Season 4

[alec]

It's all about the ratings and I'm sure the History Channel dictates what is show and what is not. They probably watch the ratings and ad revenues closely to see how long it can be stretched and how much fill they can add. The Laginas are trying to solve it but they just have a really weird way about doing it. I don't think there will be any great revelations in the two hour episode, just enough to get you to come back next season.

The cross is the answer to several things, it just has to be used like it was intended. It's not a coincidence that it is there or that it is in the place that it is. It's all about geometry and math.

 

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[Quisp]

I'd love to see a map with all of the same-sized boulders/stones on the island indicated on it. I wonder how many crosses, symbols or other treasure signs you could draw by connecting many of the dots. I'm not sure I buy into the Nolan's Cross theory.

 

[alec]

I'd love to see a map with all of the same-sized boulders/stones on the island indicated on it. I wonder how many crosses, symbols or other treasure signs you could draw by connecting many of the dots. I'm not sure I buy into the Nolan's Cross theory.

There are probably several that you could make if you just wanting to start connecting dots. The thing you have to looks at is the math and the measurements of Nolan's Cross. They are too precise to be coincidence. Using the cross should be simple providing you know where to start and know the angles and distances. Here is a simple version of a map for you. I used the markings from the history channel and then rotated the cross based on my own starting point, something I determined from other things. You can see that one end point of the cross falls onto the spot they have marked as the location as the money pit. Granted, they are guessing about that location but they shouldn't be too far off and if they were using exact measurements of the cross it's my opinion that would put them on the spot.

 

[Mike Mercury]

It's all about the ratings and I'm sure the History Channel dictates what is show and what is not. They probably watch the ratings and ad revenues closely to see how long it can be stretched and how much fill they can add.

and it's the production company that schedules these appearances on on other TV shows. The Laginas are probably contracted to do whatever... and go where-ever... they are told to, and are forbid from any promoting on their own. TV series these days are not just a camera man showing up and saying "how'd ya like to bee on tee vee?"

 

[Quisp]

I think that if you "cherry-pick" which stones to use, you could make any design you want. How big is each stone? Lets see a map of every similar sized stones. I'd love to see just how precise the measurements actually are if they were to sight a laser along each line. Does the line go through the center of each stone or just graze it. Maybe a stone is just close enough to count it as being in-line. Are there other stones near each point that could have been used if they fit the line better? If they are saying it's too precise for coincidence, then it better be dead-nuts centered on each stone and they should be able to show us that.

 

[alec]

Fred Nolan did a precise survey of the cross, he was after all a surveyor. His measurements and how he arrived at them are on the internet in just about anything dealing with Oak Island. The show isn't going to show you all of that information because one, I'm sure some pinhead at the History Channel would deem it too boring for TV (because they know nothing of treasure hunting) and two, Fred Nolan probably was very specific with what he would let the History Channel show on TV.

Yes, you can find rocks/boulders/trees and start making dots and lines and come up with all kinds of designs, probably even some with good math to them and I have seen lots of treasure hunters do this. They also end up running around in circles spending years trying to figure out something that doesn't actually exist. In my opinion, the cross was laid out by man and was intended to be used to find things with. Not every rock in a layout has to be identical for it to be part of the layout. The rocks in the cross are approximately the same size which to me, would make them a viable clue once you figure in the math and angles.

 

[sasquash]

I think Season 5 is filmed and in production. This is why season 4 is so boring. If you can have access to recent aerial map you probably see what's is going on ...

 

[Robot]

The Critics on this Thread...Will Watch Oak Island on TV...Until The Cows Come Home!



Still Number One...With a Bullet!




History Channel’s “The Curse of Oak Island” and USA’s “WWE Smackdown” tied for the top spot in the Tuesday cable ratings this week, with both programs scoring a 0.9 rating in adults 18-49. However, “Curse of Oak Island” had more total viewers with 3.2 million tuning in, compared to “Smackdown’s” 2.6 million.

