Too Bad This Treasure Site Has A Political Component

[Loco-Digger]

Out of about 286 topics here on TNet you express your disdain for one. I appreciate that this site has a plethora of topics even though I basically only use about 10 of them. I do not come here for politics, I keep that on Facebrook.

 

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[Eastender]

Well Eastender, you don't have to look at forums you don't care for. Drop your charter membership and you won't see the political forum at all. I never agreed with a whole lot in that forum, but fun to argue with the ones who were internet 10 foot tall and bulletproof, but I have nothing to do with it. However, I support that forum being here, and the right of those guys to say what they believe. (No financial support) Mom told me never argue politics or religion with anybody, and she w

And just completely ignoring the political, Eastender, have you ever been down checking out the 4 Corners area?

I will argue with anyone except a madman, lest I become one.

My time out west as an archaeologist was spent in the high Mojave from Barstow to Death Valley, year-round conditions. But I did travel thru New Mexico, Arizona, and S. Cal. Not only impressive historical remains, but wildlife and plant life too. I saw many impressive snakes, especially the Mojave Green rattlesnake.

Intense things going on in that region from geology, UFO activity, to skin walkers. How about you? Have you spent time there?

 

[pepperj]

I appreciate the interest and it is mutual. I have a graduate-level background in Natural & Cultural Resources Management and worked professionally as a field archaeologist in the Mojave Desert of Southern CA. Started by picking arrowheads in the cornfields of western NY State where I grew up. By the time I was 25 I lived and conducted field research (both environmental and archaeological) for several years combined on the big Island of Hawaii, East Africa (Kenya and Tanzania), India top to bottom, Central Nepal to the Tibetan Plateau , and the Golan Hts. of Israel. I am currently a Scientific Consultant to The First Nations.

When my son was 16 he played bass in a local rock band. He performed at a famous small club where he ended up gigging a half a dozen times before going off to college. I became the house photographer covered the big National acts there and have many Grammy winning and nominated acts and members of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. That was merely a self-taught hobby for me.

I enjoy metal detecting because I find very nice and valuable objects while writing local history. I study historical maps, geology, soils, and even the physics of the machine itself. Mostly, an excuse to hike and be outside. And to think I divulged all of this personal info with disclosing my party affiliation or with a political slant.

Spent a few months in India and Nepal in 1992.
Trekked in Nepal, and was in Bombay the day the decided to blow the Stock Exchange and markets up.
The whole country drips history, and for months on end I dreamed of detecting the place.

 

[jewelerguy]

I don't think you'll find any social media platform or forum where everyone is in 100% complete agreement with what's being said or posted. As the moderator stated, if you see political content posted where it shouldn't be, report it and let them take care of it. Stick with the topics you enjoy and ignore the rest.

There's probably some guy on a political forum that's unhappy because it has a treasure component.

 

[Rydog]

I read books and still read newspapers.

Great. A word of caution though: If you're only getting your news from legacy media sources, you're probably mal-informed about current events.

 

[releventchair]

Soooo.. just religion then?

Bless your lil ol heart!

 

[RGINN]

I will argue with anyone except a madman, lest I become one.

My time out west as an archaeologist was spent in the high Mojave from Barstow to Death Valley, year-round conditions. But I did travel thru New Mexico, Arizona, and S. Cal. Not only impressive historical remains, but wildlife and plant life too. I saw many impressive snakes, especially the Mojave Green rattlesnake.

Intense things going on in that region from geology, UFO activity, to skin walkers. How about you? Have you spent time there?

Every chance I get. I camp around Navajo Reservoir, Canyon of the Ancients, and Moab. Many archaeological sites in the 4 corners area, from Chaco Canyon on up to Aztec and Chimney Rock. I'm particularly interested in the rock art. You're right, the geology is amazing in that area. As far as UFO's, Skinwalkers, etc., Never encountered that. I camp a lot in the San Luis Valley, hot bed of UFO activity, never seen one there. I think those things just don''t believe in me, haha.

 

[Chilli]

Go back and read my posts. Great praise for the site. I contribute to the site, both in posts and money. If I wrote it I obviously said it. Not all members engage in political discussion. I criticized hosting political discussion here, not individuals engaged in it.

Btw, I'm on my third Minelab detector. Love them. Have friends in Australia too.

Hello.
Here in Oz, when anyone has a disagreement or argument and someone says "I have friends where you live" thats an open threat. Send them.

 

[Eastender]

Hello.
Here in Oz, when anyone has a disagreement or argument and someone says "I have friends where you live" thats an open threat. Send them.

That's not how it works here tho. Only some Italian friends give me that vibe.

How do you deal with snakes and spiders detecting down under?

 

[Eastender]

Spent a few months in India and Nepal in 1992.
Trekked in Nepal, and was in Bombay the day the decided to blow the Stock Exchange and markets up.
The whole country drips history, and for months on end I dreamed of detecting the place.

