Season finale of Superstition Mountains show....

[markmar]

Julia and partners , reached at some point in their research , the Bull Pass trail . Maybe they were lured by the Palomino mountain which its name is similar to a clue Waltz gave to Julia .
There in the Superstitions , are many places which have included a " horse " word .The irony is how the real deal hasn't a " horse " name attached to it on a topo map , but only is depicted and named in the stone map .

 

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[cactusjumper]

why did she camp at the main mountain?.....probably because she was a total greenhorn and didn't know her rump from a hole in the ground..think about it mick...back then there were no road signs...no markers..most of the places were named by individuals and only they knew the location...we now have road signs and trail markers every where...if you took your average woman and tried to give here directions to find a mine in the superstition wilderness...she probably wouldn't even be able to find the mountain..lol...think about it mick

Hi Dave,

Hope all is well with you and your family,

On her first trip into the range, there was only Julia and Rhiney. Perhaps they were following the directions given to Bicknell, in which case they were doing fairly well. After all, those directions likely came from Julia or Rhiney.......or both. Why did, eventually, Brownie start his most thorough search from the main mountain? Why did Ruth begin his search from the area just below the main mountain? Why do the Stone Maps go right through that area? Why is Harry's cave of gold bars in that area?


Take care,

Joe

 

[wrmickel1]

Hi Dave,

Hope all is well with you and your family,

On her first trip into the range, there was only Julia and Rhiney. Perhaps they were following the directions given to Bicknell, in which case they were doing fairly well. After all, those directions likely came from Julia or Rhiney.......or both. Why did, eventually, Brownie start his most thorough search from the main mountain? Why did Ruth begin his search from the area just below the main mountain? Why do the Stone Maps go right through that area? Why is Harry's cave of gold bars in that area?


Take care,

Joe

It does seam to be a main start point, For the Old Timers I would say. But the new wave sure like to spread the Bulldog Do-do

Wrmickel1

 

[SPARTANOC]

I don't think the show is going to find much at all, Its all about the exploits of the guys to make a show, sorry to burst the bubble of you believers of the legend. Its just not going to be in this show! what is interesting though is the hints of signs and topography the guys see and don't tell here, saving for later maybe? Got to make the series though! Its still makes good TV, I would have done it given the chance. LOL! Beautiful country there even though its hot. Its all in the thrill of the hunt-that's why we are all on T-Net and the guys on the show are just like all of us..Maybe after the show we'll find out what they really learned on their fact finding adventure!!!!

JrMack

Well said; "They're just like all of us", which I would agree with 💯%. This is what everyone here on TN should understand. As much as the series "seemed" fake - I don't believe it really was per say. I've come from the Film Industry and I will admit - production companies want a particular narrative for ratings, but these guys really ARE the real thing. These guys live in this area (Wayne, Frank and Woody) and their drive to find answers are very real. In watching Wayne's videos, as the series continued privately, Wayne explained a lot about what was going on during the series and what the production company did - that didn't sit well with the group involved. They themselves were not happy about certain elements of the show and how it was edited.

With regards to the cross found, again I don't think things were "faked" just for ratings. We now know, the cross was removed by someone after the fact - and the group really has no idea who did it and they were not happy about the result of said missing cross. I also don't believe the wall holding the cross was a built up wall by someone. I think it was a given - that the wall wasn't a walled in seal, intentionally trying to hide something. I get it though, its difficult to see through the production company's "fog of entertainment" and still believe things ARE NOT intentionally placed for a discovery on film. The film industry really does want to give the viewer a perspective that can be considered real, but for the sake of the show - production companies will recreate an incident that they were not privy to film - which can make what you're watching seem fake.

This small group of guys are just that, a small group of guys - just like us. They're curious and intrigued by all the legends that have transpired throughout the last 140 years and I believe Wayne and the gang want to solve some of these legends that, have eluded so many for so long.

As for the things they may be "hiding" or not "sharing" with, shouldn't be a surprise. I find most here on TN, refuse to share their inner secrets of things they've discovered or have come upon during their researching of specific areas within the Supes. Many here can sit at their monitors and point out this and that - but you have to ask; are they themselves out there, pushing through the environment - overcoming obstacles, risking their lives in order to solve these legends like Wayne, Frank and Woody?


Personally, I plan on going out there and meeting up with Wayne. There, I can make my own decision as to - are these guys the real thing or not. I'm one to believe, that these guys though they may seem strange in their ways (who isn't), are in fact honest treasure hunters that, love to explore and discover our historical past and what it comprised of. There is so much disinformation out there, it makes things difficult to sort out what's clearly and historically correct and what's just put in for dramatic story telling.

