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[pepperj]

Mornin all hope it’s a great one for everyone

Morning Steve
Hope you have great one as well.

 

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[Zakon Krzyżacki]

perhaps they are one in the same... or on a date... or made off with the rum.

It took you this long ? 😂

 

[Zakon Krzyżacki]

Good morning all.

 

[pepperj]

Good morning all.

Morning Mike

 

[Zakon Krzyżacki]

I destroyed my left eye.
Was looking at a coin through a 16x loupe a couple of years ago outside on a cloudy day.
Sun just happened to pop out and at the perfect angle and directed sunlight off a Mint fresh cent..not penny! Cent!!!
Anyways, two years later the left eye is now completely blurry.
My Viking is making me a pirate eye patch to cover it.
Right eye is perfect.

 

[Zakon Krzyżacki]

Morning Mike

Good morning Pepper.

 

[Zakon Krzyżacki]

Is there any secrets to know about renting heavy equipment ?
I know you gotta take note of every tiny scratch, ding etc. When renting a car, but I am thinking about renting a very large loader.
To push logs and push out stumps.
A dozer would be better, but alas they don't own one.

 

[releventchair]

Is there any secrets to know about renting heavy equipment ?
I know you gotta take note of every tiny scratch, ding etc. When renting a car, but I am thinking about renting a very large loader.
To push logs and push out stumps.
A dozer would be better, but alas they don't own one.

A safety study might be the best secret. How not to tip or wheelie. Unlevel ground ect.. With much torque comes much risk. The great transfer of energy can twist something over by it's gearing in less than a second. (And roll bars and cages are not the answer.)

Friends house burned,
He really tore up a set of loader tires in the remains and expected to get charged for the damage. He wasn't charged for it.
I'd certainly expect such though...

Anything pulled or pushed needs to be below "hitch" level. So not to create tipping leverage of equipment. (Per me and tractors.)
That can mean attaching to the front of equipment , running cable /rope/chain under the belly and out the back to pull. With risk if not routed right of causing damage.
And weighting a chain/pulling medium with a tire or similar can rob some energy if it comes loose instead of whipping through the air like a giant sword.

Stumps left high , 4-5 foot , allow leverage by pulling at thier tops. However , heed the hitch point to equipment rule mentioned....

A huge wooden mallet with a six foot handle 12-14 inches in diameter of hardwood and three foot diameter head can be built. Handle up against a short stump and chain around stump(preferably under off side roots) and handle at head ;another chain can be attached to top of handle to pull. (per a diagram describing such years ago. I just dig around stump cutting roots to weaken them on big ones).

I don't like straining equipment though. For safeties sake , and the equipment's.
Stumps can be worried by digging and cutting roots till like a loose tooth.
Even then , some like white pine can have a serious tap root straight below them. Been chest deep on a giant before. No , I don't recommend being in a hole that deep anymore , even with shoring.

If your rental has down pressure on the loader (it should) you might be able to dig an offside from the direction you want stump to tip before testing it with a push.

A backhoe can pop a stump better than a loader on bigger ones.
Weaken the stumps grip by undercutting some of it's feet on big ones. Then lift from the backside.
Breakout force of backhoe is X amount. (a loader's too)Exceed that and you'll know from the hydraulics complaint , and the equipment tilting.

 

[releventchair]

Mornin all.

 

[pepperj]

Most of the heavy equipment rental companies will have a insurance policy rental forums as well.
These cover the basics as theft, mechanical breakdown, but not for operator error.
They might ding you for decal scratching even.
But they expect the usual wear and tear of equipment, and it's pretty hard to dint steel.

I rented a 5.5ton excavator for a month, 2-24" buckets (flat edge-tooth edge) The unit had a thumb attachment as well.
1-5 day rental full charge
7 day rental a person gets a 1-2 day free
1-3 week no reduced price
4 week rental a person gets a free week

Insurance $15-20per day on a longer rental
extra bucket $2-3 a day extra on a long rental
Delivery/pick-up of equipment
Taxes on everything mentioned above
(Need to have fuel topped up for the return)
I went through $8.50 an hour

For tree removal the unit will dig out stumps. But you'll have to excavate some of the root system away first. It's amazing how well a 12" stump can be rooted in even after a decade. Even a 6" stump will make the unit work.
For a 18-24" stump the hole excavated is quite large, then moving the stump root ball is another issue.
Many slams, drops, will separate the dirt off, but it still weighs as lots.
Moving them I had to thumb them against the blade-lift the blade to get them off the ground to walk them away.
The weight still was enough to feel the excavator tippy when going down a grade.


