The Peralta Stones

[somehiker]

Indeed Mike.That is what does make sense to me,generally.
Let us not forget the Perficio Map (stone version).
And the Stone Crosses as well.
The "Master Map"...not sure about that one

SH.

 

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[somehiker]

A view of the approximate points where holes were found.
The squares indicate the two deepest,straight sided excavations.
SH.

 

[Oroblanco]

My esteemed colleague Don Jose la Suerte, el Tropical Tramp wrote

for the land grab, the land grab.

I must respectfully disagree with this theory compadre, on three grounds. Firstly, Baron Reavis surely would have thought to include the name "PERALTA" on the stones, somewhere, yet there is no Peralta anywhere on them. Without the Peralta name on them, how could they help his land claim case? The explanation that a stud horse means Peralta, as proposed by one of our amigos here, is not supported by evidence, nor is the horse depiction clearly even a male horse. It could well be a mare, or a gelding! Secondly, as we have discussed earlier, if Reavis had these made, why didn't he produce them for his court hearings? He never even mentioned stone maps. Third, the maps don't seem to show property boundaries, which would be necessary for his fraudulent land claim.

We could likewise raise issue with the style of the engraving - Reavis was an accomplished forger, and was able to readily duplicate the rather fancy (beautiful IMHO) calligraphy type writing done by Spanish of the time period. Look at the inscriptions on the Peralta Stones - does it look like early Spanish writing? If this is the work of Reavis, it is his poorest effort at duplicating the ancient Spanish writing style in my view. Then there is the point about the date - why would he bother to include a date of 1847, which was some time after the date of his fake land grant, when it would have been wise for him to use a date closer to the dates he forged on the documents in Spain and Mexico.

I agree that this theory (Peralta Stone Maps - made by Reavis the "Baron of Arizona" to support his fraud land grant claim) is an attractive one and would explain their existence, but there are too many problems with it in my opinion.

Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek; please do continue gentlemen.
Oroblanco

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Gentlemen: Hm the odds are 4:1, good I like the challenge.

A) Gollum, the major flaw that I see is that the paper (?) maps that would lead you to the stone maps are just as fragile as if the stone maps had been made of paper also.

B) Reavis:

1) as previously mentioned on the other site regarding this, is that he had an accomplice hide them, but the idiot hid them in an open area with no prominent marks, so they were never found in time for his case. Later, why look for them?

2) Peralta would have been interesting, but a bit too obvious. I have no doubt that he had the proper forged documents from Peralta describing the stones ready, but since the stones were not found in time, they were simply discarded or destroyed.

3) Style of engraving. just how educated would the engraver have been in those days when only the aristocrats received much formal education. So if they were engraved in the typical style as on the other documents it would have been too suspicious.

4) There also exists the possibility that he could produce forged papers showing that Peralta had found an older map describing them and their location, but not in enough detail to actually do so in Peraltas time. thus re enforcing his claim.

5) The 1847 date, hmmm, I will think of something, he he h e.

C) How did they form the heart? Did they actually excise the heart intact, or did they simply cut the orig. heart in pieces then cut another to fit?

Next.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Springfield]

Okay,

For those of you who wonder why ANYONE would make a set of stone maps instead of using skin or parchment, here you go:

Lets say you don't go into the same area every year. Maybe every 5 or 8 years. Your country in Northern Mexico is in constant upheaval. Fighting the Spanish. Civil War. Fighting with the Texicans. Parchment or skin maps can be burned, eaten by rats, erased by water, and destroyed any other number of ways. It can also be stolen by any number of bad guys.

Instead of making maps that lead all the way to your mines/treasures, you make maps that lead you to an area outside the mountain range that is your destination. Once there, your paper maps will guide you to the stone maps that are made in sections and hidden. Once you dig up and piece together all the stones, you copy those over to paper and rebury the stones. The only thing you have to worry about is someone getting the first set of maps leading from the Real to the edge of the range. Even if they do get those, they have no guarantee of finding the stone maps (that extra layer of security seems good to me), therefore your mines/treasures are still safe.

Best-Mike

It's a fine rationalization you've presented, Mike, even though it's illogical to me.

If you've made paper (leather) maps that lead to the stone maps, then you presumably already know the secrets on the stones. If so, why take the trouble of creating and burying/unburying stone maps? OK, let's assume the stone maps were created for a later generation which doesn't yet know the secrets inscribed on them (big stretch for me).