Show	Net	Time	Total Viewers (000s)	18-49 rating
CURSE OF OAK ISLAND	HISTORY	9:00 PM	3,200	0.9
WWE SMACKDOWN	USA	8:00 PM	2,626	0.9
HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTS	OWN	9:00 PM	2,579	0.7
SP FIXER UPPER	HOME	9:00 PM	2,882	0.7
MOONSHINERS	DISC	9:00 PM	1,645	0.6
FORGED IN FIRE	HISTORY	10:03 PM	1,631	0.6
REAL HOUSEWIVES OF BEVERLY HILLS	BRAVO	9:00 PM	1,552	0.6
TABOO	FX	10:00 PM	1,123	0.4
CHALLENGE: INVASION	MTV	9:00 PM	651	0.4
BEING MARY JANE SR	BET	10:00 PM	958	0.4

 

[Quisp]

I have no doubt in Fred Nolan's surveying capabilities. But, he was a surveyor with the belief that there was a treasure to be found. That skews his point of view no matter how good a surveyor he was. Can you point me to a site with accurate higher resolution map showing the survey marks/lines for the island. There must be one with all the points of interest, not just the stones that make up the cross. All I have seen are hand drawn cartoony looking maps or google earth maps like the one you posted with lines that are so fat they would be 10 feet in width if laid out on the ground. They probably cross numerous rocks along the way and would hit even more if extended in either direction. Even then, the rocks don't seem to line up with "percision" like they are claimed to.

 

[skybolt]

I think Season 5 is filmed and in production. This is why season 4 is so boring. If you can have access to recent aerial map you probably see what's is going on ...

I thought the show was filmed during the summer approximately 4 to 5 months before the first season episode air date. I just assumed that Season 5 will be filmed in the summer of 2017.

 

[gazzahk]

I thought the show was filmed during the summer approximately 4 to 5 months before the first season episode air date. I just assumed that Season 5 will be filmed in the summer of 2017.

Yep.. They cannot do anything in the winter the whole place is frozen..

 

[sasquash]

I thought the show was filmed during the summer approximately 4 to 5 months before the first season episode air date. I just assumed that Season 5 will be filmed in the summer of 2017.

Maybe they were filming until october for the next season. This will save $$$ because the equipment is there.

 

[gazzahk]

Maybe they were filming until october for the next season. This will save $$$ because the equipment is there.

I suppose is they do find the treasure hoard and need to dig it out more it would make sense to do it straight away when all the equipment is still there.

 

[gazzahk]

The Critics on this Thread...Will Watch Oak Island on TV...Until The Cows Come Home!

Those high ratings are because everyone is watching to see if they actually get the treasure. If they try another season of inviting loonies to tell us about their own pet theories I think the ratings would fall off pretty quick.

If there is another short season with them recovering the treasure they find at the end of this season... I imagine they will get ratings...

 

[alec]

I have no doubt in Fred Nolan's surveying capabilities. But, he was a surveyor with the belief that there was a treasure to be found. That skews his point of view no matter how good a surveyor he was. Can you point me to a site with accurate higher resolution map showing the survey marks/lines for the island. There must be one with all the points of interest, not just the stones that make up the cross. All I have seen are hand drawn cartoony looking maps or google earth maps like the one you posted with lines that are so fat they would be 10 feet in width if laid out on the ground. They probably cross numerous rocks along the way and would hit even more if extended in either direction. Even then, the rocks don't seem to line up with "percision" like they are claimed to.

I don't think a map like you are wanting exists. If it does it would have had to been made back in the 1800's before they started destroying the island and the clues on it.

The lines I put on the photo I posted were put there just to show the cross. I understand what you are saying about the width and the spots however the photo was posted as a general visual aid and not as a precise document. To say that Nolan's survey was skewed because of his point of view as a treasure hunter is a broad generalization of all treasure hunters being cloud readers, which is simply untrue and biased on your part. As a professional surveyor Nolan would know that skewing his results would end up screwing him in finding what he was searching for. I doubt he spent all of those years living on the island just so he could do bad surveys.

