tell me im crazy ! im ordering an Explorer SE

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

teverly i was wondering if you have used the 6 inch DD coil on yours yet ? i have one coming for the x70 but have not got it yet so i have never used one before, and was wondering how well they do

 

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[rcawdorswife]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

My wonderful Husband to be just ordered one for me! It should be here Friday! Go to
Minelab.com to the consumer section to see reviews on it.

Im totally excited. I still love my Cortez!!

RCW

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

thats great rcawdorswife, i'm excited to but i wont get to order mine till in the morning, i hope you find some great finds with it, and i hope you got a great deal on it

 

[rcawdorswife]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

We did get a great deal. Lots of goodies to go with it and extras. We got the pinpointer as well.
RCW

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

sounds like we may have ordered from the same place ! congrats to you and let us know how you like it

 

[teverly]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

I have the small round excelerator coil and a 6x9...but they both work really well...

 

[rebelLT]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

Teverly. Yes, my experience is based on 13 years of using the dfx/xlt compared to only about a year with the EX II. The minelab is nowhere near as good as pinpointing as those two machines, though I dont really know about the se, though I hear it does have an improved pinpoint function. I have used the explorer for a few hundred hours this summer and am digging some really deep stuff with the Explorer and the pinpoint almost always seems to be in the side of the hole. If the target is under about 6 inches the pinpoint is fairly accurate, though the procedure takes a while. Under about 7 inches there is almost no volume to the pinpointing tone. Everyone I know that used a DFX or XLT for any amount of time could pinpoint to a circle of about 1 inch in diameter and to the exact depth. I used dig plugs and prided myself on the coin being visible in the bottom of the hole or on the bottom of the plug. I got to the point where I could even cut a cresent shaped hole in the ground, reach my hand in, and pull out the coins down at 4 and 5 inches. I would think that greg, as many coins as he has dug this year, can probably do the same. He asked for some comparison from someone who has used both and I know that he will have problems getting used to the Minelab when transitioning from the DFX. Also, If you are good with the DFX or XLT you can tell by the target dispay that you have two or three different targets hidding in the hole, and that one is a coin. I could often tell if it was, say, a quarter and a pulltab...or a dime and zinc cent. Just my experience with using both machines. The good thing about the minelab, of course, is the depth you can ID targets at when you learn to use it and set it up properly. Greg, I can tell you for certain that an explorer is a deeper machine that the DFX or the XLT. I have had both the explorer and the DFX in the field at the same time and had compared deep silver dimes and pennies on real targets not a test garden. The DFX will actually detect the coin, though it will be a crap signal that reads as a pull tab or some other trash, very seldom will it hit the proper ID. I've found that anything past 6 inches on a small coin is pretty much the max for the DFX under most conditions. I wouldnt switch to an explorer unless you wanted to dig deep targets, its better at that. If you do switch to an explorer I would start using the tone ID on the DFX!

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

ordered my explorer se and will be here tuesday ! had to work this weekened but i hope next weekened i'll be trying out the se, i hope i can get it setup enough to do some hunting on friday i hope ! thanks for the info

 

[kieser sousa/rip]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

teverly i was wondering if you have used the 6 inch DD coil on yours yet ? i have one coming for the x70 but have not got it yet so i have never used one before, and was wondering how well they do

I recently got an x-70 and a 6 inch coil.so i also would like to hear what others think of it.I used my 6 inch coil a couple times and it seemed to do just fine.It's great for getting in and around tight spots.But i havent had it long enough to realy see how it does depth wise.I'm pretty impressed by the x-70 though.I found a 48 and 42 dime today in a heavily hunted area.(with the stock coil)Both were down 6-8 inches in very dry soil.One dime had nails and pieces of tin in the hole also and i could still tell there was something good there.

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

i just have the stock coil on the x70 but i got the 10 inch DD coil for it in the mail this week , have only played with it about a half an hour but it seemed ok, i need more time with it to see how well i'll like it

 

[teverly]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

Teverly. Yes, my experience is based on 13 years of using the dfx/xlt compared to only about a year with the EX II. The minelab is nowhere near as good as pinpointing as those two machines, though I dont really know about the se, though I hear it does have an improved pinpoint function. I have used the explorer for a few hundred hours this summer and am digging some really deep stuff with the Explorer and the pinpoint almost always seems to be in the side of the hole. If the target is under about 6 inches the pinpoint is fairly accurate, though the procedure takes a while. Under about 7 inches there is almost no volume to the pinpointing tone. Everyone I know that used a DFX or XLT for any amount of time could pinpoint to a circle of about 1 inch in diameter and to the exact depth. I used dig plugs and prided myself on the coin being visible in the bottom of the hole or on the bottom of the plug. I got to the point where I could even cut a cresent shaped hole in the ground, reach my hand in, and pull out the coins down at 4 and 5 inches. I would think that greg, as many coins as he has dug this year, can probably do the same. He asked for some comparison from someone who has used both and I know that he will have problems getting used to the Minelab when transitioning from the DFX. Also, If you are good with the DFX or XLT you can tell by the target dispay that you have two or three different targets hidding in the hole, and that one is a coin. I could often tell if it was, say, a quarter and a pulltab...or a dime and zinc cent. Just my experience with using both machines. The good thing about the minelab, of course, is the depth you can ID targets at when you learn to use it and set it up properly. Greg, I can tell you for certain that an explorer is a deeper machine that the DFX or the XLT. I have had both the explorer and the DFX in the field at the same time and had compared deep silver dimes and pennies on real targets not a test garden. The DFX will actually detect the coin, though it will be a crap signal that reads as a pull tab or some other trash, very seldom will it hit the proper ID. I've found that anything past 6 inches on a small coin is pretty much the max for the DFX under most conditions. I wouldnt switch to an explorer unless you wanted to dig deep targets, its better at that. If you do switch to an explorer I would start using the tone ID on the DFX!

