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ARC said:
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Danged cold and windy and still wet! Weekend forecast looks great.

Gaining though.
Need to get busy cutting up a deer. Weather has been near perfect for aging such.
And plow truck should be done at the repair shop today.
Need to take a long ride to the county seat. Not sure when to do that...

It gets half dry and lots of leaves await clean up.
A tractor still needs fresh oil and filter and snowblower mounted. After the mowing deck and front end loader are removed and blades sharpened for spring.

Made a contact the other day that will allow asking about an abandoned home across from thier farm.
Caught my eye a couple years ago.
 

JVA5th said:
Most of the prime areas are owned by those whom graze cattle and they own large swaths of land. They do not let anyone on those lands due to fear of being sued and all those liabilities. You have to know people which I just don't
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Breakfast joints often have a table of local farmers around here. Less as time has gone by.
Feed mill has traffic too. And both often bulletin boards.

Cattle get magnets forced into thier bellies.
To collect the scraps of metal that seem to magically appear where they graze.
How much metal can one hold before the host suffers?
There is but one angle you have. And a reasonable manager recognizes the fact that less metal scraps = less problems.

A prized horse (well any horse in my opinion) stepping on a sharp piece of metal and jamming it in along it's frog is a bad thing.
Let alone getting snagged on a piece of barbed wire. Been there!!!

What you can offer outweighs fears of liability unless someone deliberately creates a hazard for you.

Dig in. Study your states trespass laws regarding hunting.
Yes permission is required. But in deer hunting for example , is the landowner liable (unless deliberately creating a hazard like digging a deep trench across a trail and sending a guest down it at high speed ect. ) for thier guests?
Here in Michigan liability for landowners allowing hunters is pretty much waived. And that is without guests signing waivers!

And nothing says you couldn't barter for your service. (Money would be an issue being Cali, l.o.l..!)

I have not qualms about charging a cup of coffee.

A veterinarian that services livestock on ranches might look at you funny for asking if they have any clients with unusual numbers of foot injuries. Ans thier cliants deserve privacy.
But the vet could take your info for referring your service. Including recovering non scrap type lost items.

You just need to get a foot in the door and provide a positive experience for the right landowners to get a reputation. And more , referrals.

(Attitude. )
Benefit from my interests.
A cup of coffee is doable.
And i'm (JVA) no stranger to being "in the field" or livestock.
Gates will be left as found.
Ill or unusual behavior in an animal or something will be reported. As will predators.
Trash uncovered will be removed. Or if too big marked by location and reported.

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releventchair said:
Breakfast joints often have a table of local farmers around here. Less as time has gone by.
Feed mill has traffic too. And both often bulletin boards.

Cattle get magnets forced into thier bellies.
To collect the scraps of metal that seem to magically appear where they graze.
How much metal can one hold before the host suffers?
There is but one angle you have. And a reasonable manager recognizes the fact that less metal scraps = less problems.

A prized horse (well any horse in my opinion) stepping on a sharp piece of metal and jamming it in along it's frog is a bad thing.
Let alone getting snagged on a piece of barbed wire. Been there!!!

What you can offer outweighs fears of liability unless someone deliberately creates a hazard for you.

Dig in. Study your states trespass laws regarding hunting.
Yes permission is required. But in deer hunting for example , is the landowner liable (unless deliberately creating a hazard like digging a deep trench across a trail and sending a guest down it at high speed ect. ) for thier guests?
Here in Michigan liability for landowners allowing hunters is pretty much waived. And that is without guests signing waivers!

And nothing says you couldn't barter for your service. (Money would be an issue being Cali, l.o.l..!)

I have not qualms about charging a cup of coffee.

A veterinarian that services livestock on ranches might look at you funny for asking if they have any clients with unusual numbers of foot injuries. Ans thier cliants deserve privacy.
But the vet could take your info for referring your service. Including recovering non scrap type lost items.

You just need to get a foot in the door and provide a positive experience for the right landowners to get a reputation. And more , referrals.

(Attitude. )
Benefit from my interests.
A cup of coffee is doable.
And i'm (JVA) no stranger to being "in the field" or livestock.
Gates will be left as found.
Ill or unusual behavior in an animal or something will be reported. As will predators.
Trash uncovered will be removed. Or if too big marked by location and reported.

.
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Around here it's just orchards and fields they don't mind too much but areas that had activity in the past are sparse. I have food reputation here. Most people here greatly appreciate me as I always walk and take extra crops to my neighbors I enjoy making people happy and keeping good community. In one permission I purposely dig stuff I know will be junk iron for the guy so it doesn't mess up his machinery. But grazing lands to get permission those guys often don't let anyone on their land. California is sue crazy so they are skittish about it.
 

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JVA5th said:
Around here it's just orchards and fields they don't mind too much but areas that had activity in the past are sparse. I have food reputation here. Most people here greatly appreciate me as I always walk and take extra crops to my neighbors I enjoy making people happy and keeping good community. In one permission I purposely dig stuff I know will be junk iron for the guy so it doesn't mess up his machinery. But grazing lands to get permission those guys often don't let anyone on their land. California is sue crazy so they are skittish about it.
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Well , you're skittish too!
Ya'll oughta get along just fine.

Landowner rights go deep. For varied reasons. Some not even recalled anymore but simply inherently ingrained.
And as a guest , those rights( real or perceived) need respected.
Yes it's better to just keep folks off.
That does not mean no one ever is contacted to be on!
Meet them online. Or on a bulletin board. Or by referral. Or casual conversation on the street.
Put on your detecting hat and attitude first. Not your nailbiting hat.
 

releventchair said:
Well , you're skittish too!
Ya'll oughta get along just fine.

Landowner rights go deep. For varied reasons. Some not even recalled anymore but simply inherently ingrained.
And as a guest , those rights( real or perceived) need respected.
Yes it's better to just keep folks off.
That does not mean no one ever is contacted to be on!
Meet them online. Or on a bulletin board. Or by referral. Or casual conversation on the street.
Put on your detecting hat and attitude first. Not your nailbiting hat.
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I have a permission I could gain. My neighbors sister owns property that houses on of California's famous gold mines. I need to work at that as that one is a good opportunity
 

JVA5th said:
I have a permission I could gain. My neighbors sister owns property that houses on of California's famous gold mines. I need to work at that as that one is a good opportunity
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Well get the Hell out & pan !:goldpan::goldpan::goldpan::goldpan::icon_thumright::headbang:
 

Years ago I asked for a permission. I was granted to hunt their farm.
Was finding alum.wire and the son grumbling about this and that I probably saved a cow.
His father did some dividing up the barn.
Cows broke the wire. Wire went into the manure, then into the fields.
The one I showed him was right on the stalk of corn, into the root ball.
Harvester just missed it.
I drop the name of this farmer when seeking other permissions.
"They allowed you to dig on their property?"
No problem
"Geez they have an issue if you turn around using the end of the driveway "
It's opened many doors since then.
Word in the farming telegraph travels quick.
 

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