I wonder if people realize, those that were on the show - roam this site and can see the disappointment of others.

-SpartanOC

 

[SPARTANOC]

Last nig

They aren't bozos - they are just sell-outs to the production company because they were unsuccessful in their ventures in the Superstition Mountains. Have to make all the money they spend on dousing rods and metal detectors back somehow!

I am new here as well, but you will find many members that will defend the actions of their buddies (some of the actors are members here).

I agree with your post, wholeheartedly

RMG1976

Wayne and the others ARE NOT actors. You need to do more homework on who they are. As for what they wear - I will agree with you, that having the right gear is necessary, but those who live in that area, don't feel they need as much equipment as most of us feel we do. Wayne even explained why he wears what he wears, in recent episodes and I tend to agree with his reasoning. As for me, I am equipped with as much gear as I can carry. I explore the San Gabriel Mountains/River on the weekends (I have a full time job during the week, as I am not retired), carrying a 60lbs tactical pack - with the proper clothing that can withstand most anything out there. I try and prepare for almost anything that could occur out in the Wilderness, but I do that - for the simple reasons - being I don't know or are aware of every element of said Mountain. The riskiest element out here are mountain lions - which are prevalent in the canyons, mountains and surrounding suburban housing.

Now, with all that said; I am not an actor, nor do I know these guys personally, but I do feel they're legit in their ventures and I hope to meet up with these guys (I might have that opportunity this October). I too want to solve what's been a mystery for so long and I'm willing to work with the group - or at the very least assist in their discoveries.

-SpartanOC

 

[gollum]

OH MY GOD!
I know everybody involved, and I was in the pilot.

Wayne, Frank, and Woody are real. Wayne and Frank are more the Dutch Hunters, and Woody is a Gold Panner. Still friends to this day.

The production company did some sketchy crap (Fake Jesuit Symbol in the cave, Medicine Wheel, etcetcetc). But that's TV. All ANYBODY has to remember about those shows is that if they have a camera crew, those crewmembers are UNION. They have to have breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They can only be on site for so many hours a day, and a ton of other restrictions.

Buuuuuut, anybody that that wants to search for a treasure based on a TV Show needs to reassess.

Mike

 

[gollum]

One of my all time favorites was a show about The Lost Ship of the Desert down in Laguna Salada. The guys said they had been out there for days ............... STREET SHOES and NO CANTEENS.

 

[sgtfda]

Several times on the show in the first two episodes I pointed to the spot were three million in cobbed gold was found. I was shown the spot by my friend Tom K. The gold was found by Garmin, Travis T and his Uncle Phil. That went right over all the viewers heads. Tom gave me a photo taken by Garmin of Travis and Phil standing in front of the hole before he passed on. The gold was found in a very small cave within a short walking distance from Hewitt Canyon Rd. Wonder if there may be more. The three million was in 50's money.

 

[SPARTANOC]

Several times on the show in the first two episodes I pointed to the spot were three million in cobbed gold was found. I was shown the spot by my friend Tom K. The gold was found by Garmin, Travis T and his Uncle Phil. That went right over all the viewers heads. Tom gave me a photo taken by Garmin of Travis and Phil standing in front of the hole before he passed on. The gold was found in a very small cave within a short walking distance from Hewitt Canyon Rd. Wonder if there may be more. The three million was in 50's money.

sgtfda

I watched the show and DID notice that being stated. I've been hearing lately - to look into Hewitt Canyon. Apparently there are some over there now, working the area - brought there by different stories. Since you know the general are out there, can you confirm this to be true?

-SpartanOC

 

[sgtfda]

Several times on the show in the first two episodes I pointed to the spot were three million in cobbed gold was found. I was shown the spot by my friend Tom K. The gold was found by Garmin, Travis T and his Uncle Phil. That went right over all the viewers heads. Tom gave me a photo taken by Garmin of Travis and Phil standing in from of the hole before he passed on The gold was found in a very small cave within a short walking distance from Hewitt Canyon Rd. Wonder if there may be more. The three million was in 50's money.

sgtfda

I watched the show and DID notice that being stated. I've been hearing lately - to look into Hewitt Canyon. Apparently there are some over there now, working the area - brought there by different stories. Since you know the general are out there, can you confirm this to be true?

-SpartanOC

Why not. You can drive right up to the gold spots. Fill a bucket with gold dirt and off you go. Perfect for old men like me.

