Season 4

When they brought up the last large pieces of wood...I have to wonder why they didn't use the clam digger again to see if the hit more dirt or fell a distance first before hitting the bottom of the tunnel. If the tunnel was being dug over to the vault, couldn't it be that was where the water was coming from and if it was, then there may have been some kind of artifact washed into the tunnel they might retrieve. Of course they 'may' have done that and it just wasn't part of the show if they found nothing

What if they capped that pipe off and pressurized it to drive the water back out, large volume of air needed, but not that much pressure to move the water. Just like a giant bubble underground that they could drop a camera in to see what's down there.

They always seem to give up to easy and move on to the next 'hot' spot...
 

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HunterNC said:
Can someone please refresh my memory. When they did the 6 inch bore hole, didnt they get a layer of concrete over the wood. They dig the same spot, see the bore hole, but only get wood. Do I remember this right?
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The 'concrete' was not confirmed as concrete (looked like). My memory is also not great but I thought when they got that wood dated (from there core sample) it was much older then the mid 20th centaury. They are assuming that the hole they see drilled in the wood is the hole they made. If so then the earlier dating they claimed must be wrong (Unless Chappel's son was using hundreds of year old planks).

It would seem very unlikely that they actually found the original vault in there core sample and the tunnel they have now found is different wood. Still I hope they address the anomaly of the wood dating. They may be wrongly assuming the drilled hole in the wood is made by them..
 

Roadhse2 said:
When they brought up the last large pieces of wood...I have to wonder why they didn't use the clam digger again to see if the hit more dirt or fell a distance first before hitting the bottom of the tunnel. If the tunnel was being dug over to the vault, couldn't it be that was where the water was coming from and if it was, then there may have been some kind of artifact washed into the tunnel they might retrieve. Of course they 'may' have done that and it just wasn't part of the show if they found nothing

What if they capped that pipe off and pressurized it to drive the water back out, large volume of air needed, but not that much pressure to move the water. Just like a giant bubble underground that they could drop a camera in to see what's down there.

They always seem to give up to easy and move on to the next 'hot' spot...
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I don't think that would work if the water has a direct link to the ocean the air could escape from multiple places. I do agree that sending a camera down (or at least a sonar image device) is probably a good idea once the mud has settled and they can see something.
 

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Here is the video of them finding the core sample (season2 )



Does anyone remember the age they said the core sample they took was meant to be?
 

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For everyone complaining about the show, I think it's important to understand what they're doing.

The Lagina's put some of their money up front to partner with Blankenship etc. sure. But they never had any intention of spending millions of their own money to dig up the island. That would have to come from somewhere else. A reality show. Of course, no show will give them enough money unless they could prove they can build an audience, so we get a short season 1. Then a bit more in season 2 and 3, ever increasing ratings to eventually becoming the #1 show on Tuesdays.

Now, they not only have the ratings they need but they are also generating enormous interest in Nova Scotia and Oak Island, so the government is also handing them cash to drive tourism. Voila, they now have enough money to do some serious digging. The exact thing that most wanted them to do since season 1.

So why do we get so much filler and kooks showing up with their wacky conspiracy theories? To drive the ratings aspect. A large portion of viewers are likely the Ancient Aliens crowd or Hunting Aliens or whatever it is. Also, some of the others like Zena Halpern are brought on to provide filler, alternative theories. Exactly why we come to these forums, to listen to theories.

The bounce around from project to project so much due to editing. The filming is all done over a couple of months in the Summer. Also, they've stated many times that they need to get permits after finding anything new like the "hatch", which take a few weeks to get. So they bounce to something else for a while. Take a trip to Scotland, bring a metal detecting dude up from Florida etc.

Ultimately, these guys are smart. They're doing exactly what most interested in the island want. A surgical approach to exploring the various theories. They just found another way to pay for the enormous cost. Oscillators aren't cheap!

Do they appear to be bumbling a bit? Sure, they aren't experts. Some of them are real mistakes. Some of it is editing.

Do they fully explore every opportunity? Perhaps not. Dating the cross from the sisters seems like an obvious step. But perhaps they did off camera or perhaps it was a clear fake and they decided to just leave it at that instead of exposing a couple of old ladies as frauds.

They certainly seem to have demonstrated that they're committed to finding real answers if it's possible and respecting everyone involved past and present, while also following all of the government's requirements.

I wish they wouldn't do BS stuff like tease that they found the 90 foot stone just to end up exploring the basement of a typical Halifax building. But that's the deal they had to make with the producers to get the funding for that massive equipment, I'll take it.

I was on the Island as a kid in the 80's and it was a mess. Old equipment everywhere. Place looked like a dump. At least the Lagina's are trying to find answers while respecting the place.

I don't think they'll ever find anything but more questions but as someone who's been fascinated with the story and history for most of my life, I'm glad they're trying and have found a way to make it financially feasible.

I've read all 75 pages of the previous thread and all of this one. I love the theories and banter as well as occasionally learning something new that is actually documented as proof. Please keep it up, all of you. But since about half of it is just bashing the Lagina's or the show, I felt I had to get my thoughts out there.

Cheers!

Rab
 

Notice anything odd about the core sample pic? The strands are all lengthwise in the coring bit...

The wood timber they brought up with the hole in it was across the grain of the timber, so can't be the same as where the core sample came out of...
 

rabidus said:
I was on the Island as a kid in the 80's and it was a mess. Old equipment everywhere. Place looked like a dump.
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This what amazes me about the swamp. All those treasure hunters, all that rubbish and nothing has been dumped in the swamp which is just next to the site...
 

gazzahk said:
This what amazes me about the swamp. All those treasure hunters, all that rubbish and nothing has been dumped in the swamp which is just next to the site...
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Great point! Yeah, there was tons of stuff laying around. I'd imagine the swamp got its fair share of junk.