Was not questioning your experience.After a couple replies from minelab users a comment was posted about getting advice from experienced minelab users.
I have been using minelabs since the XS came out.And my personal experience with them as far as pinpointing goes is that they pinpoint fine.The only targets i find on the side of the hole are the ones that are on an angle.Even with the deep targets i have dug the explorers pin point was right on.
Im glad there are people on here that have used both to give opinions on both machines...
If you read my posts i have never tried to tell anyone that the explorer is better than the dfx or any machine i have never used.I only post my experiences with the explorers over the last 7yrs.

 

[DFX-SE Gregg]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

Teverly. Yes, my experience is based on 13 years of using the dfx/xlt compared to only about a year with the EX II. The minelab is nowhere near as good as pinpointing as those two machines, though I dont really know about the se, though I hear it does have an improved pinpoint function. I have used the explorer for a few hundred hours this summer and am digging some really deep stuff with the Explorer and the pinpoint almost always seems to be in the side of the hole. If the target is under about 6 inches the pinpoint is fairly accurate, though the procedure takes a while. Under about 7 inches there is almost no volume to the pinpointing tone. Everyone I know that used a DFX or XLT for any amount of time could pinpoint to a circle of about 1 inch in diameter and to the exact depth. I used dig plugs and prided myself on the coin being visible in the bottom of the hole or on the bottom of the plug. I got to the point where I could even cut a cresent shaped hole in the ground, reach my hand in, and pull out the coins down at 4 and 5 inches. I would think that greg, as many coins as he has dug this year, can probably do the same. He asked for some comparison from someone who has used both and I know that he will have problems getting used to the Minelab when transitioning from the DFX. Also, If you are good with the DFX or XLT you can tell by the target dispay that you have two or three different targets hidding in the hole, and that one is a coin. I could often tell if it was, say, a quarter and a pulltab...or a dime and zinc cent. Just my experience with using both machines. The good thing about the minelab, of course, is the depth you can ID targets at when you learn to use it and set it up properly. Greg, I can tell you for certain that an explorer is a deeper machine that the DFX or the XLT. I have had both the explorer and the DFX in the field at the same time and had compared deep silver dimes and pennies on real targets not a test garden. The DFX will actually detect the coin, though it will be a crap signal that reads as a pull tab or some other trash, very seldom will it hit the proper ID. I've found that anything past 6 inches on a small coin is pretty much the max for the DFX under most conditions. I wouldnt switch to an explorer unless you wanted to dig deep targets, its better at that. If you do switch to an explorer I would start using the tone ID on the DFX!

I have been using tone id since I got the dfx...I am going to watch for a deal...what is the major difference from the ex 2, xs and se

 

[rcawdorswife]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

Got my Minellab explorer SE Friday. I have only practiced inthe backyard, but pinpoint is dead on if you listen for the tone. Seems liike a piece of cake to use if you have read the book. Ill keep posted on finds, but pinpoint works well. I dont think it is too heavy either...

RCW

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

glad you got it and thanks for the update rcawdorswife, i was wondering about pinpointing and the weight ! thanks for the info and keep us updated , mine is suppose to arrive tuesday and i'll be taking friday off and have along weekened i hope , so i hope to be trying my SE out

 

[rcawdorswife]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

Took mine out to the beach this am and found a belt, and a couple coins. The pin pointing is easy for me to use. Still have to learn more, but Seems like it will work like a charm. Tones are a definite plus!

RCW

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

congrats on the finds rcawdorswife and i'll remember that about the tones, thanks

 

[teverly]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

The difference between the XS AND THE EX2 is that they redid the shaft mount where it hooks to the box.The xs was the original along with an s model,but the piece where the top shaft hooked into the control box would break.
They may have upgraded the computer on the ex2 and they fixed the breakage problem.The ex2 does respond alittle faster than the original.
To me,the SE responds a lot faster and the tones are a little different.I think the shortcuts between screens is a little easier to navigate also.Pinpointing with all of them is pretty much spot on in my opinion,after you practice with it a little.
The explorers are good machines,but as has been stressed before,you have to learn itby practicing.

 

[teverly]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

Got my Minellab explorer SE Friday. I have only practiced inthe backyard, but pinpoint is dead on if you listen for the tone. Seems liike a piece of cake to use if you have read the book. Ill keep posted on finds, but pinpoint works well. I dont think it is too heavy either...

RCW

Keep us posted on the finds and good luck..

 

[weasel606]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

great info teverly ! once i get mine up and running i will read the book and try it out but i may have a question or two for ya as i go, thanks very much for all your info

 

[Ocean7]

Re: tell me i'm crazy ! i'm ordering an Explorer SE

I think what is needed here is a honest pros and cons from experienced users...anybody?

pros:
deep target machine with great finds in very old areas.
cons:
too heavy and poorly balanced. Should offer a hip-mount version.
Should come with X-1 probe standard equipment.