Tayopa in Durango?

[jeff of pa]

depends upon the reader Jeff I have a lot to post on Tayopa, but it has to be in sequence to be of value.

TT, You are welcome to start posting it imo

Here or in a new thread

Originally Posted by Oroblanco ; Moderators you can go ahead and lock this thread as far as I am concerned, looks like the discussion is totally derailed anyway.

same with you Oro.. you can continue here or in another (even New) thread, if you prefer.

I'm not going to go back through all the pages & try & make heads or tales of every post,
and a little straying in such long threads is Human Nature.

I do not Like closing threads. to me it's a very last resort.

Originally Posted by Ed T ; I am sorry...If I have been a sarcastic little ...After all...Most of the stuff I had posted was a bunch of b.s...After all...If there really is a Tayopa...It will be wherever the actual discoverer of said will be...

Ed, where do I start ?
I also don't like banning members from TNet or from threads.
But by your own admission your posting sarcastic b.s. & Have little or no belief it is real.
Feel free to start your own thread to discuss why if you wish, others may even join in to debate or whatever.

But please don't contaminate others threads to the point we have to come in and do this

by the way some of your posts are getting Very close to be labeled Preaching.
Religion is not to be spread here unless the Quote
or referrence can be tied directly to a Treasure .

Thank You all for your Posts, & Time

Jeff

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Ed I certainlly don't expect you. or anyone else to blindly agree with me, but I do expect a legitiment reason other than 'I don't believe you"

For exampl, I have gone out on a limb because of new data - map_ to modify the long trip to Rome.


Thanks to NP

 

[doc-d]

Mi amigo, Senor Don Jose, even with the map, I do not see where reason will affect anything……
But our big brother has spoken and silenced the nonsense, we can only hope…..

Well my friend, our return home is coming quickly now, less than a month, God willing...

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Doc, d'ya spose that I can sue Uncle Sam to return the Tayopa bars?

 

[Not Peralta]

Real De Tayopa, this was called the banker stone by bob ward, its also in his book, it was found close to were the stone tablets were found, as far as I know it did not have anything to do with the supes
or the stone tablets, maybe a map associated with tayopa, it never made since for the area it was found, maybe you need to take a hard look at it, the padre in the photo seems to be weighing his prize,
but I do believe it to be a map , were else could a padre be weighing something, time for have to go, np

 

[weekender]

The Padre Inverted
A little better definition

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-Weekender
-Mike

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

First glance, I tend to agree with you NP, it appears to be opening a cornucopia or a entrance to an underground chamber

Will sleep on it./

 

[Oroblanco]

The Padre Inverted
A little better definition

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-Weekender
-Mike

That "padre" looks rather Chinese or at least Oriental to me? Hmmm.

 

[releventchair]

Yes it does. China-man playing shell game using hats for shells, unless his hat is a bell.. Lower area of pic looks like a rooster getting tread on by another nonchicken bird like an eagle or other..
Lower left quarter is a ring with something through it, or a hand crank churn, or despite no patent till 1825 area a tulle hand crank blower for a forge.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/l...omewhere-other-than-superstition-mtns-32.html

 

[Not Peralta]

That "padre" looks rather Chinese or at least Oriental to me? Hmmm.

have some , I know exactly where this was found close to the original stones, maybe within half mile . in the photo is that a horn of plenty,this thing was studied for years ,does not fit anything regarding the supes, maybe nm, np remember the doc noss story about finding the padre sitting at the table in the cave, just a thought,

 

[Oroblanco]

have some , I know exactly where this was found close to the original stones, maybe within half mile . in the photo is that a horn of plenty,this thing was studied for years ,does not fit anything regarding the supes, maybe nm, np remember the doc noss story about finding the padre sitting at the table in the cave, just a thought,

Possibly, and interesting to consider; however, the more I look at that image, the more it looks like a drawing of a Chinese merchant weighing opium. Even to the bowls and pointed hat, long over-sized sleeves and Oriental buttons on his jacket.



If it is what it appears (to me) to be, it is a rather peculiar subject matter to turn up where it was found. However many Chinese were employed in building the railroads of the western states, and also working mines, besides being miners themselves, Chinese coins and relics turn up in some remarkable places. (Not far from where I live, in Deadwood, there was a China-town section, as was the case in many western towns of the frontier period).

I don't think that is a 'padre", but that is a personal opinion.
Oroblanco

 

[J.A.A.]

Originally Posted by Oroblanco
That "padre" looks rather Chinese or at least Oriental to me? Hmmm.


I'm inclined to absolutely agree. My wife's god mother is from japan and she has a very old picture (a stencil drawing) at her home that looks almost identical to this pic! The man holding in his hand what appears to be the same thing he's wearing on his head...a hat(??). I'll have to see if she can scan/email it to me with a little info as to the background & origin of how/when/where she got the picture. I always found it to be an out-of-place object- It just struck me as though it didn't quite fit into the decor of her home outside of the obvious fact that she's Asian and the gentlemen in the picture appears to be as well. I personally feel that it's his jacket (can't remember the technical name but it's a "kimono-type" shirt) that's a dead giveaway about him being Asian.

