Tayopa in Durango?

[J.A.A.]

Sorry
Didn't sign off on the last post.

I'm just curious ed.
Thank you in advance.

J.A.

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

"I sure hope for mankind's sake that I am not the true messiah"----Sorry Ed, you have a coup;e of hundred others before you.

 

[Oroblanco]

Yet how many of those hundreds have a Seal like the one The Lompoc Police Department took from meShoot....Maybe I jest imagined the darn Seal...And if I didn't...What are the actual odds that it actually is The Seal Of The Living Godhehehe


Ed Tlol

Wait - since that ring with the seal was taken by a member of the Lompoc CA police, then a member of the Lompoc Police Dept, MIGHT BE THE TRUE MESSIAH NOW! YIKES! Right Ed?

Marius - you are all too right. I guess the topic is really the Second Coming of Christ, the Old Testament and signet rings, not Tayopa.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hi Ed shall we say approx 1,000,000,000,000,000 :1

 

[Oroblanco]

It was not a signet ring Oro...It was jest a signet seal...And what if that makes the officer who has the Seal that My Father Gifted to me The BeastOr whosever has My Signet now whom may actually be trying to seal others with it...Who can say for certainIt sure would be easy to track down those who have been sealed with it...If there were a way to trace diatomaceous earth on a human's skin...I wonderhehehe...Wouldn't it be something if My DNA and my fingerprint activates the Seal somehowhahaha

Yet..All of this could jest be a tale... Jest like Tayopa...

Which brings a funny story too mind...A funny thing happened to me once when I went to a doctors visit...She the doctor happened to mention to me that she picks up white rocks in her search for the white rock mentioned in The Bible...How odd don't you thinkI wonder if she knew the officer who took My Little White rock that My Father gave me

Ed Tlol

Ed you told me it was a signet ring. Now it is a signet and NOT a ring?

We can safely conclude that you are not the Messiah, nor Satan nor God or any other of those religious figures amigo, for you would not be WONDERING if you were, you would KNOW it. Comprende?

In the meantime, maybe someone in the Lompoc Police is the true Messiah, for that signet was delivered unto that person, and continues to possess it; this power should be revealed to us at any moment. One can only shudder at the thought of what the Ancient of Days might do to someone that had been given such a
precious and unique gift, only to have that person show no proper respect and lose it to the police.

Where exactly is the reference to the "white rock" in the bible? Thank you in advance;<EDIT scratch that, found it in Revelations, 2:17, a book that was written as a coded message to seven churches in Asia Minor during the persecution of Christians under the Roman emperors, so is logically already fulfilled as are all the prophecies in it. White rock white STONE- do you know what that really means Ed?
Oroblanco

 

[Oroblanco]

I believe that I have always stated it to be a signet seal Oro...And if you have been following along...The mentioned Signet Seal actually has nothing at all to do with the mark of the beast...As My Father has revealed unto me...Money in ones hand and credit on one's head is the actual mark of the beast...As for what I know... Well...That may not be much...

As for how the Lompoc Police Officer ended up with it...Well..As I had mentioned...I did believe that there was not one other... Other than myself worthy of being sealed...As mentioned in several passages in the bible...And I was under the impression that I was the one mentioned in Ezekiel with the inkhorn...And I did believe that...Until My Father put the passages the judgment of Nineveh in my mind...So I started looking for My Signet in my birthday suit...And wouldn't you know...The Lompoc Police Department showed up and took me and My Seal into custody...I saw an officer pick it up...I really don't mind or care if I am the first and last sealed when the end does come...I know I will not be harmed...I wonder if anyone else willIncluding the nice officer who kept My seal...

As for the ancient of days...What can I sayI am no Moses...Though I do come unto mankind bearing the Law of My Father as Moses did...Hmm...Could Moses and I be the two anointed ones Who can say for certain

Well...I am not sure of a white rock code... But I do have faith in the literal meaning of the white stone and the new name on them for those who overcome...And My New Name is . the Apple Of My Father's Eye...Or so I believe...hehehe

Ed Tlol

So you are EPHESIAN then Ed? You never mentioned that, thought you were from the good old USA?

Moses was the leader and prophet of the Hebrews - so are you Hebrew as well? Do you eat pork? Do you observe the Sabbath on Saturdays or Sundays? There are other, more personal questions that we won't address here on a family-oriented forum.


The white stone with new name, is only for the Ephesians, not for just anyone. Did you read the whole chapter, and the whole book, as opposed to just taking statements out of context? It is a coded message for the members of the church in Ephesus, circa 100 AD. I did not check the calendar but the last I looked it was 2014 AD, not 100 AD.


