Sometimes We Just Need a Good Slap in The Face

Desert Hermit

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Feb 1, 2014
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Randsburg, California
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Hello fellow prospectors, I originally posted this in the treasure hunting forum, oops.

I have a few issues with my latest find that has me doubting and would love to get your opinions.

The first issue is the old saying; "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't." Finding gold deposits in small or microscopic amounts is common, but when faced with what I am looking at here all alarms go off. So here's the story!

First, the find does come from a well known gold producing area that has produced millions of ounces including many 50 oz. and one 160 oz. nugget.
The large quartz outcropping I have located has just recently been uncovered by the summer floods in the desert and has never been worked. The area is not claimed.

I grabbed a few 5 gallon buckets of the ore and covered the area with dirt.

As I said earlier, I'm having a hard time believing this is true because of the size of the find, so I am trying to confirm its' validity in any way possible. I took a few samples to pawn shops to have them test it, the first shop was ran by a very rude man that I had to argue with just to get the test. He applied acid and the acid did not eat the sample. I asked what the acid strength was and the guy said it doesn't matter! OK, jerk! Off to the next one.

At the next shop the attendant was very friendly, the first thing he told me was they do not buy gold in ore form but he would help me out and run the test. He returned and said that it is definitely gold.

The next event that took place has helped to fuel my doubts, this man that just tested the samples told me to go over to another counter and speak with their professional. I told this man about the positive acid test and the first words out of his mouth when he looked at the samples was, "I disagree." After a long conversation I left even more confused than ever.

I have to tell you the truth, I have never doubted the acid test in the past, but now I just have to ask all you old timers and fellow prospectors; "Have you ever seen a case where the acid test was positive but was wrong?"
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Some of the veins are heavily mineralized as seen in the samples on the right, while many of the veins as seen in the samples on the left of the image are filled with very small veins of iron. The heaviest gold? deposits are found in the veins of the left sample.
And here is another image of what one of the ores looks like, no gold in this image, just the clearest image I have of the ore.
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Please feel free to slap me, hit me, or whatever. I'm stuck here and would appreciate any slap, push, poke or joke. :BangHead:
 

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Jeff, thank you. The latest crush and panning didn't look too promising, the only presence of gold that I could confirm was two little pieces 1/6 the size of a grain of rice. I'm crushing the ore so small that I may be creating a situation where it's so small it floats, or it's mostly pyrite. It would take a better panner than I to interpret this in a pan. It could be though that even this small amount would be worth mining for the commercial boys, not for a guy with a hand drill! All may not be lost though, any presence of gold could warrant further investigation. I am also sending off a sample to be fired, that will settle it.
 

Jeff, here's what's going on. I've added the jetdry and whatever it is that is floating dropped. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't pyrite also react the same when we remove the surface tension? The next thing is this, only half of the gold? is floating, but even that which is not does not act right. I'm used to seeing the heavies make its' way to the bottom of the sand, then there's no question. This stuff is hard to shake to the bottom, it'll even hang out at the bottom of the pan right at the top of any sands etc and not move down to the crease at the bottom of the pan. Lots of it just sticks like glue across the entire surface of the pans bottom. No matter how hard I try I can't get the stuff to move to the bottom crease of the pan.
 

Sounds like pyrite to me tho I am no expert. Gold falls amazingly fast when it hits water (think anchor). Even the finest gold will work it's way down in a pan. It may be the sample is telling you to look elsewhere. Just my .02
 

I'm thinking so, you all know my image situation but here's one for the heck of it. The silvery stuff is also all through the pan and looks more like polished stainless steel to me. This is an image without the use of jetdry and was almost able to get these pieces to the bottom crease, they are not floaters.
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hey yall' I'm getting really good at making pyrite pan like gold. :dontknow: by the time I've completed this task, finding the real stuff should be easier. It was no easy task getting all of the stuff in that last photo down near the bottom of the pan! It never really made it all the way down but boy was it close! Lesson learned. There were a couple real ones in the pan but not enough to mess with at this point. For the time being I think I'll look for greener pastures.
 

Is there a college or university that will test your ore for you? You may have already had this suggestion, but if that's not a possibility, you can always ship it off for an assay and then you'll know exactly what your true values are.

When it comes to hardrock, if you can see the gold, that's usually a good sign, as a lot of ore pays values when the gold is microscopic! But, I'm no hardrock specialist--placer is more my game.

As was stated earlier, gold and pyrite will run together. You may just be at the point where you need to have an assay done.

All the best,

Lanny

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/metal-detecting-gold/69-bedrock-gold-mysteries.html
 

Lanny, you and Clay are on the same page on this one, finding any visible gold does warrant further investigation. I have shipped off a sample today for a fire assay, if it confirms gold is present I can move on to other tests to see if it's worth mining. Thank you all for putting up with my craziness during this ordeal, I think I'm settling down now, LOL.

P.S. I also bought a domain name where I can begin sharing this wild ride in search of desert gold. Everyone can watch all the mistakes I make, see all the help I received along the way, and watch Bob's crazy survival in the wild. If nothing else others can put their seat belts on and enjoy some of the crazy videos I'll be making of my outings. I think the sites byline will be "Don't Try This At Home."
 

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