From taking out tree/stumps it's actually better to have the tree attached for the smaller 8" as they can be pushed over using leverage.

 

[pepperj]

Morning RC
Good write up explaining the removal, I agree some backhoes are better/stronger than the excavators.

 

[Zakon Krzyżacki]

Thanks Pepper and RC.
Much of what you said I didn't even consider.
I really appreciate it.
My ground is very uneven.
Like ski moguls ?
I think that's the term.
I am probably biting off more than I can chew.
The west side of my property is swamp and peat bog.
I know if I sink a machine, that's $$$!

I think I will just do what I was going to do originally and barter logs/wood for someone else with their machine do the job.
I just gotta make sure that whomever is insured.

 

[releventchair]

Thanks Pepper and RC.
Much of what you said I didn't even consider.
I really appreciate it.
My ground is very uneven.
Like ski moguls ?
I think that's the term.
I am probably biting off more than I can chew.
The west side of my property is swamp and peat bog.
I know if I sink a machine, that's $$$!

I think I will just do what I was going to do originally and barter logs/wood for someone else with their machine do the job.
I just gotta make sure that whomever is insured.

Coldest part of winter and tires or tracks that distribute weight the most might get you into the bog. Organic decomposition might not let you out though!
Swamps vary.
Depending on classification (wetland or not) you can build up a road into swamp too. Drainage of fit and through it in spots might be paramount.

Skidding sections of logs will let you reach in with rope or chain or cable if careful. Stumps in swamp or bog I'd leave. IF they resprout there's ways to kill them , but why?

You could stay busy on a Cub.
One is going at auction in White Cloud on the 4th of next month. A 1950 per add.
year four of production. Probably still 6 volt positive ground. Fine if cared for.
Likely still magneto ignition so should start with a handcrank if well tuned.
Turf tires and mower deck on it.
Underslung exhaust . (Nice not to be huffing it out of a hood stack).
Parts to a plow/grader blade and some cultivator parts there. Not sure if complete.
Turf tires don't have chains on them. But chains added would be good for pushing snow. With some folks liking turf tires better than others for chains.
Front tires not stock. Seat not stock. No wheel weights. Missing battery box lid , no surprise. No guard on p.t.o. pulley. Another no surprise.
Dog legs for hood look secure. Often broke loose on abused tractors.
I should probably quit looking at pictures of it.

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Do the dry ground first on your place.
Trees jackstrawed down in the swamp / bog will just make good deer and bear habitat.

 

[JVA5th]

Great morning everyone, hope you all have a wonderful day and everyone is doing well

 

[releventchair]

Great morning everyone, hope you all have a wonderful day and everyone is doing well

JVA!

Have a great one!

 

[JVA5th]

JVA!

Have a great one!

Trying to and same to you. Got a full trailer full of junk loaded up ready to be taken out of here. Being in the in between of moving is interesting. Still probably a few months till being able to get to move into the new place yet still constantly having stuff to do to get ready.

 

[releventchair]

Trying to and same to you. Got a full trailer full of junk loaded up ready to be taken out of here. Being in the in between of moving is interesting. Still probably a few months till being able to get to move into the new place yet still constantly having stuff to do to get ready.

Some experiences are hard to measure till long over.
Like what was the worst part? Or best...

Keep at it. Those in betweens come along now and then.
A few of us used to like hearing "the house rent blues".
There was good reason! L.o.l..

 

[releventchair]

And just in case you hold a guitar later...
Or you can just crank it up!
Not that I ever have. Several times...

 

[Oregon Viking]

If You see Kay... Tell her I love her......

 

[Oregon Viking]

And just in case you hold a guitar later...
Or you can just crank it up!
Not that I ever have. Several times...

Hold... A guitar? Well, I make them sing!
Not this one no strings ya see... cleaning time!