If the paper (leather) maps leading to the stones are lost or destroyed, or the stones cannot be relocated, then all is lost because the secrets have themselves become lost. If the paper (leather) maps are stolen, then the thieves can retrieve the stone maps and use the information on them for themselves, if they can find the stones, that is. If that same secret information was on the paper (leather) maps in the first place, the only extra security you've provided against theft with the stone maps is more time needed to go dig them up. I imagine the thieves would have had plenty of patience and time would not be a factor.

Of course, I suppose the arguement could be made that the stone maps were indeed lost by the Peraltas along with the secrets on them and that's why the mines remain hidden to this day. Maybe the 'extra layer of security' you've attributed to the Peraltas backfired on them. Over all, however, it seems to me anyone capable of locating, exploiting and hiding these alleged rich mines would not take the chance of documenting the secrets on a few rocks buried somewhere in the desert. Things buried in the ground seem to be very difficult to relocate, even if you have a map.

Regarding the 'Peralta Stones' aspect of the Superstition Mountains lore, I vote: clever recent FRAUD. Good legend, lots of afficionados, ripe ground for a good hoax. Not that the subject isn't fun to talk about - this forum proves that it is.

 

[somehiker]

Mornin RT:
"Hm the odds are 4:1, good I like the challenge"
Ah,those famous last words of William Wallace.

I will leave A) to Gollum as I have already mentioned some of the more durable materials known to have been used for maps in the past.

B-1...JA Reavis,by all accounts was highly intelligent.His scheme was very well planned and almost successful.Why would he choose such an incompetent accomplice? There are more than enough prominent landmarks that could have been used to identify the precise spot.

B-2...Obvious is what Reavis needed to win.The courts do not like ambiguous.
What do YOU see on the stones that identifies them as good evidence for the legitimacy of a land claim.
I don't believe his claims of Peralta mineral exploration and mining was the issue on which the case hinged.
It was the validity of the grant documents that were questioned.

B-3...Official documents are created by government officials and lawyers,not by stone masons.
Documents that appear official are created by artistic con men.
A stone map can be made by anyone who has the tools at hand,the ability to use them,a drawing to follow and a need to do so.
Oh yea,and a piece of appropriate stone.

B-4....see B-1/2

B-5... I'll wait and see what you have to say.

C)...The heart was hand formed (chipped) from a piece of iron rich slate.There is a large outcropping of identical slate at the base of what I believe is the Priest.
Both trail map stones are from the same type of fine grained buff coloured stone,usually called by the generic sandstone.
The cavity was obviously cut to fit the heart stone or vice versa.

Regards:SH.

 

[somehiker]

A photo of the stones currently at the SMM that illustrates the three types of stone used.

SH.

 

[somehiker]

A piece of heart stone from the base of the Priest.
The tilted slate outcropping is in the background.

SH.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Guten Abend Herr SH: Well we are talking about a Dutchman / German no?

ON A) ok

on B1) you posted --> B-1...JA Reavis,by all accounts was highly intelligent.His scheme was very well planned and almost successful.Why would he choose such an incompetent accomplice? There are more than enough prominent landmarks that could have been used to identify the precise spot.
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He wouldn't be the first to pick an idiot or one that was completely unfamilar with the Desert and the dificulty of returning to a certain spot without a prominent land mark. Even today we have people lost inthe supers. Many of my treasure hunts involve looking for something that was just over there when it was buried. Then again, many times our minds play tricks on us.

As an example, I found the collapsed portal of Las Pimas mine, one of the 7 in the so called Golden Triangle. The basic portal was still intact, but the room that they had opened just beyond it had collapsed. It was very close to the surface on top of the Barranca. Very easy to see. Yet when I later returned, I couldn't find it in two days. A few years later I returned with a friend and it was soo prominent and visible right where it was supposed to be, that I felt like a fool. (hush Oro this is a serious post). So to an untrained clerk in those days, what appeared to be obvious, was not.
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B2) You posted -->What do YOU see on the stones that identifies them as good evidence for the legitimacy of a land claim
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As supporting documents, not as the main land claim factor. By porducing a forged document showing where the stones were buried, then following up that document and -- "Lo and behold, the document WAS right, so the Peraltas had to have been here".
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B-3) You posted -->Official documents are created by government officials and lawyers,not by stone masons
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Most of the time, most of the time.
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B-4....see B-1/2 Agreed
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B-5... I'll wait and see what you have to say.
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Me too.
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C)... You posted-->The cavity was obviously cut to fit the heart stone or vice versa.
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Cut to fit obviously. And of a different piece of stone since the Heart has minor faults that are missing from the prime stone
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You posted -->Regards:SH
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Saludos mi amigo

