Season 12

[BennyV]

He (TruthbeTold) does care. And he obviously enjoys watching the show as many do. Him or anybody doesn't have to believe the show is based in any way in factional truth or facts. It's just scripted for entertainment purposes in pursuit of something. If you or anybody actually believes the show may be based in some type of truth than please feel free to state the facts supporting your view. Some folks (most) don't view the show as in any "true reality".

This show isn't a documentary of some known lost pirate treasure or some treasure from the Knights Templar now. It's just a scripted show for entertainment and if some actually believe that it is real then I guess they don't like to hear anything that invades their reality belief. Some people post what the show actually showed (along with shown/known history) and those that "believe" it's real post what they believe as "factual".

It's easier to post from the entertainment viewpoint and share. Apparently TruthbeTold is in that camp and reports each week what he feels again happened. It's now been going on for so long some of the scripted shows just seems like re-runs to most. So to say "For someone who doesn't care..." is approaching it from the viewpoint that it's a real treasure hunt not a scripted show viewpoint.

If you believe this show is actually real than just enjoy but there's other viewpoints that it's not.

There’s no point in posting facts to be shot down by naysayers who sit in their armchairs all day endlessly ranting away on forums.

The show is entertainment and there is some truth to the tales, perhaps truth should find a hobby and maybe you should as well.

I’m trying to see some posts from the last time either of you actually swung a detector, but I’m not seeing much.

Happy hunting.

 

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[Limitool]

There’s no point in posting facts to be shot down by naysayers who sit in their armchairs all day endlessly ranting away on forums.

The show is entertainment and there is some truth to the tales, perhaps truth should find a hobby and maybe you should as well.

I’m trying to see some posts from the last time either of you actually swung a detector, but I’m not seeing much.

Happy hunting.

Well BennyV your one of those who believe somebody buried something really really deep in the ground I see. Or your hoping someone did and the brothers find it. I hope they find something of value also. But all I keep seeing are artifacts from past folks being there. You can go most anyplace and find that kind of evidence. This has gone on now for so long that there coming up with different angles to keep folks interested.

If you believe there's some truth to the tales.... which tale do you believe in the most...? You got several to choice from. I've never shot anybody's factual based posting down ever. But don't think I'm going to believe something that "somebody" states as fact. Do you have a clue why they called the opening in the swamp a "vault like feature"? Then remarkably a map appears the next week showing the "vault like feature"...!!! Do you believe that just magically happened....? Wouldn't you say it's in the script?

As far as a hobby... hell I've done hobbies and high-end endeavors my whole life. At 70 I'm starting to slow down a little. I retired at age 49 and have had a blast. I build toy boxes for donation and for sale. Built over 750 now. I have no problem taking 2-3K and going gambling. Building a mini home now for my girlfriends 90 year old father. Shot professional archery for about 4-5 years also. I got hobbies covered but thanks for the suggestion.

I haven't swung the detector much since I discovered a cave close behind my home. That's a story in itself. I shared a lot of it here on Tnet. Would love to share more about it but not in my best interest.

So if you believe in this O.I. tale feel free. Post what you think is real. If I or anybody doesn't agree it's no harm to you or anyone. If you want to converse with only those who believe it's real just hit the ignore button and their gone....!

 

[Carl-NC]

This reminds me of soap opera actors who get berated by fans of the show who are so immersed in it that they've lost touch with the fact that none of it is real. Soap operas are fiction. The Curse of Oak Island is fiction. Even if you believe that OI has some kind of treasure, the activities on the TV show are not designed to find any treasure. They are designed to sell 30-second ads. As long as they can do that, the show will continue.

 

[TruthbeTold]

There’s no point in posting facts to be shot down by naysayers who sit in their armchairs all day endlessly ranting away on forums.

The show is entertainment and there is some truth to the tales, perhaps truth should find a hobby and maybe you should as well.

I’m trying to see some posts from the last time either of you actually swung a detector, but I’m not seeing much.

Happy hunting.

I’ve never seen anyone post factual evidence that any one of the 1000’s of theories posted here are true.

All of the scammers including the mcguiness brothers have never been able to provide factual evidence that some treasure of great magnitude was ever buried on the island.