Just thought I'd share.

As usual, thank you in advance and piping hot cups of roasted goodness passed around to all!!

Justin

 

[doc-d]

Agreed, the asian man is not a padre………odd picture and the question of where it was found.
Oro, you live near Deadwood? Nice place, we stopped for a night there on our return from Montana this summer………
I've never seen an entire town turned into a casino…..

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

I wish we had a clearer picture, but the symbol on the mouth of the Cornucopia if Chinese, indicates Earth / Opium, without the classifier ?

 

[Not Peralta]

Real, good morn, just woke up and having a strong , like I said before, this photo is just out of place for where it was found, the person that actually found it was from Sweden or some other country, and he some how got in touch with bob and showed him how and where it was found,and bob ended up with it, no one could ever make sense of it , its just a real curiosity , when I thought about the other map helping you, I just could not figure out why a padre or someone else would have so much of something that they were having to weigh it, it still looks like a map of some type, maybe not,
maybe it will make sense to someone, I hope someone can use it, I don't want to hold anything back that might help someone, you never know. going to get another and sit back and listen. np

 

[Oroblanco]

Agreed, the asian man is not a padre………odd picture and the question of where it was found.
Oro, you live near Deadwood? Nice place, we stopped for a night there on our return from Montana this summer………
I've never seen an entire town turned into a casino…..

Not that near to Deadwood, over an hour away but was mentioning it as an example. It has a lot of casinos, but also has two very good museums (especially the Adams is worth the visit, they have the original Thoen stone on display which is another not-so-famous treasure story; Deadwood Magazine - History, News, Photos and Features from the American Frontier) - a great library (microfilm copies of many of the earliest newspapers ever printed in Dakota's Black Hills) pretty good food, a couple of very interesting cemeteries (Mt Moriah has the graves of Wild Bill Hickok, Calamity Jane and several lesser old-west characters); heck the county courthouse has some really neat old maps up on the walls that I would love to get copies of. Anyway that is just for starters so it sounds like you may have missed the more interesting sites? Anyway Newcastle Wyoming also had its own Chinatown and strangely much of the town has underground tunnels that connect with the various stores, shops etc.

NP that image was carved onto stone? I wonder what was the reason for it?

Oroblanco

 

[Not Peralta]

Not that near to Deadwood, over an hour away but was mentioning it as an example. It has a lot of casinos, but also has two very good museums (especially the Adams is worth the visit, they have the original Thoen stone on display which is another not-so-famous treasure story; Deadwood Magazine - History, News, Photos and Features from the American Frontier) - a great library (microfilm copies of many of the earliest newspapers ever printed in Dakota's Black Hills) pretty good food, a couple of very interesting cemeteries (Mt Moriah has the graves of Wild Bill Hickok, Calamity Jane and several lesser old-west characters); heck the county courthouse has some really neat old maps up on the walls that I would love to get copies of. Anyway that is just for starters so it sounds like you may have missed the more interesting sites? Anyway Newcastle Wyoming also had its own Chinatown and strangely much of the town has underground tunnels that connect with the various stores, shops etc.

NP that image was carved onto stone? I wonder what was the reason for it?

Oroblanco

oroblanco, I have not a clue, thats why I put it back on here, maybe someone will figure it out, and use it. np

 

[doc-d]

Ed T, are you starting again?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Ed, Marius, sigh, the two maps are the same effectively. and who do you think published that map first ? After I had found Tayopa it was no longer necessary to hide it so I posted it there and HERE. It cover a larger scale than Dobies.

The distance between the two buildings i approc. 1 1/2 - 2 miles.

I also gave Riesco the letter to Las Pimas & La Tarasca. I mentioned that in here is a discussion with il Orpanie Annie, who is my good friend.

I also posted a map to them and told the readers to go have fun, they both are open for filing/

I originated or reaffirmed the fact that there were three Tayopas, Dobies" is mine.

If you read past the first page you will see a far different idea on Tayopa, They acknowledge that I have it and mention that Beltrones, X gov, of Sonors, had spent quite a bit of money and is still tracking my posts. In fact a green helicopter has been seen checking our movementsevery so often, Hey I am quite willing to take him in as a principal.

As far as NP's map it is solomente to show the trade route to the Colorado river, possibly wth a connection to the deposits in Victroio Peak, and the Caballos mts.that area is stil being jelled.

enough for ths morning

 

[markmar]

EdT

Thanks for the link . The derrotero of Ambrose ( the document 2 ) , is 95% accurate , and leads to the Tayopa in my theory ( see previous posted images ) . I believe is the most accurate derrotero in all the Tayopa's clues . The nice is how I have found this place with other clues , before read the Ambrose derrotero . This derrotero just make me feel how I am in the right trail/train .
In my theory , the Dobie's map cover a surface about 1x 0,8 Km .