Strange silver coin?

[aa battery]

I have no idea but its silver and down about 7 inches near a historic site.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Old post but I would say its definitely an SCA silver coin.

Look here you will find coins very similar. http://www.gmmnut.com/gmm/sca/sca.html

http://www.gmmnut.com/gmm/sca/sca.html

 

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[Iron Patch]

Screams modern fake to me.

(but I hope I'm very wrong)

 

[Iron Patch]

Looking at it i dont think its hammered

That's precisely the problem.

 

[Dano Sverige]

That head and face don't look like any i've ever seen on a British coin, but then i'm no expert. Odd that Crusader and the Brit gang never replied on this.

 

[aa battery]

Old post but I would say its definitely an SCA silver coin.

Look here you will find coins very similar. http://www.gmmnut.com/gmm/sca/sca.html

http://www.gmmnut.com/gmm/sca/sca.html

think your right

 

[ivan salis]

ah "these close to real looking but modern replica (high quality fakes) silver coins " are sold to buy things at the fair * the fair merchants have a "price" set up for the value of the "token /coins" and honor them as "money"-- being silver they of course have metal value * backing them -- at fairs end they redeem them with the token seller (thus cashing them out) --the token seller makes a bit via the buying / selling differance --so everyones happy --if the buyer of the coin keeps it as a sovenier rather than redeeming it --the selling price of the coin / token covers its silver value and a bit more $ in profiet.

 

[Silver Searcher]

It looks like a Copy of a Low Countries Silver Esterlin (perhaps Germany) 1300s ish, the legend looks all wrong, for it to be real :P I will try for a match

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It looks like a Copy of a Low Countries Silver Esterlin (perhaps Germany) 1300s ish, the legend looks all wrong, for it to be real :P I will try for a match

SS

You can try but Im convinced its an SCA coin and aa battery believes the ID is correct. In other words its solved. Its not old. Its not a replica or a copy. (its a modern silver SCA fantasy coin from a reenactment)
It was found in Kearny Park.
Read replys 30-40.




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Aabattery, do the same thing you did, but go back and do it to your original post and the green check will be in its proper place. Thanks.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,259097.0.html

 

[Silver Searcher]

It looks like a Copy of a Low Countries Silver Esterlin (perhaps Germany) 1300s ish, the legend looks all wrong, for it to be real :P I will try for a match

SS

You can try but Im convinced its an SCA coin and aa battery believes the ID is correct. In other words its solved. Its not old. Its not a replica or a copy. (its a modern silver SCA fantasy coin from a reenactment)
It was found in Kearny Park.

Read replys 30-40.




___________________________________________________________________________________
Aabattery, do the same thing you did, but go back and do it to your original post and the green check will be in its proper place. Thanks.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,259097.0.html

What the Hell type of reply is this...jees you try and help and this is what you get Like I said it LOOKS LIKE, which it does, I commented because it wasn't Green checked...or can't I do that even

neither did I say it was old, the date I posted was for reference, it certainly isn't Edward111 or any outher English King imatation. And if a reenactment (fantasy) coin...it would depict some body, the reverse is a typical Long Cross image found on English Coins and Silver Esterlin Low Country Coins.
So as The depiction of the image is yet to be Id, I don't see how it can be Green Checked.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

What the Hell type of reply is this...jees you try and help and this is what you get Like I said it LOOKS LIKE, which it does, I commented because it wasn't Green checked...or can't I do that even

neither did I say it was old, the date I posted was for reference, it certainly isn't Edward111 or any outher English King imatation. And if a reenactment (fantasy) coin...it would depict some body, the reverse is a typical Long Cross image found on English Coins and Silver Esterlin Low Country Coins.
So as The depiction of the image is yet to be Id, I don't see how it can be Green Checked.

LOL SS. 8) You can comment all you want but it helps to read the posts.


Are you disagreeing with the SCA ID?

(green checked 2 posts above yours)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

ah "these close to real looking but modern replica (high quality fakes) silver coins " are sold to buy things at the fair * the fair merchants have a "price" set up for the value of the "token /coins" and honor them as "money"-- being silver they of course have metal value * backing them -- at fairs end they redeem them with the token seller (thus cashing them out) --the token seller makes a bit via the buying / selling differance --so everyones happy --if the buyer of the coin keeps it as a sovenier rather than redeeming it --the selling price of the coin / token covers its silver value and a bit more $ in profiet.