There have been many instances of factual evidence debunking the existence of the treasure such as the fake 90 foot stone, Dan Blankenship lying about what was actually in bore hole 10x and even admitting in a since edited episode that no treasure ever existed.

If anyone can provide a single piece of actual evidence that a treasure did exist on the island, I’d love to see it.

Until then I’ll keep posting and exposing the various scams.

 

[n2mini]

In MY opinion the 90' stone has never truly been debunked. As the story goes too many people saw it in and around town for it to not have been a real stone. Sure it might have been etched & placed there by a searcher but I feel it was there and got past around by a few different people and eventually lost.. No way I can prove it but no way anyone can disprove the stories of people seeing it.. As well I don't believe Dan B was lying about what he thought he saw in his hole. He didn't touch any of it and wouldn't have had good vision when he was down there in his make shift bore hole at that time he could barely fit thru and almost didn't make it back up from.. He "thought" he saw the shapes of things which later when the Lagina's diver went down even he couldn't see but was having to feel his way around.. I think poor ole Dan after having spent half his life and most of his money in the search was exhausted and once he couldn't go on any more in the search he had to come to grips with that, just as his son did a hand full of years later and not let it consume their lives anymore.. Made it easier to just think there never was a treasure left anywhere to find..

 

[Limitool]

The whole tale from the get go just defies any logic to me. Who and why would bury something 100+ ft. deep? That's hard to get by in itself. Who invented that tale and why was it accepted as "fact"? And why would ANYONE then believe that? And even after all these years and countless holes dug some still believe something of value is buried. I seek to understand why...?

Then throw in "flood tunnels". Why the hell would anyone need flood tunnels after burying something 100+ ft. deep. Whoever buried something that deep and then installed flood tunnels obviously weren't coming back. "If".... you believe that why...?

Everybody gets why the brothers are now doing it as that's obvious. Doing a scripted show with TV brings in a lot of revenue through advertising. Being labeled a "naysayer" means (I guess) that your "attacking" the believers. For me I'm not trying to do that... I seek to understand what's left to believe except in the changing themes.

If the believers are just hanging onto hope.... That's all I got also. I have absolutely no facts in which to hang onto.

 

[n2mini]

Keep in mind that the first 5 years I think it was the Lagina Clan were on the island there was no show. They footed the bill for everything they did. ( what ever that was ) They supposedly spent upwards of 15 Million dollars to buy up land rights to be able to do any searching from various land owners and Dan B himself.. It was only a few of them even the first few years of the show. Now it is a family business with more showing up every year to draw an easy paycheck. Even the daughter of Gary Drayton is on there now to draw a pay check. She does ALOT of standing around just doing the ole Grin n Nod thing on camera...
Maybe they did or didn't have some kind of deal that if and or when they got the rights to search the island the show would come in to film, who knows how all that came about...

 

[FreeBirdTim]

The good news is the ratings for the show are tanking, so maybe this will be the last season of this nonsense. The bad news is the fact that it's still the highest rated program on The History Channel...


https://ustvdb.com/networks/history/shows/curse-oak-island/

 

[TruthbeTold]

In MY opinion the 90' stone has never truly been debunked. As the story goes too many people saw it in and around town for it to not have been a real stone. Sure it might have been etched & placed there by a searcher but I feel it was there and got past around by a few different people and eventually lost.. No way I can prove it but no way anyone can disprove the stories of people seeing it.. As well I don't believe Dan B was lying about what he thought he saw in his hole. He didn't touch any of it and wouldn't have had good vision when he was down there in his make shift bore hole at that time he could barely fit thru and almost didn't make it back up from.. He "thought" he saw the shapes of things which later when the Lagina's diver went down even he couldn't see but was having to feel his way around.. I think poor ole Dan after having spent half his life and most of his money in the search was exhausted and once he couldn't go on any more in the search he had to come to grips with that, just as his son did a hand full of years later and not let it consume their lives anymore.. Made it easier to just think there never was a treasure left anywhere to find..

The stone passed around that people saw was the fake stone created by scammers.

If you are saying that because a fake stone was seen by people proves the 90 foot stone was real, that’s no different than the bs said on the lagina’s tv show.

If the stone was real it would have not been thrown in the trash, used as an anvil in a leather bindery shop, and then used as a stone in a basement wall.

