Raybestos EHT Brake Pads/Learning I'm not 30-something yrs old anymore

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Had some noise from factory pads first thing in the morning or anytime the vehicle sat a few hours. Once you apply brakes at low speed gradual it would screech. I got tired of that. There was also a slight grinding noise up front every now and then under slow speeds.
So hearing how outrageous brake jobs are today in price and also not wanting just any old pads used and a premium price charged I decided to do the front myself. It was the first time I've done brakes in over 12 yrs. This is a 2021 vehicle with 53K+ miles on it.

The Raybestos EHT pads are what I went with. I did not replace the rotors because they didn't have any problems. I did give them a nice cleaning, a little scuffing with sandpaper on the outer edges (to remove the accumulated gunk) and then gave the entire inner and outer a scrub with 360 grit sand to remove any old pad material or corrosion. While some say that is not a good idea, having the rotors "turned" is also a risky thing these days. Not everybody knows how to do it correctly. There was a time when I turned my own rotors on a lathe when I was actually a mechanic but that was over 30 years ago. Can't say I trust an auto parts store to turn a rotor. You have to be very precise with it and not go crazy with the amount you take off.
The factory pads on one side part of the pad had chipped off and I assume that was what the noise was in combination with dry abutment clips and weak retaining springs.

I installed the new pads, new abutment clips, and new retaining springs. I normally use Sil-Glyde but this time I used Permatex Ultra Brake grease. The caliper pins seemed very stiff and a little sticky so I removed those, cleaned them and also inside to remove gunk. The factory stuff ha dried up. On one caliper pin I could see visible darkness and it was sort of scorched. I used some fine grit sandpaper on that portion and smoothed that rascal up. Re-installed and checked caliper pin function. It felt like it should- nice smooth travel and no binding.
This is my first time using this particular grease but I liked the green color and consistency of it. It's supposed to be good stuff but time will tell. Torqued the caliper down to 18 ft. lbs (spec is 16-23), and torqued my lug nuts to 81 ft. lbs (spec is 79-94). Bled the system and was finally done. Took her for a ride to test and immediately noticed a difference in steering (it felt free). I guess the old pads had not been releasing fully due to the weak springs and caliper pins not floating free like they should. Did a few bed-in shots and called it a night. Pedal feel is SOLID now versus spongy before.

I have learned a lot about how materials are these days and myself. #1, concrete is not a friendly surface to my body anymore. #2, factory pads even if they have plenty of material left still need to replaced if something is going on. #3, I'm not in my 30's anymore and don't enjoy something like this the way I once did. I'm really feeling the burn today(it's more like a hard beating in numerous parts of the body, LOL), and felt it mid-way through the work yesterday on this. Still, there is satisfaction in doing something yourself using parts you want to have on the vehicle. And you aren't getting ripped off, charged for something they didn't actually use. If it screws up, you can only blame yourself.
The bad news is the back still needs to be done. I have matching Raybestos EHT pads on the way along with a brake hardware kit. Hopefully it will not be as bad as the front due to the engine and all the weight in the front.

Have any of you ever used the Raybestos EHT pads? If so, how many miles did you get out of them? So far (less than 100 miles) these are doing good. Thanks for reading my mini-novel. I had to share it. Maybe someone else will read this and get an idea that will help them.
 

Now day I wear knee pads and use a stool with my tool box right beside me. Brakes are not to bad but the can take some time. I do not have rotors turned anymore just cheaper to buy a new set or one.
 

Sir my hats off to ya.... Now I can't address your questions about the pads your using but I sure the hell can the "I'm not 30 anymore" statement. I used to do all of my mechanic work myself. But anymore I can't work on these engines today and getting up and down from underneath doing brakes kinda hurts. But usually the rears are easier than the fronts... at least I hope so for you.

I had a 2014 Chevy Captiva that started to buck, kick and trying to stall out at coming to a stop. Did it 3 times. Engine light was on. Made appointment to have checked out. Day before appt. light went off and it quit doing it. Right after cancellation 2 days later light back on and symptoms returned. Made another appt. Day before drop off light back off and vehicle running great again. Took in and just told them to change out the cam sensors.... Hope I'm right. It's all done and pick up tomorrow $185.00 later.

But my best to ya sir on those rear brakes....!!!!!!
 

Sir my hats off to ya.... Now I can't address your questions about the pads your using but I sure the hell can the "I'm not 30 anymore" statement. I used to do all of my mechanic work myself. But anymore I can't work on these engines today and getting up and down from underneath doing brakes kinda hurts. But usually the rears are easier than the fronts... at least I hope so for you.

I had a 2014 Chevy Captiva that started to buck, kick and trying to stall out at coming to a stop. Did it 3 times. Engine light was on. Made appointment to have checked out. Day before appt. light went off and it quit doing it. Right after cancellation 2 days later light back on and symptoms returned. Made another appt. Day before drop off light back off and vehicle running great again. Took in and just told them to change out the cam sensors.... Hope I'm right. It's all done and pick up tomorrow $185.00 later.

But my best to ya sir on those rear brakes....!!!!!!
I appreciate your kind words. I'm not "old" but years of abuse on my joints and tendons sure has taken a toll. Lived pretty hard when I was younger and didn't think I'd live to see 30. LOL Well I'm over 50 now and all those "funny" moments of the past where I was reckless I can feel it. Gone are the days of me picking up an engine block (old ford 60's model cast iron) and jerking transmissions out. Boy those were the days. I felt more at home under a hood or underneath a car laid in a drainage ditch.
But the best of times were racing dirt bikes, especially when they kicked your behind. Probably the worst event was on a dirt road, was coming around a curve blind and another dirt biker was coming from the other end. I corrected and that dummy corrected the same way. We both bailed! Boy those rocks are unforgiving though. Never will forget that. went down in the creek and picked the rocks out then rode to the spring and got some clay to pack it with to stop the bleeding. ROFL. Nowadays I wouldn't dare be so crazy. A lot of things we done should have killed us.
 

Well I'm closer to 70 than 69... and my getter up and downer just isn't the same anymore. You'll get there...!!!!! And believe me I KNOW about body abuse when younger. And having more balls than brains didn't help either.

Shoving a 375 H.P. 355 cid engine into a 73' Vegas was a blast to drive...! Raced it a lot. Never got hurt in it. Wish I had it back NOW...! But some other endeavors I did didn't turn out so well. Many broken bones. Glad to hear you survived thus far.... I'm still hanging on.
 

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