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[somehiker]

Nah RT.....William Wallace was hung,drawn and QUARTERED.
A rather novel approach to dealing with disagreeable and troublesome folks,back in the good old days of my ancestors.
1:4 was usually the result,with the departing protagonist leaving in four directions simultaneously.

If Reavis had created the stones in order to bolster his claim.....
Why did he make them so complex when something with less detail would have sufficed?
Why did he make multiple stones,each being only part of the map? Then bury them all in the same place?
What would he have done if the court had required that he prove that the maps lead to somewhere within the grant area?
Do you think that the solution was in the phony documents that described the stones?
Having gone to all this trouble,of making a set of stone maps and forging documents to describe them,why did he not just make another set and have someone responsible,with a good memory,bury them where his forged documents said they would be found?
With all the time he spent preparing his case,I doub't that he would have left something so important until it was too late.

Do I hear horses?

Regards:SH.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

guten afternoon SH:

You posted "Do I hear horses"? Yep, the 4 horses of the Apocalypse. coming for you!

You also posted --> Why did he make them so complex when something with less detail would have sufficed?
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Cause he was a complicated man ! (how-n-el would I know, I am only the devils advocate)
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You posted -->Why did he make multiple stones,each being only part of the map? Then bury them all in the same place?With all the time he spent preparing his case,I doub't that he would have left something so important until it was too late.


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You bring up an interesting point. Was the first stone the original and only one, the others being made after to bolster the first story? Then again, by burying them in different spots in the same area,the chances of recovering them was far greater.
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You posted -->What would he have done if the court had required that he prove that the maps lead to somewhere within the grant area?
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Why would he have to do that? All that he had to do was to find them with one of Peraltas documents. HE, wasn't a common treasure hunter like me.
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You posted -->Having gone to all this trouble,of making a set of stone maps and forging documents to describe them,why did he not just make another set and have someone responsible,with a good memory,bury them where his forged documents said they would be found?
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Time factor, when he couldn't find them the proceedings had already started, bad, bad.
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You posted -->With all the time he spent preparing his case,I doubt that he would have left something so important until it was too late.
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I have many times, and I AM A GENIUS !!! snicker

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. Join Oro, me and the others?

 

[somehiker]

RT......
Join ya where?


Hi Springfield:
It is my opinion that anyone that dismisses the Stone Maps as fake is missing out on a challenge equal to or greater than that tackled by Mel Fisher in finding the Atocha.What follows is also my opinion,based on my own research and fieldwork out there.Take it as you wish.

Whoever designed these stones,including the Latin Heart Stone,was a genius rather than a fraud.The amount of forethought and physical labour that was required to create both the maps and those man-made landmarks that are depicted as some of the symbols thereon disprove any suggestions of predatory motive.I believe that the Bilbrey Crosses were an earlier set of maps,created to pinpoint the location of an prior burial of Jesuit valuables.When the later shipments were complete,and buried in a similar fashion,but separately at the same final destination,the crosses were likely discarded as obsolete.The features depicted on the crosses can either be found on the stone maps or are present and mixed in with the MS features that are visible in the area.The Latin Heart was retained,and I now suspect that it applies to the first mound.If this proves to be the case it will confirm my suspicion that the heart stone insert was modeled on the earlier latin heart,that the Perfico Map(also latin) is of the same vintage and that the switch to spanish for the SM's was the result of forward thinking on the part of the person who designed the maps.

This unaltered sat view is where I spent some of my time recently.
The white "P" with the + extension at the top was made by placing many white stones closely together.The P probably stands for Perficio and points to a big bluish boulder.A cross that lies below and to the right of the trail that leads to the horse's nose was made the same way.It however,is not visible by satview,because of a large cluster of mature mesquite that overhangs it.

Regards:SH.