 

[N/A]

The prediction for next week’s fictional episode is:

a) Keep digging holes and referring to the “original depositors”
b) Find more common items
c) Introduce yet another new fictional theory
d) Take common iron objects to a blacksmith who can always date their age to within 6 months
e) The cast will fight to hold back bursting out laughing whenever something is said within the group
f) Continue to prove that there never was a treasure on the island.

Damn you figured it out, I guess you can stop torturing yourself with the show and move on to something else

What the hell does "common sense" have to do with watching something. Nobody who watches O.I. actually believes somebody buried something 100-150ft. to be found centuries later. That's like not watching the "Wizard of Oz" because it's not real. We all watch to see what they'll say and twist in reference to something buried over 100' as they claim. It's just entertainment is all. It's like watching shows about UFO's, Bigfoot and/or Loch Ness. There just scripted shows for entertainment. No common sense required. You don't have to believe in the folly to watch it. It doesn't have to be real to watch something.

Nobody is whining about watching. And what the hell difference does it make how much money someone makes on the show or on the court...? I'm happy they hit on something they can keep going and make money at. Gilligan's Island ran for years, no common sense required and sorry but nobody believed it was real also. It may be none of our business how much they earn but it's publicly known and shared.

So I advise you to stick to your method of changing the channel if you don't like a show as most people do without these words of wisdom. It's just another scripted TV show like most of them for viewing entertainment. If you happen to believe it's all true then bless your heart, grab the popcorn, buckle up and enjoy...! Again... it's watched for entertainment. That's why it is watched.

Hey... maybe you with all the common sense knows what a "vault like feature is...?" Could it be...?

when did they (anyone related to the show) lay the stone road through the swamp area, how is that fake?

He (TruthbeTold) does care. And he obviously enjoys watching the show as many do. Him or anybody doesn't have to believe the show is based in any way in factional truth or facts. It's just scripted for entertainment purposes in pursuit of something. If you or anybody actually believes the show may be based in some type of truth than please feel free to state the facts supporting your view. Some folks (most) don't view the show as in any "true reality".

This show isn't a documentary of some known lost pirate treasure or some treasure from the Knights Templar now. It's just a scripted show for entertainment and if some actually believe that it is real then I guess they don't like to hear anything that invades their reality belief. Some people post what the show actually showed (along with shown/known history) and those that "believe" it's real post what they believe as "factual".

It's easier to post from the entertainment viewpoint and share. Apparently TruthbeTold is in that camp and reports each week what he feels again happened. It's now been going on for so long some of the scripted shows just seems like re-runs to most. So to say "For someone who doesn't care..." is approaching it from the viewpoint that it's a real treasure hunt not a scripted show viewpoint.

If you believe this show is actually real than just enjoy but there's other viewpoints that it's not.

He only enjoys coming on here to berate and bully everyone with a different view than he has

Well BennyV your one of those who believe somebody buried something really really deep in the ground I see. Or your hoping someone did and the brothers find it. I hope they find something of value also. But all I keep seeing are artifacts from past folks being there. You can go most anyplace and find that kind of evidence. This has gone on now for so long that there coming up with different angles to keep folks interested.

If you believe there's some truth to the tales.... which tale do you believe in the most...? You got several to choice from. I've never shot anybody's factual based posting down ever. But don't think I'm going to believe something that "somebody" states as fact. Do you have a clue why they called the opening in the swamp a "vault like feature"? Then remarkably a map appears the next week showing the "vault like feature"...!!! Do you believe that just magically happened....? Wouldn't you say it's in the script?

As far as a hobby... hell I've done hobbies and high-end endeavors my whole life. At 70 I'm starting to slow down a little. I retired at age 49 and have had a blast. I build toy boxes for donation and for sale. Built over 750 now. I have no problem taking 2-3K and going gambling. Building a mini home now for my girlfriends 90 year old father. Shot professional archery for about 4-5 years also. I got hobbies covered but thanks for the suggestion.

I haven't swung the detector much since I discovered a cave close behind my home. That's a story in itself. I shared a lot of it here on Tnet. Would love to share more about it but not in my best interest.