 

[sgtfda]

Several times on the show in the first two episodes I pointed to the spot were three million in cobbed gold was found. I was shown the spot by my friend Tom K. The gold was found by Garmin, Travis T and his Uncle Phil. That went right over all the viewers heads. Tom gave me a photo taken by Garmin of Travis and Phil standing in from of the hole before he passed on The gold was found in a very small cave within a short walking distance from Hewitt Canyon Rd. Wonder if there may be more. The three million was in 50's money.

Why not. You can drive right up to the gold spots. Fill a bucket with gold dirt and off you go. Perfect for old men like me.

 

[sgtfda]

 

[sgtfda]

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The two missing Ruth maps. The Ashford map is the area location were we filmed the heart stone on the show. Both of the maps were removed from Ruth's body.

 

[SPARTANOC]

The two missing Ruth maps. The Ashford map is the area location were we filmed the heart stone on the show. Both of the maps were removed from Ruth's body.

Sgtfda

Thank you for sharing, Frank. It is appreciated. Now let us, old men, go forth and collect the 'shinny' in our own special, slow way.

-SpartanOC

 

[sgtfda]

Sgtfda

Thank you for sharing, Frank. It is appreciated. Now let us, old men, go forth and collect the 'shinny' in our own special, slow way.

-SpartanOC

Look for packed gravel. Inch to several feet size along the road. Nice gold can be found under and behind the embedded rocks. I use a gold pan and a gold monster detector. People drive past gold all day and don't have a clue. Most Dutchhunters know zero about prospecting.

 

[SPARTANOC]

Look for packed gravel. Inch to several feet size along the road. Nice gold can be found under and behind the embedded rocks. I use a gold pan and a gold monster detector. People drive past gold all day and don't have a clue. Most Dutchhunters know zero about prospecting.

Sgtfda

I agree - as many just arm themselves ONLY with clues given, and don't understand the environment around the interested area - which could have clues to certain minerals. You've got to have skills that go beyond just what you see in general out there. Just like so many clues for the LDM - they'll go to an area, look around ONLY seeing what's been imprinted in their head - ignoring mineral deposits that can become a good clue. I believe Hunters don't stay with one path at-a-time. They try and look with hidden treasure in mind, all while ignoring the minerals around them - that might elude to something natural (i.e., Gold, silver, etc). You've really got to have an open mind out there - which is what I've seen you and your team do, Frank. Your mind seems to be working outside of what's obviously sitting right in front of others. I think between you and Wayne - you guys catch a lot out there, that most probably miss.

Thank you again for your wisdom. Hope to meet you and the others this year at Rendezvous.
Grace and Peace
-SpartanOC

 

[SPARTANOC]

Look for packed gravel. Inch to several feet size along the road. Nice gold can be found under and behind the embedded rocks. I use a gold pan and a gold monster detector. People drive past gold all day and don't have a clue. Most Dutchhunters know zero about prospecting.

Look for packed gravel. Inch to several feet size along the road. Nice gold can be found under and behind the embedded rocks. I use a gold pan and a gold monster detector. People drive past gold all day and don't have a clue. Most Dutchhunters know zero about prospecting.

Sgtfda

Just to clear up something; you quickly sent 2 maps - while you were discussing Hewitt Canyon. Are the maps in reference to Hewitt canyon - OR - was that two conversations at the same time and you were referring, the maps, to the Heart stone area that was filmed? Sorry for the confusion.
-SpartanOC

 

[sgtfda]

Sgtfda

Just to clear up something; you quickly sent 2 maps - while you were discussing Hewitt Canyon. Are the maps in reference to Hewitt canyon - OR - was that two conversations at the same time and you were referring, the maps, to the Heart stone area that was filmed? Sorry for the confusion.
-SpartanOC

All the same area including the gold and silver mines in the Pitt mine area. If you follow Hewitt Rd you end up in these areas. Gold from top to bottom along with silver and copper. You want to find gold go to where it was found before!

 

[SPARTANOC]

All the same area including the gold and silver mines in the Pitt mine area. If you follow Hewitt Rd you end up in these areas. Gold from top to bottom along with silver and copper. You want to find gold go to where it was found before!

Sgtfda

Outstanding and I agree! Go where its been found before.

Thank you for clarifying my confusion. As an old P.I., I thank you for your investigative wisdom.
-SpartanOC

 

[sgtfda]

Sgtfda

Outstanding and I agree! Go where its been found before.

Thank you for clarifying my confusion. As an old P.I., I thank you for your investigative wisdom.
-SpartanOC

Just follow the true history of the area your interested in.