The Treasure of Captain William Kidd.

[ISmellGold]

That's true. 327 years is a long time. But we'll never know if we don't look, right?
I need to plan my trip as well. Best of luck to you ISmellGold.

"May fortune favor the foolish"

If I lived in Greenwich, I would probably keep a sharp eye for anything unusual found.
Just snap a few pictures before you spend it.


Good Luck

 

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[Bocaj]

I agree why would you have a mirror with a skull and cross bones on it?

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Crow

I beg to differ! We tend to evaluate everything with our Hollywood trained and brainwashed brains.

The skull and bones only got exclusively associated with piracy much later. It is a symbol religious sects and especially Templar and Masons where using, in fact the black flag comes from the Templar fleet's battle flag. To find the symbol in some furniture in the 17th century doesn't really mean that much. In that time it would not have been strongly associated with piracy.

 

[Randawg72]

You are correct Bocaj,
As I noted, the skull and crossbones were most likely carved by later owners of the artifacts. Before 1700, pirates flew a plain black flag with/or without a red flag. The "Jolly Roger" pirate flag did not appear until the early 18th century.
Captain Kidd was a Privateer so the primary flag he flew was the "Red Ensign". Kidd also carried flags of rival nations, so when he approached a ship flying French colors, he flew a French Merchant flag.

 

[AstralDruid]

How come i never seen this section of Tnet before..... Brilliant stuff...
I have an old friend, a diving instructor in the med..... he claims to have a pretty good idea of where Rommel's gold is..WW2 loot.... A bit off topic , sorry, just got excited when i seen these threads ....

 

[Bocaj]

You are correct Bocaj,
As I noted, the skull and crossbones were most likely carved by later owners of the artifacts. Before 1700, pirates flew a plain black flag with/or without a red flag. The "Jolly Roger" pirate flag did not appear until the early 18th century.
Captain Kidd was a Privateer so the primary flag he flew was the "Red Ensign". Kidd also carried flags of rival nations, so when he approached a ship flying French colors, he flew a French Merchant flag.

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I wouldn't be so sure it was carved in later but was original made like that. Robert Livingston was the patriarch of founding grand-master of free masons in the New world (New York). And by chance the sponsor together with New York's governor Bellomont (see attached contract)

Both became embarrassed by Kidd's capture of the QM. I personally think there was more to that story. My guess (after a long research) is that he was send to bring Avery's huge treasure to New England and that he found and re-buried it somewhere else after he was a burned man because his crew forced him to take the QM. What a tragedy: he could hardly tell them that the haul he was after was so much more worth!