So if you believe in this O.I. tale feel free. Post what you think is real. If I or anybody doesn't agree it's no harm to you or anyone. If you want to converse with only those who believe it's real just hit the ignore button and their gone....!

Like I said, you guys are only here to berate and bully other who have different views than you.

Why not just let it be and move on? My guess is that your life is meaningless and this is a way to try and make a name for yourself instead of enjoying retirement and minding your own business

 

[Limitool]

Damn you figured it out, I guess you can stop torturing yourself with the show and move on to something else

when did they (anyone related to the show) lay the stone road through the swamp area, how is that fake?

He only enjoys coming on here to berate and bully everyone with a different view than he has

Like I said, you guys are only here to berate and bully other who have different views than you.

Why not just let it be and move on? My guess is that your life is meaningless and this is a way to try and make a name for yourself instead of enjoying retirement and minding your own business

Who the hell said everything they find is fake..? I didn't. How is a stone road fake...? I don't have a clue. I seriously doubt anyone from the show laid it. Probably people from long ago needed it to unload heavy cargo from ships that docked there. But that's just a guess. They probably left MANY artifacts around the island as all humans do when they inhabit a area for a longer length of time.

With all that said above what does that have to do with something buried 100+ft. deep...? How is that in any way related to it...? How is that berating or bullying anybody. I seek to understand how finding artifacts are clues to something buried? All it does is confirm people were on the island. NOBODY thinks otherwise I bet. Nobody is denying folks weren't there. We've known that for century's.

What possible different view do you get from watching the same thing I watch...? So I should just "let it be and move on"...? To what end...? And believe me my "making a name for yourself" has come and went for 50+ past years. I've had my "10 minutes of fame" many times (enough). I have enjoyed my retirement now for 19 years. I do mind my own business but who's business was I possibly in...?

If all you want is to converse with folks who actually believe something of value is buried 100+ ft deep then please just hit the ignore button and pick your audience and ease your bruised mine. I don't berate you for having a different viewpoint but folks like YOU never answer any questions and only bitch if you don't agree...!

 

[GravelTeeth]

Nobody who watches O.I. actually believes somebody buried something 100-150ft. to be found centuries later

Hi Limitool. Clearly you didn't mean literally nobody, but you seem to imply some vast majority. Do you have a source for that assertion, some poll or something? Latest ratings for TCoOI were 1.45M (households? I guess ... per https://ustvdb.com/ratings/shows/ ). That's an awful lot of people to be making assumptions about.

--GT

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

The only treasure on oak island is found in the TV advertising $$$.

 

[Carl-NC]

In MY opinion the 90' stone has never truly been debunked.

The value of the stone is underscored by what happened to it. It was basically thrown away.

I have no doubt that "a stone" existed and maybe it was even found 90 feet down the hole. That would not be surprising in an area that was heavily glaciated or if the money pit was just a sinkhole. But if the stone included any inscription it would not have been discarded the way it was. It's another self-evidential aspect of the whole saga.

 

[Limitool]

Hi Limitool. Clearly you didn't mean literally nobody, but you seem to imply some vast majority. Do you have a source for that assertion, some poll or something? Latest ratings for TCoOI were 1.45M (households? I guess ... per https://ustvdb.com/ratings/shows/ ). That's an awful lot of people to be making assumptions about.

--GT

Hello.... No I have no poll. And yes there are folks who actually believe something of value is buried 100+ ft. I have no reason to doubt just 1.45M households tune in across the country. But are you assuming that anyone who watches the show believes something of value is buried? Many people watch the show with absolutely no expectation of anything of value is to be found. I'm sure some folks sit on the edge of there seat waiting for a great discovery. But many just watch (me included) to see what there going to say this week to tie any artifact to something buried. Or what new twist they can come up with to something buried.

So I don't know how many out the 1.45M actually believe something of value is buried. But it does amaze me how folks think it's possible over 200 yrs ago someone dug a hole 100-150ft deep to put something. And even more improbable after all the work done over 200 years the dream is still believed.

But for those that do believe I'd like to hear why. Maybe you got a good reason. But many many folks watch the show not because they believe "this is the week".... it's just to see the scripted shows new twists and turns each week. It's fun to watch how each artifact, rock, new map or some new symbol is tied to something still buried way way way down.