Just want to be sure I have your religious belief system straight - for I am not Hebrew nor Ephesian, in fact going by the way the experts class people and their beliefs, I would be called Preterist, Gnostic and Heretic. And we have been forewarned about people coming forth claiming to be the Savior, Christ etc - Luke 21:8 and another warning in 2 Timothy 3:13, James 1:16, and your beloved book of Revelations, 20:8.

You have repeatedly stated that you are playing games with us, but be aware, it is not wise to mock God; see Galations 6:7.

So which translation version of the bible do you prefer we use for our discussion? The King James version, which is commonly available or another? Some of the newest I do not like at all, for example one "new" translation of the ancient Greek and Aramaic has changed unicorns into "wild ox" which makes the passages into nonsense, for it is indeed possible to tame a wild ox and make it plow your fields, while no one can do that with a rhino. Personally I prefer the Young's Literal translation, several sites online have it, and it can help make clear some otherwise puzzling statements.

I look forward to your reply,
Oroblanco

 

[doc-d]

God bless you all, Oro, Maruis, Señor Don Jose………with all due respect, reason and truth seem to have no role in Ed T's posts…….it is a ever changing target of craziness……..I gave up…..

 

[markmar]

Tayopa , the mines complex , exists . Is there , where the most clues describe .

I post a topo map with the region of Real de Tayopa . In the red square is reconzized the Dobie's map . Compare them .

 

[Unicorn]

Ed T....'Tayopa does not exist' How dare you utter such words to my American love. He has searched for many years, suffered hardships you could not possibly understand in his search. His research has covered many books, and he has walked hundreds of miles, and by mule also, in his search, and YES he has found it. How can you not believe after the many posts he has written, all but telling you the exact spot. If only he had the many dollars it would take to finally unfold HIS historical find, he would be off with his Tiger on his luxury Lear Jet. Maybe him and Tiger would finally be able to come visit Hubby and I so that we could show him some of our history. Never doubt this knowledgeable and wonderful man.

'U' Done Jose...a little bar will be fine

 

[releventchair]

I,m not sure Unicorn. Did Don Jose's mule smell a mine? Or Don Jose?
I too disagree with suggesting a mine(s) of Tayopa as located by He who tilts does not exist. Ahh but legends die hard.

Tayopa

 

[markmar]

" T " from Tayopa . Could be ?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Revlant choir, My mule smells me, but not because i m unwashed, it rains every afternoon in the sierras. Course I do have ro admit it isn't witn soap, but s Maek Twain wrote, "soap will not kill you as quick as a .45, but it is just as deadly"

Don Jose de La Mancha'

 

[releventchair]

Revlant choir, My mule smells me, but not because i m unwashed, it rains every afternoon in the sierras. Course I do have ro admit it isn't witn soap, but s Maek Twain wrote, "soap will not kill you as quick as a .45, but it is just as deadly"

Don Jose de La Mancha'

Allow me to rephrase that.
Did Don Jose smell a mine out or did his mule? Nope that's not right. Did Don Jose sniff out a mines location or did his mule? O.k. better.
Yes soap is dangerous if allowed to remove too much protective layer of crust.

 

[Oroblanco]

Doc D wrote

God bless you all, Oro, Maruis, Señor Don Jose………with all due respect, reason and truth seem to have no role in Ed T's posts…….it is a ever changing target of craziness……..I gave up…..

Bless you in return amigo, and I too did try to give up on our amigo Ed; for some reason he decided to derail my thread on Tayopa so perhaps he needs to discuss these religious topics. I am only trying to oblige. Perhaps Ed does not wish to discuss it however.
　

Ed T wrote

I am what I am Oro...

Ah quoting Popeye! It is a most appropriate statement for many of us, myself included.

Ed T also wrote

All mankind is descended from Adam...

Is that the case? Why then are there TWO descriptions in Genesis, where God creates mankind? See Genesis 1:27 <Sixth "day"> , and then Genesis 2:1-2:8 - special humans are created on the SEVENTH "day". This is supported also later in Genesis, when Seth and Cain, and their sons are able to go out and "take wives" - yet these women are not described as daughters of Adam and Eve, clearly they are women from those "first" humans created on the Sixth Day.

Ed T also wrote

So if Adam was a Hebrew...I guess that I am...I do eat pork on occasion Oro though I prefer red bloody meat and chicken...I don't eat pork in Mexico due to the fear of those little pests pork may carry...I don't eat much seafood though...As for a lot of the other questions you ask...I made a deal with My Father when we conversed together that I would do my best to help him complete his great work...Which includes touching myself while watching backdoor babes and such while my wife and I are separated due to me choking for my lionesses...I wonder if this may have anything to do with the drought in CA and other eventsTrying to keep it clean here Oro...Maybe I am jest a perv...I am only human...