 

[gollum]

Okay,

For those of you who wonder why ANYONE would make a set of stone maps instead of using skin or parchment, here you go:

Lets say you don't go into the same area every year. Maybe every 5 or 8 years. Your country in Northern Mexico is in constant upheaval. Fighting the Spanish. Civil War. Fighting with the Texicans. Parchment or skin maps can be burned, eaten by rats, erased by water, and destroyed any other number of ways. It can also be stolen by any number of bad guys.

Instead of making maps that lead all the way to your mines/treasures, you make maps that lead you to an area outside the mountain range that is your destination. Once there, your paper maps will guide you to the stone maps that are made in sections and hidden. Once you dig up and piece together all the stones, you copy those over to paper and rebury the stones. The only thing you have to worry about is someone getting the first set of maps leading from the Real to the edge of the range. Even if they do get those, they have no guarantee of finding the stone maps (that extra layer of security seems good to me), therefore your mines/treasures are still safe.

Best-Mike

It's a fine rationalization you've presented, Mike, even though it's illogical to me.

If you've made paper (leather) maps that lead to the stone maps, then you presumably already know the secrets on the stones. If so, why take the trouble of creating and burying/unburying stone maps? OK, let's assume the stone maps were created for a later generation which doesn't yet know the secrets inscribed on them (big stretch for me).

If the paper (leather) maps leading to the stones are lost or destroyed, or the stones cannot be relocated, then all is lost because the secrets have themselves become lost. If the paper (leather) maps are stolen, then the thieves can retrieve the stone maps and use the information on them for themselves, if they can find the stones, that is. If that same secret information was on the paper (leather) maps in the first place, the only extra security you've provided against theft with the stone maps is more time needed to go dig them up. I imagine the thieves would have had plenty of patience and time would not be a factor.

Of course, I suppose the arguement could be made that the stone maps were indeed lost by the Peraltas along with the secrets on them and that's why the mines remain hidden to this day. Maybe the 'extra layer of security' you've attributed to the Peraltas backfired on them. Over all, however, it seems to me anyone capable of locating, exploiting and hiding these alleged rich mines would not take the chance of documenting the secrets on a few rocks buried somewhere in the desert. Things buried in the ground seem to be very difficult to relocate, even if you have a map.

Regarding the 'Peralta Stones' aspect of the Superstition Mountains lore, I vote: clever recent FRAUD. Good legend, lots of afficionados, ripe ground for a good hoax. Not that the subject isn't fun to talk about - this forum proves that it is.

Springfield,

The paper/leather maps would be heavily coded. If the same person headed successive mining expeditions, there would likely be no need to dig up the stone maps every trip. They would only need to be recovered when a new person was running the expedition.

By reading Kenworthy's Books, he states that three maps were required to be submitted for each remote mine;

1. Main Map that led from the Hacienda/Real all the way to the edge of the mountain range. As long as need be.

2. Map that led into mountains to just outside the canyon where the mine is located. As long as 5 to 10 miles.

3. Map that was the most heavily coded and showed the final few hundred yards or so to the mine.

If this correlates to the Stone Maps, then the Priest/Horse Stone would likely be the #2 Map, while the combination of the two map stones would correlate to the #3 Map.

To answer your question; I have copies of a few real treasure maps. They are VERY HEAVILY encoded. So, only a family member would be able to read the encoding on the map to locate the Stone Maps.

Best-Mike

 

[ghostdog]

Ah,SH,I see the P and the heart, and I also think I see images on the heart stone,like a Padre,horse,some kind of animal standing,and maybe a skull,and face. Could the images I think ? I see be part of the map that lead the way to a specific location,or am I just imanageing images that aren"t there.

 

[Oroblanco]

Hola amigos,

Don Jose - no score amigo, for there is no Peralta name on those stones. Without that name, they have no value for a court case in support of El Baron Reavis. Interesting argument, I will agree but...

Perhaps the problem with the Peralta stones is that they require an accompanying written set of directions on how to use them. The Ruth map is an example of this, and the fellow who stole a map from his dead body failed to get the written directions for he didn't know you needed that, and without it the map is useless. Considering that the Stone Maps have no clear named landmark that would enable anyone to pin it to known maps and use it, I strongly suspect that there is an accompanying written set of directions that goes along with them, and without those written directions........