Good post Ivan but keep in mind that this coin is not a replica or fake nor was it ever intended to be. The proper word is fantasy. It was never meant to fool anyone.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Sorry SS. I really didnt mean anything. It just seemed that you were either disagreeing with the ID or you didnt read the old replys. Its easy to do because this is a very old thread. I only brought it back up, to post the link I found, which I thought pretty much put the last nail in the coffin. Aa battery agreed but posted the green check in the wrong place.


If you want to keep searching SS thats great. ...or if you think further IDing of the image is needed. I agree completely with you that its a typical Long Cross image found on English coins. But because its not a copy of anything old, (its made from someones imagination), it will never be found where you are looking IMO. These fantasy coins are made here in the USA for SCA re-enactments. This one is marked REGNUM CAIDIS (Kingdom of Caid). http://regnum.sca-caid.org/ http://www.sca-caid.org/

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[lazooro]

Screams modern fake to me.

(but I hope I'm very wrong)

copy from a mile...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Screams modern fake to me.

(but I hope I'm very wrong)

copy from a mile...

Specifically its not a copy and its not a fake. The correct word is fantasy. A lot of work went into solving this mystery. Its been IDed as a modern SCA re-enactment coin made for the imaginary Kingdom of Caid to be used as legal tender at California Renaissance Fairs.. It was never meant to fool anyone although it has some similarities to old English coins.

 

[Iron Patch]

Screams modern fake to me.

(but I hope I'm very wrong)

copy from a mile...

Specifically its not a copy and its not a fake. The correct word is fantasy. A lot of work went into solving this mystery. Its been IDed as a modern SCA re-enactment coin made for the imaginary Kingdom of Caid to be used as legal tender at California Renaissance Fairs.. It was never meant to fool anyone although it has some similarities to old English coins.

Maybe you should read the definition again you posted for fantasy before you continue to argue it's not a fake.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Maybe you should read the definition again you posted for fantasy before you continue to argue it's not a fake.

Hello IP. Wow the last line looks like an oxymoron lol. The definition I posted was from another site and the last sentence can be taken out of context. I deleted it because I see how that last line "copied from the fakers imagination" could confuse somebody. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. 8)


I am simply and pleasantly trying to explain to TN members (that appear not to have read the entire thread) that the ID has been made and the meaning of the common coin terms copy, fake, and fantasy. Instead of posting angry icons, a simple "nice ID" would have sufficed IMO.


The author was referring to some fantasy Alcatraz padlocks that were copied, faked, and missattributed. I still dont think this coin is a fake. Its a genuine modern legal tender silver coin/token from the Rennaissance Fair.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Yes you are correct, I never read the entire thread, or realised that you had dragged a 3 year old post up but it is very difficult to read things that are constantly being removed or edited.

The coin interested me at first, because it looked like a copy of a coin, struck for one of the Low Country Barrons that supported Kings of England in campaigns of conflict. I have seen coins like this before, they are quite rare. That was the only reason for what I posted.

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Yes you are correct, I never read the entire thread, or realised that you had dragged a 3 year old post up but it is very difficult to read things that are constantly being removed or edited.

The coin interested me at first, because it looked like a copy of a coin, struck for one of the Low Country Barrons that supported Kings of England in campaigns of conflict. I have seen coins like this before, they are quite rare. That was the only reason for what I posted.

SS

No problem SS. Maybe you will find a match of the image. But nothing above your post was edited in years that might have confused you. I will go back and correct spelling and grammer errors sometimes (Im not college educated I didnt even finish HS) and I often go over the time limit on long posts (my computer freezes) but I dont change the conversation at a later time or edit out old posts without telling everyone.. That would not be right.

I "dragged up" this old post because I found a link picturing similar SCA silver coins. My research led to the green check on this old thread and there is nothing wrong with that.

SS, you and IP, Ivan and Lazo know much more about coins than I ever will. I only try to help with the oddballs and fantasy stuff. The copy/fake/fantasy explanations were not intended for you. Its for the readers. I figured you guys didnt read it. Its no big deal and I think thats man of you to admit it.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its a good time to post this thread. The results of a survey taken here at TN reveal that only a shocking 50% always read everything before posting a comment and 5% of the readers never even bother to read the post before commenting.

I understand in our fast paced world its hard to read all the replys. Place your votes please just dont get angry at someone else if you dont bother to read before posting.

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[aa battery]