I was in India and Nepal for all of 1983. Started in the south in Bangalore in Karnataka state. Traveled Tamil Nadu top to bottom including Madras, down to the southern tip then up to Cochin and the entire Kerala coast. I traveled by second class rail as much as possible as the old coal burning trains were being phased out. Did the 2,000 km 2nd class rail from Bangalore to New Delhi. Had planned to go up to Jammu and Kashmir, but a late spring had the passes iced over. So I went east through the state of Uttar Pradesh to Nepal, stopping in Varanasi on the Ganges for two weeks then onto the places where the Buddha was born and achieved enlightenment (Bodh Gaya and Lumbini). In Nepal I was based in Pohkara and did two solo treks around the Annapurna Range, one of those during the monsoon season, which was kinda nuts.

Trip of a lifetime and I can't imagine the amount of gold coinage a metal detector would sweep up.

 

[Eastender]

Every chance I get. I camp around Navajo Reservoir, Canyon of the Ancients, and Moab. Many archaeological sites in the 4 corners area, from Chaco Canyon on up to Aztec and Chimney Rock. I'm particularly interested in the rock art. You're right, the geology is amazing in that area. As far as UFO's, Skinwalkers, etc., Never encountered that. I camp a lot in the San Luis Valley, hot bed of UFO activity, never seen one there. I think those things just don''t believe in me, haha.

I see you hail from CO. For all of my traveling during my youth, I regret that I did not explore the state. The closest I came was up on Wheeler Peak, NM. Looking up the spine of mountains into CO was enchanting. I packed the Grand Canyon twice, but only from the southern approaches.

Have you seen many pictographs? I always imagined that a lot of the S. Cal. rock art I saw had at one time a colorful pigmented layer. Seeing all of the dry lakes and stream beds does make you realize how the SW at one time had a lot of water resources. It's mind-blowing to see artifacts in the several thousands of years old just lying on the desert floor. Or seeing a pot drop on the old shoreline of a dry lake bed. Miss the obsidian points.

I think I saw a skinwalker at my local grocery store tonight. Didn't dare look twice.

 

[RGINN]

To explain, pictographs are painted, petroglyphs are pecked into the rock. Not as many pictographs Eastender. However, Sego Canyon in Utah has an outstanding display. They show those on that Ancient Aliens tv show. I have seen some petroglyphs that have had paint applied. I can show you some in Utah that are actually a directional map to a village site. I also believe that the kokopelli glyphs I see really just mean a trader passes through here. Might be wrong. And yeah you need to come check out Colorado someday. San Luis valley maybe.

 

[pepperj]

Great. A word of caution though: If you're only getting your news from legacy media sources, you're probably mal-informed about current events.

Books not so,

I was in India and Nepal for all of 1983. Started in the south in Bangalore in Karnataka state. Traveled Tamil Nadu top to bottom including Madras, down to the southern tip then up to Cochin and the entire Kerala coast. I traveled by second class rail as much as possible as the old coal burning trains were being phased out. Did the 2,000 km 2nd class rail from Bangalore to New Delhi. Had planned to go up to Jammu and Kashmir, but a late spring had the passes iced over. So I went east through the state of Uttar Pradesh to Nepal, stopping in Varanasi on the Ganges for two weeks then onto the places where the Buddha was born and achieved enlightenment (Bodh Gaya and Lumbini). In Nepal I was based in Pohkara and did two solo treks around the Annapurna Range, one of those during the monsoon season, which was kinda nuts.

Trip of a lifetime and I can't imagine the amount of gold coinage a metal detector would sweep up.

Varanasi was amazing with the different ghats. Especially the cremation ghat. Just read that 28,000 cremation happen every year.
We were trekking out of Pohkara in Late March going around the Annapurna range. We had to turn back because of an avalanche, so we did the backside of the Annapurna range.
All 2nd class or lower type traveling is the best to experience life.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

If you don’t window peek at your neighbor’s home, you won’t see what disgusts you.

That's what I told my next door neighbor, but she didn't listen. Hasn't spoken to me in many years...

 

[sprailroad]

I appreciate the interest and it is mutual. I have a graduate-level background in Natural & Cultural Resources Management and worked professionally as a field archaeologist in the Mojave Desert of Southern CA. Started by picking arrowheads in the cornfields of western NY State where I grew up. By the time I was 25 I lived and conducted field research (both environmental and archaeological) for several years combined on the big Island of Hawaii, East Africa (Kenya and Tanzania), India top to bottom, Central Nepal to the Tibetan Plateau , and the Golan Hts. of Israel. I am currently a Scientific Consultant to The First Nations.

When my son was 16 he played bass in a local rock band. He performed at a famous small club where he ended up gigging a half a dozen times before going off to college. I became the house photographer covered the big National acts there and have many Grammy winning and nominated acts and members of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. That was merely a self-taught hobby for me.

I enjoy metal detecting because I find very nice and valuable objects while writing local history. I study historical maps, geology, soils, and even the physics of the machine itself. Mostly, an excuse to hike and be outside. And to think I divulged all of this personal info with disclosing my party affiliation or with a political slant.

Well...I retired from the Railroad?

 

[sprailroad]

I will argue with anyone except a madman, lest I become one.