Having raised many objections to these stone maps, I have to agree with SH - they do present a major challenge for a treasure hunter. Unfortunately we all are allotted only so much time on Earth, and have to decide what to expend that time on - in my opinion there are other avenues for a treasure hunter with better odds of success. Besides I can't ever get past the writing style - it just doesn't resemble any known, genuine Spanish or Mexican inscriptions. In epigraphy that is a giant red flag. I do however wish you who are searching with the Peralta Stones, very good luck and hope you will prove me wrong in my suspicions.
Oroblanco

 

[somehiker]

Ah,SH,I see the P and the heart, and I also think I see images on the heart stone,like a Padre,horse,some kind of animal standing,and maybe a skull,and face. Could the images I think ? I see be part of the map that lead the way to a specific location,or am I just imanageing images that aren"t there.

Nope,there were no images or carvings on any of the larger rocks or rock walls that make up the heart itself.There is a short trail that goes upward to the left and leads to a cave in the bluff above.That trail is visible in the satview,as is the border of the mound and the creekbed on the RH side.From any vantage point around,all that can be seen is a big pile of gravel and dirt with only a few larger rocks clustered here and there.The back side of the heart stone insert,IMHO,indicates what lies under the deepest side,that with the "P". The P on the priest stone may refer to this "P",or to the "P" on the horse stone and also the horse itself by coincidence.There is a second heart,a large scraping similar to that found near Twin Buttes, on the slope that faces the lower tip of the heart mound.This scraping matches the relative position of the heart shown to the right of the "omega" symbol on the Priest stone.An equally large and well defined second triangle is visible from the mound as well.It's position and orientation matches the triangle on the
heart stone insert.There is a big arched cave just above this triangle.

Regards:SH.

 

[Springfield]

.... I have copies of a few real treasure maps. They are VERY HEAVILY encoded. So, only a family member would be able to read the encoding on the map to locate the Stone Maps.

Best-Mike

Whether or not your treasure map copies are real, your statement regarding proprietory coding is dead on. Trying to link the 'Peralta stone maps' to Kenworthy's theories is a bit of a stretch, IMHO. Possible? Sure, if you believe Kenworthy's stuff and figure the stone maps are some sort of Spanish treasure maps, then anything's possible. Odds? Anybody's guess (stress 'guess').

While I'll line up with everyone else behind the fact that these stones were created by a very talented entity, and the symbols thereon can obviously be tied to a number of landmarks in the Superstition range, my BS detector continues to flash 'hoax'. I do believe there is something of great value secreted in this part of Arizona, but I don't believe that any of the information available in the public domain will lead to it.

 

[gollum]

.... I have copies of a few real treasure maps. They are VERY HEAVILY encoded. So, only a family member would be able to read the encoding on the map to locate the Stone Maps.

Best-Mike

Whether or not your treasure map copies are real, your statement regarding proprietory coding is dead on. Trying to link the 'Peralta stone maps' to Kenworthy's theories is a bit of a stretch, IMHO. Possible? Sure, if you believe Kenworthy's stuff and figure the stone maps are some sort of Spanish treasure maps, then anything's possible. Odds? Anybody's guess (stress 'guess').

While I'll line up with everyone else behind the fact that these stones were created by a very talented entity, and the symbols thereon can obviously be tied to a number of landmarks in the Superstition range, my BS detector continues to flash 'hoax'. I do believe there is something of great value secreted in this part of Arizona, but I don't believe that any of the information available in the public domain will lead to it.

Okay,

Since this part of the subject has been gone through several times in this and other threads, I will only post a short version of it here:

Springfield, what part of the Stone Maps sets off your BS Meter? Is it the actions of any of the previous owners? That can't possibly be, because EVERY ONE of the stone maps owners has done their best to keep the existence of them a secret. Every one of the previous owners of the Stone Maps has spent many years attempting to solve the stone maps. None (except Aileen Tumlinson) of the previous owners of the Stone Maps has profited from the Stone Maps. Examples:

1. Travis Tumlinson- Found the Stone Maps and kept them a secret from 1949 until his death in 1961. Made several trips from Hood River, Oregon to the Supers trying to solve them. He NEVER attempted to sell them or ask for money from ANYBODY to help him with the Stone Maps. When his health began to fail, did he try to sell the Stone Maps? NO! He GAVE the Stone Maps to his brother Robert. Not the actions of a man who knew he owned something fraudulent.