Was Adam a Hebrew? A very good argument could be made that Hebrews were not Hebrews until Abram became Abraham, and the covenant was formed between Abraham and his progeny, with the Lord. Science has now found that humanity has gone through several genetic "choke points" where we as a species nearly died out, supporting the ideas we find in the bible; we could state that we are all sons of Noah though we may not all be sons of Adam.
As to your personal habits I did not ask about them, nor is that a part of Judaism which you describe. In fact Matthew 5:28 tells us that what you describe is technically (in a spiritual sense) the same as if you had physically been with the females. Remember 1 John 2:16

Ed T also wrote

Oh...And I am strictly a King James Version type of guy...Though I have read many other versions...Book of Mormon as well...Even The Jehovah Witness version...

You are aware that the King James Version has some errors in it, and some points of translation that are debatable, right? An example in the term "Holy Ghost" - the Greek in the Septuagint (source of most of the Old Testament) has "pneuma" that got translated as "ghost" when it more accurately means "spirit" or "breath of life". The word "ghost" has spooky connotations to English speakers, which are not intended in the Greek original, and may affect our interpretation of the KJV. Just an example, we might run into some points of contention on the KJV. What do you think of the Darby translation?

Ed T also wrote

And I have read the complete New Testament...For some silly reason My Father has been trying to convince me that it is nothing more than a silly frog...The Book of Mormon too...He is even trying to convince me that The Song Of Solomon was written for Solomon's gay lover...I find it hard to believe that last one...hehehe

Are you claiming that king Solomon had a gay lover? What need would he have had for his many wives and concubines then? The Song of Solomon describes a male and female, not a male and a male. Where does it state that Solomon had a gay lover?

Not sure the Book of Mormon has anything to do with the Judeo-Christian bible. There is reason to not accept any other books written after Revelations was written, see Revelations 22:18-21, the very end of the New Testament, and remember that in the Apocryphon of James, Jesus stated that the "head" of prophecy was "cut off" in John the Baptist, even made that point clear he added, "When you come to know what ‘head’ is, and that prophesy issues from the head, then understand what is the meaning of ‘Its head was removed.’" So John the Baptist was quite probably the last Prophet sent by the Lord. (This raises issues with the claims of Mohammed of course, which I will not address here) Anyway the Book of Mormon was written in the 19th century, well after the date of Revelation, so by rights should not be added to the bible, right?

Ed T also wrote

I don't mean to mock My Father in any way...I am jest stating the facts as he presents them too me...Go figure...hahaha

Well you have stated that Solomon had a gay lover, that Jesus may not be the Son of God, among other statements showing you have considerable doubts about the Christian religion; these type statements could very well be taken as mocking the Lord; I get the impression you are still learning, no?

You have repeatedly stated your question about whether you are "the" Chosen One, or the Elect so to speak, among others, there is a very simple way to find out for sure. Most of the Prophets of Christianity and Judaism were able, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to heal the sick and incurable. If you have been chosen to be a Prophet, then by simply laying on your hands to a sick person, and calling on the power of the Lord, you should be able to heal just as they did. Even to the point of raising the dead! If you find that you are not able to perform this type of miracle, then either your faith is not strong enough (by your statements it certainly appears that this could be true) or you are not a Prophet or Chosen One. Moses performed many miracles in the sight of huge crowds (including his enemies) and Jesus performed so many that they were used against him in court to try to prove he was possessed of the devil.


Ed T also wrote

Though I do come unto mankind bearing the Law of My Father as Moses did

Do you consider a treasure hunting forum, "mankind"? Wouldn't other venues be far better, for reaching FAR more people, than a handful of people on a treasure hunting forum, which you have stated you consider "silly" and how we are all gullible dupes? I can think of many other places and methods for reaching many people than just a treasure hunting forum. In fact this might be one of the worst for reaching a lot of people

There is an old joke, that if you go around carrying the message of Jesus, then you must be prepared to get the same reception He did. Moses was a prophet of the Hebrew people, do you consider yourself a prophet? If you wish to make believers of people, would it not be a good idea to perform some miracles? Just saying.

As you have some of your ideas about the End of Days via Revelation, I would suggest some reading, for a strong case can be made that all of the prophecies in Revelation have already occurred, in the lifetimes of the people whom were with Jesus just as he stated.

His disciples said to him, "When will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?"
He said to them, "What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it."