Since I have never been on Oak Island I have to work with the known information I can find. There certainly seems to be more information indicating the survey of the cross is correct than not. Based on that information I believe Nolan's Cross is a viable clue to the treasure just as I believe there is a treasure still there. You obviously don't believe that. You could ask permission to take your own survey of the cross and see how it is laid out but using your own analogy, your results would be skewed because you already don't believe the cross is a clue.

The whole point of treasure hunting is finding and interpreting the clues. It's a trial and error process in most cases and being a treasure hunter doesn't necessarily mean what you interpret is wrong just because you are wanting to find treasure.

 

[Robot]

It May Be Better Having Treasure Seekers Input... Then Back Stabbing "Critics" Input!

Those high ratings are because everyone is watching to see if they actually get the treasure. If they try another season of inviting loonies to tell us about their own pet theories I think the ratings would fall off pretty quick.

If there is another short season with them recovering the treasure they find at the end of this season... I imagine they will get ratings...

"Then Maybe We Will Have Season 5"

 

[gazzahk]

The whole point of treasure hunting is finding and interpreting the clues. It's a trial and error process in most cases and being a treasure hunter doesn't necessarily mean what you interpret is wrong just because you are wanting to find treasure.

You do raise an interesting point... But what I learned when I did my MBA (marketing class) is that:

People will believe any lie for one of two reasons.

1. They want it to be true or 2. They are afraid it might be true...

This is the reason that lies and rumors spread so fast and are so hard to kill off.

It is debatable whether Fred and Dan have 'wasted' their lives on OI searching for a treasure that may never had existed or whether they have had 'full and meaningful lives' with purpose..

Even if the brothers pull treasure out of the ground it would have to be considerable to give a decent return on the investment outlaid..

Even if Nolan Cross is man made it does not necessarily have anything to do with treasure. Joy Steele gives an interesting take on the cross in her book that has nothing to do with treasure....

 

[Robot]

24 Minutes into the Show...And Again They Are Stating... My Theory!

http://xmovies8.ru/movie/the-curse-of-oak-island-season4-2016/watching.html

Again... They refer to My Theory that it was the British Navy Freemasons that were responsible for the Treasure on Oak Island.

1762 ad and they infer the wood samples support this.

One More Hole to Dig...And then Maybe they are ready to dig where the Treasure was Located.

 

[Quisp]

I don't think a map like you are wanting exists. If it does it would have had to been made back in the 1800's before they started destroying the island and the clues on it.

If no proof is available, then let's stop saying they are precisely lined up. You are just repeating what others have said without proof.

I don't think a map like you are wanting exists. If it does it would have had to been made back in the 1800's before they started destroying the island and the clues on it.
To say that Nolan's survey was skewed because of his point of view as a treasure hunter is a broad generalization of all treasure hunters being cloud readers, which is simply untrue and biased on your part. As a professional surveyor Nolan would know that skewing his results would end up screwing him in finding what he was searching for. I doubt he spent all of those years living on the island just so he could do bad surveys.

Fred Nolan MOVED to the island to pursue the treasure and remained there until his death. He is not like all treasure hunters, he is the extreme example of one. That will skew anyone's point of view.

You obviously don't believe that. You could ask permission to take your own survey of the cross and see how it is laid out but using your own analogy, your results would be skewed because you already don't believe the cross is a clue.

As they say 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". It is not up to me to find the evidence myself.

Trust me, I want to believe but I just see the same clues & stories repeated over and over without any proof to back any of them up. It's like the Telephone Game. The treasure hunters through the years whisper in the ears of the next generation of treasure hunters and the search continues.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

http://xmovies8.ru/movie/the-curse-of-oak-island-season4-2016/watching.html

Again... They refer to My Theory that it was the British Navy Freemasons that were responsible for the Treasure on Oak Island.

1762 ad and they infer the wood samples support this.

One More Hole to Dig...And then Maybe they are ready to dig where the Treasure was Located.

100% of all theories stating that there is treasure on oak island are 100% wrong. There is no treasure and never has been...