2. Robert Tumlinson- Had possession of the Stone Maps from about 1956 until about 1960. He was a poor man who lived on a very meager pension, but he NEVER attempted to sell the Stone Maps. As a matter of fact, he used to get drunk and tell the other bar patrons that he had secret treasure maps, and one day he would strike it rich. His landlord and him made four or five trips to the Supers trying to solve the Stone Maps. When his health began to fail, did he try and sell the Stone Maps? NO! He GAVE them back top his brother. Again, not the actions of a man who knew he possessed something fraudulent.

3. Aileen Tumlinson- When Travis died in 1961, his wife Aileen sold the Stone Maps to a long time family friend Clarence O Mitchell. Would you sell something you knew to be fraudulent to an old family friend? I certainly wouldn't. Once again, not the actions of a person who knew they possessed something fraudulent.

4. Clarence O Mitchell- Personally owned the Stone Maps from 1961 until 1969. He owned them personally. They were never property of MOEL Inc. They were never used in the MOEL Stock Prospectus. Mitchell never used them to get money from any potential investors. MOEL was the subject of two legal actions (SEC in 1964 and AZ State in 1968-9). In neither one of those actions was ANY mention made of the Stone Maps being used to generate money. That was never done. Mitchell kept the existence of the Stone Maps a secret from 1961 until 1964. Again, not the actions of a person who possessed something fraudulent.

5. Boyd and Ruth Cochrane- MOEL Investors and Principles from about 1965-6. They knew of the existence of the Stone Maps, and did their best to wrest ownership of them from Mitchell. They were the reason for the downfall of MOEL Inc. They were also the reason for the second legal action against MOEL. They sued MOEL and Mitchell for ownership of the Stone Maps. As a result of this legal action, the State of Arizona forced the Cochranes, Mitchell, and MOEL to donate the Stone Maps to a non-profit entity (this was Flagg Foundation/Az Mining and Minerals Museum). So, if the Cochranes thought the Stone Maps were fakes, would they have sued for ownership? Again, not the actions of people who thought the Stone Maps were fakes.

6. Bob Corbin- Former Attorney General of the State of Arizona and long time Dutch Hunter. Stated that in the late 1960s, he saw the Stone Maps in the possession of the FBI in Phoenix. The agents that had possession of them told him that it was the opinion of the FBI that the Stone Maps were "at least 100 years old" (in the late 1960s). Not one person that I know of has EVER questioned the veracity of Bob Corbin. So, was he hallucinating? Not likely. Again, not looking good for the "Modern Hoax Theory" is it?

So Springfield. Which part of what I just posted sets off your BS Meter?

OOOOOHHHHHH! Is it possible you think the Stone Maps were faked in the 1800s for the Reavis Land Grant Fraud? I used to think it was a possibility as well, but the closer you look, the less likely that would be. Others have already explained why this is so.

So, where does that leave us? See, if you don't have a lot of detailed knowledge of the Stone Maps, then they are easy to dismiss. The one thing I have found in the years that I have been researching them is that the closer you look, and the more details you get, the more likely it is that the Stone Maps are authentic treasure maps.

Best-Mike

 

[ghostdog]

Ok, SH,its obivious to me the larger land images were made to view from a higher mountain location. Have you or anyone else tried to triangleate,and compass delinate,by 1600 or 1800 yr degrees, these image locations to obtain a more specific search area. I believe like others the so called Peralta map stones are authanic, I also think they are part of a larger map that fit in with other pieces like a puzzle.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

guten morgan herr Oro: You posted -->Don Jose - no score amigo, for there is no Peralta name on those stones. Without that name, they have no value for a court case in support of El Baron Reavis. Interesting argument, I will agree but...
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don need no stinkin name, just 'old' Peralta documents showing where the stone maps are.
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Gullum: You posted -->OOOOOHHHHHH! Is it possible you think the Stone Maps were faked in the 1800s for the Reavis Land Grant Fraud? I used to think it was a possibility as well, but the closer you look, the less likely that would be. Others have already explained why this is so.
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Not satisfactorilly.

Don Jose de La Mancha (El advocato del Diablo - known as 'el pesto')

p.s. I wonder on the sanity of anyone that draws a clean, simple, treasure map. They all have safety guards built in. Directions, distances, conditions, etc. The Jesuits even used upside down, reversed mirror images.