My time out west as an archaeologist was spent in the high Mojave from Barstow to Death Valley, year-round conditions. But I did travel thru New Mexico, Arizona, and S. Cal. Not only impressive historical remains, but wildlife and plant life too. I saw many impressive snakes, especially the Mojave Green rattlesnake.

Intense things going on in that region from geology, UFO activity, to skin walkers. How about you? Have you spent time there?

All those places and more, if there was track, I worked it, year round conditions as well, (they never brought the tracks indoors to work on). Mojave Greens?, I I remember them well, when laying rail or pulling ties, "watch your step". Seemed like everything in the American Southwest deserts, would either stick, sting or bite you. No politics out there, I tell you what!

 

[djackson7348]

I appreciate having a place to voice my opinion without it being censored and/or shadow banned.

 

[Eastender]

All those places and more, if there was track, I worked it, year round conditions as well, (they never brought the tracks indoors to work on). Mojave Greens?, I I remember them well, when laying rail or pulling ties, "watch your step". Seemed like everything in the American Southwest deserts, would either stick, sting or bite you. No politics out there, I tell you what!

You live in gold country and that must be exciting. I love railroads. Aside from traveling much of India by 2nd class rail back in 1983, I took one of the last runs of the Canadian from Toronto to Vancouver and back in 1989 with stops in Thunder Bay and Banff. When I was young during the 1960's, I had two great uncles who were retired engineers from opposing lines. One the Erie, the other, the Pennsylvania. They didn't get along well. They were old and riding in automobiles they were driving was pretty terrifying. They used their horns at intersections.

Metal detecting got me into buttons. Aside from finding plenty of colonial buttons, I started buying vintage railroad buttons. I stopped because it was getting out of hand and I have over 500 of them. My prize is a fine pre and Civil War-Era NY & Erie Railroad Conductor which is attached here. I especially like the early NY City and Long Island lines, the above street metros. I may be the only person who has the complete button set of the Long Island Railroad with many duplicates. I frequently read about railroad history.

 

[Eastender]

I probably should not have started this thread. Over five years ago I left all forms of social media to avoid political discussion. This site is my only form of social media and I felt as though it was a sanctuary. I went over and visited the political forum here and it didn't do anything for me, but I now realize some people want it. I've quickly reached a point of not giving a damn either way. Still seems like reverse logic to me, to become a Charter Member and receive access to the political discussion. I think it should be the other way around, like paying Amazon Prime to get out of commercials. Political discussions are dangerous because some people are ready and willing to cross over to violence to back their viewpoints. Treasure discussions don't require moderation and carburation. Sometimes brand loyalty runs hot, but rarely fisticuffs or worse.

I will be 65 in a couple of months and am fighting off the possibility of becoming a grouchy old man with potential bouts of foul-mouthed TS. During the mid-1980's I entered the computer age by buying 8086 then 8088 based computers. The blue and black screens with a DOS prompt. When I traveled the world as student 1978-85, I lugged around a manual typewriter. It was my carry-on luggage. Moving up through the 286, 386, 486, then clock-doubled computers running Dos 5 with a shell and then Windows; I reflect that we have come along way in a short time. Then came the tether with CompuServe and AOL. I can see both benefits and drawbacks with the technology. It is Pandora's box.

Ten months ago I was taken to a hospital by ambulance with a case of septicemia that the Dr's said put me within a day of my life. After a week in there I have been good to go, but can't help but feel that I am living in the bonus round. So if people threaten me, all I can do is shrug my shoulders and say we are all headed in that direction anyway. I would feel better about not saving more for retirement.

When I was 23 and a hot-head studying political science among other things, I visited an Ashram in Southern India. I met so many old men smiling and at peace with themselves. I tried to discuss world politics and they would not have anything to do with it. It agitated me. I was thinking "why don't you get off your yogistic a**es and do something about the problems around us?" 40 years later, Grasshopper now understands.

In 2013 Lou Reed died just down the road from me where he had a house. I used to run into him at my favorite local deli. I'm reminded of one of his quotes. When he was asked: "Are you political, Lou?" He replied: "Political about what? Give me an issue, and I'll give you a tissue, then you can wipe my a** with it." I can appreciate the cynicism.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

I left Facebroke 6 years ago to escape political commentary. I won't ever be joining what Facebroke has metastasized into, META. This site is the only social media I am part of. I'm nearly 65. I read books and still read newspapers. Haven't listened to a single podcast. I don't talk to imaginary assistants on my phone. I wish I could avoid artificial intelligence, whatever the hell that is.

This is a Treasure hunting site. When I'm out metal detecting in the woods, politics is far from my mind. Often, people in general are too. Well, I sometimes think about loyalists and revolutionaries, depressions and recessions, and how they relate to what I am finding in the ground. When I entered the hobby I bought American, a top of the line White's. Wish they would have modernized and stayed in the game.

I don't read the political sections here. In a nearly equally divided country, it's only bound to irritate. I sometimes think of leaving this site and searching for a purist treasure hunting site.

I didn’t see anything about a treasure site. What did you find?

(Maybe you just brought political discussion here?)