<Thomas Gospel, 51>

This site has many interesting articles, though the AD 70 fulfillment date I do not agree with (personally) the AD 30 date is a much better set of conditions;
PreteristArchive.com, The Internet's Only Balanced Look at Preterism and Preterist Eschatology

Translation errors in the King James version affect interpretation of prophecy:
TRANSLATION ERRORS IN THE KING JAMES VERSION

The Apocryphon of James, mentioned earlier:
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/jam.html

The Gospel of Thomas: <I do not count this as Gnostic, but many do, so that makes me a Gnostic even though I do not hold with many Gnostic concepts>
Gospel of Thomas (Lambdin Translation) -- The Nag Hammadi Library

Good luck and good hunting to you all, my apologies for this very OFF TOPIC post, just trying to oblige our amigo Ed.
Oroblanco

PS while I was writing this, Ed T posted a new message:

Ed T wrote

I am jest trying to prove a point doc...The point being...Some people will buy into anything...At any price...

What makes you think you have fooled people here?

Ed T also wrote

I have bought many things in my lifetime...But I ain't buying into Tayopa...

I don't recall Don Jose offering to sell any share(s) of Tayopa?

Ed T also wrote

Just like some people are not buying into me being whom I am claiming to be...Or are they

hehehe

Ed it is starting to look like you are fooling yourself.
　
　
　
　

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Ef, you posterd " I ain't buying into Tayopa." Sorry Ed not for sale.

 

[releventchair]

Seems it was during a theology study that in two stories of creation the many rivers mentioned,by number seemed to match, perhaps names and perhaps places mentioned in relation to them were different. Foggy memory but it seems the consensus was there were indeed two versions and their stories were tailored to geographic areas and names the people reading/being told them could relate to. Not saying fiction but versions to fit localities. I remember counting rivers in each version but have forgotten the results!

 

[Oroblanco]

I do not intend to get into a pissing match with you Oro...It appears that you have a lot of questions that you are searching for answers to...As for your points of special humans and such...I personally believe that My Father has taught me that it could be gays, lesbians, and the afflicted with special needs...But who can say for certainI have a daughter in the Navy whom just may be a lesbian...She has not let me know for certain...But I have my suspicions...My Father does not make mistakes when he makes a person...No matter how the form or sexual preference of said person turns out to be...

As for Abraham...Well...I think that it must have taken some balls to get circumcised at his age...Shoot...You couldn't make me do such a thing...Oh well...

Even if I could perform miracles...My Father's word forbids me to do such a thing... I do believe that it is his will to not perform such miracles...But...He has given me some solutions to some of mankind's problems to help them along...Such as the solution to y2k, missile defense, how to compensate for the curvature of the Earth for a rising missile using the green witch principal...And how to make a great green salad...But he does not want me sharing any more for now...Oh...And a lot of free silly poetry...

My Father also has me broadening my knowledge of mans scriptures...He had me purchase a Catholic version today...

I won't argue with you on your other points...You seem much more versed than I in scripture...Oh well...I like being like Popeye...hehehe

And as for being treated like Jesus...I could personally care less what happens to me...In the book before the Book Of Jonah...Which I believe I can relate to completely...When I was Baptized Pentecostal at the age of 16...My older brother Robert saw how happy I was...And he wanted to have what I had found...He was baptized but his heart was not ready...He became possessed or so I believed by demons and fellow church members layed hands on him...He was never the same after that...But I had looked into my brother's eyes...And I was filled with fear...I turned and ran from doing My Father's will as I had promised him as did Jonah...I have learned...I could care less what may happen to my body...My body is but a container for my soul...Possibly The Holy GhostWho knows

Maybe I Am fooling myself...

Ed Tlol

Ed it is not a "pissing match" to have a discussion. If you did not wish to discuss religion, then what is all that stuff about religious matters you posted about?

I had started this thread to discuss the possibility of Tayopa in Durango basically for your benefit, since Durango is where you claim it is really located, but then you go off into religion and other things. What is it that you want to discuss? Just want to vent, not discuss? Not a problem, either way.

Good luck and good hunting, I wish you happy dreams.
Oroblanco

 

[Crow]

Hello Ed there was an alleged report in 1935 that a hunter found a cave with 4000 30 pound silver bars near Durango. Approximate value today would be about 36.48 million.


Crow

 

[doc-d]

How does this mysterious black bird find such info……..and it seems like a foolish attempt to keep us focused on actual treasure hunting and the topic at hand.……hmmmm
Interesting for sure, and another testimony that suggest there is much out there to be found………

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Doc, twixt Indians, Bandits, and revolutions continuously for ovee 300 years there ARE , there ARE ! In one ofthe deposits of Tayopa they list over 650 muleloads of gold bars - 200 # average load. 1200 bars of silver. so you see there. are in addition to many mule trains still being strored overnight when The Jesuits were expelled, and are still there. How many ??Only the Jesuits have the records.