That being said, there are reports that Nolan found 3 empty chests in the swamp. Any documented proof of that? It would go a long way to backing up the Sisters.
 

rabidus said:
Great point! Yeah, there was tons of stuff laying around. I'd imagine the swamp got its fair share of junk.

That being said, there are reports that Nolan found 3 empty chests in the swamp. Any documented proof of that? It would go a long way to backing up the Sisters.
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Yep

The Blockhouse Blog - The Oak Island Compendium

That is interesting

It does add weight to the sisters story

Thanks for that!
 

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HunterNC said:
Can someone please refresh my memory. When they did the 6 inch bore hole, didnt they get a layer of concrete over the wood. They dig the same spot, see the bore hole, but only get wood. Do I remember this right?
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The concrete they found the first time they drilled was like everything else found so far in the holes, debris from previous excavations...
 

I am just curious, with the new hole that they just dug that they stopped at after they brought up some wood. If they bored through the top of the "vault'', wouldn't sea water flood the newly drilled hole? It seems wise that they stopped, and hopefully considered finding a way to plug the tunnels that lead from the ocean.
 

they didn't find a Vault.
The wood they brought up Proved they only Bored into Old Diggings.
there is no logical reason to go on there.
 

The author here does offers a strong argument in support of the two sisters story The Blockhouse Blog - The Oak Island Compendium I certainly now believe there is a strong chance the sisters were telling the truth.

1. This story of the sisters and the cross was first reported in 2007 (long before The Curse of Oak Island show)
2. The 1929 newspaper item shown has another descendent claiming that treasure was found
3. Reports and claims from descendants of a treasure map and lost gold coins destroyed in a fire on the island
4. The 1991 newspaper article
In or around 1925, his grandmother showed him a wooden trunk containing about 25 heavy white canvas bags of gold. His grandmother was Lucy Vaughan, relative of Anthony Vaughan, one of the diggers of 1795. The trunk was said to have come from Oak Island. At some point, Uncle Edward Vaughan took the trunk, and disappeared, leaving his property, business, wife, and family.
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5. That the original boys who found the pit went from farmers to having the money to buy up oak island (which they did)
6. Fred Nolan found 3 oak chests in the swamp in the 1980’s (exactly what the boys were meant to have found - ie found chests, dump them in swamp, put the treasure in less obvious bags to take home)
7. That other remnants of the treasure then the cross still exist
This evening Kel Hancock spoke with the daughter of Jean McGinnis from her home in the US Virgin Islands. He's been in contact with his American cousins for several months but, due to an non-disclosure agreement with the producers of The Curse of Oak Island, they were not able to comment on the gold cross until now. Some preliminary information we can share based on this conversation is that the gold cross wasn't the only item handed down in that branch of the family. There was also reportedly, a gold nugget, a gold chain and, a gold coin, recovered from the same treasure trove.
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A very interesting article well worth a read

I think it is very difficult to just claim the two women are lying about the cross and there is no chance they are telling the truth.

At the very least I would think there seems to be significant evidence that the strory has a basis of truth in it.

Therefore I again ‘wonder’ why the brothers have never investigated these ‘leads’ in greater detail. As stated earlier I believe they do not wish it to be true as it therefore makes all the other things they are doing largely pointless.

The treasure left Oak Island the day the pit was found….
 

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jeff of pa said:
they didn't find a Vault.
The wood they brought up Proved they only Bored into Old Diggings.
there is no logical reason to go on there.
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Do you remember what age the core sample from season 2 was carbon dated from? I thought I remembered it was from the 1700's (not sure I remember this correctly)

I have searched extensively on the net and cannot find any reference to the carbon dating of the core sample.

If it was dated before mid 20th Century that must mean ether

a) The wood they have now brought up is not the same as the wood the core sample was taken from
b) The carbon dating of there core sample was not accurate
c) They lied about the dating of the core sample
 

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I was doing some further looking for more info re the chests Fred Nolan found

Nolan made a number of interesting discoveries on his property. These discoveries include:
◾Four stone cairns, located on Oak Island’s northeastern hilltop, which appear to form two triangles, one pointing west towards the swamp, and the other pointing northwest towards Joudrey’s Cove.
◾A number of drilled rocks similar to the ones discovered by Oak Island treasure hunter Gilbert Hedden in 1937.
◾A number of rocks with metal ringbolts embedded in them.
◾The Old Well, a well located at the edge of the Oak Island swamp.
◾Parts of a ship’s spar in the Oak Island swamp.
◾A ship’s scuppers in the Oak Island swamp.
◾Sandstone survey markers.
◾The remains of three ancient oak chests in the Oak Island swamp.
◾Various marked rocks and stone strutures.
◾Nolan’s Cross.
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The Curse of Oak Island- Season 4, Episode 3: Swamp Things - Canada History and Mysteries
 

gazzahk said:
Do you remember what age the core sample from season 2 was carbon dated from? I thought I remembered it was from the 1700's (not sure I remember this correctly)

I have searched extensively on the net and cannot find any reference to the carbon dating of the core sample.

If it was dated before mid 20th Century that must mean ether

a) The wood they have now brought up is not the same as the wood the core sample was taken from
b) The carbon dating of there core sample was not accurate
c) They lied about the dating of the core sample
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The wood could very well be from 1700. If the tree was cut down 200 years later it would have already been aged. The cambium layer is the area that would be renewed and is often sap wood and not used to make lumber of any quality.
 

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Just thought I would add for people who want to see the cross

OI-Gold.jpg

To see the interview with the descendants

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x...eason-3-episode-13-secrets-and-revelations_tv

Scroll through until 26 mins
 

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