Your right.... Not everybody...!

 

[n2mini]

Same could be said as to why over 4000 years ago people built pyramids just to bury someone.. For some of those people digging a 100' hole would be a Saturday afternoon job..
As far as the stone disappearing, people back then didn't hold on to stuff like we do now. There have been times where decades went by without any real searches going on. Who's keeping track of the stone at that point, people die, next person doesn't care about it, etc etc.. Heck no one even thought to survey and mark the hole to know where it actually is.. That would never happen today...

 

[Limitool]

Same could be said as to why over 4000 years ago people built pyramids just to bury someone.. For some of those people digging a 100' hole would be a Saturday afternoon job..
As far as the stone disappearing, people back then didn't hold on to stuff like we do now. There have been times where decades went by without any real searches going on. Who's keeping track of the stone at that point, people die, next person doesn't care about it, etc etc.. Heck no one even thought to survey and mark the hole to know where it actually is.. That would never happen today...

That's true I guess for some pyramids. But they did it for a purpose and probably had a massive amount of folks who agreed and helped. They apparently wanted a visual to honor a leader and to display their work. So the visual was built and put in place for all to see. All that work was a collective effort over time.

But coming to a remote island and digging a 100-150ft hole is not to be compared I think. But I'd rather be part of digging that hole then a pyramid. That is much easier I too believe. The logic of even digging a hole that deep is hard to justify just to put something in. And even harder that folks actually believe it. But many do. The pyramid build was a mass work of labor by many and a visual to see afterwards. A hole 100-150ft deep done by a few is different. And again... if someone believes someone did do it... why? What's the difference between 6ft and 100+ft except math?

Even the rock road defies logic concerning something buried deep underground. Who would go to all that work just to deposit something of value once. Why not just empty whatever it is and remove it from the ship piece by piece instead of moving one large mass weight? I believe the road was used by many settlers or visitors to the island and not for a one-time deposit. The hole and the road just don't go together I believe.

Does anybody believe they do...? Why if you do?

 

[n2mini]

Not sure if all the people helped willingly to build pyramids. Some I'd think was slave labor, but regardless they got it done. A feet even today would be tough to accomplish without gas powered machines.. Sadly on the show they relate everything to the treasure. It's kinda sickening really. Just be happy with what you found not "how this button might have been on the jacket of who deposited the treasure". Now a days they can't just dig/search however they want on the island. Special permits and archeologists etc. I'd like to see them just clear out the whole swamp area once and for all and quit talking about doing it every year and bouncing from spot to spot in it..
They have showed how some people 100's of year ago and don't remember the group they were talking about over seas but they use to dig deep round pits/rooms for again here I don't remember what they used it for, ceremonies or something. So they/Laginas used that to show this group could have dug the hole to hide their treasure/artifacts.. I would imagine they expected their decedent's to come get it years later during more peaceful times for said group maybe..

 

[Limitool]

Not sure if all the people helped willingly to build pyramids. Some I'd think was slave labor, but regardless they got it done. A feet even today would be tough to accomplish without gas powered machines.. Sadly on the show they relate everything to the treasure. It's kinda sickening really. Just be happy with what you found not "how this button might have been on the jacket of who deposited the treasure". Now a days they can't just dig/search however they want on the island. Special permits and archeologists etc. I'd like to see them just clear out the whole swamp area once and for all and quit talking about doing it every year and bouncing from spot to spot in it..
They have showed how some people 100's of year ago and don't remember the group they were talking about over seas but they use to dig deep round pits/rooms for again here I don't remember what they used it for, ceremonies or something. So they/Laginas used that to show this group could have dug the hole to hide their treasure/artifacts.. I would imagine they expected their decedent's to come get it years later during more peaceful times for said group maybe..

I agree with you... I too ask myself why in the hell does every artifact have to somehow be related to something buried. I feel when they script it that it's sadly degrading to keep doing it. It's like a broken record that everything has to do with something in a hole.

They keep using the verbiage of "treasure" as if it's a fact and they know this. "Could it be... something of incredible value was buried". So all this work, organization, money spent and people involved are doing this and asking this question at the same time...! I'm glad there making money off the shows advertising and reruns.

Just watched "next week on O.I."... The MD guy finds a large fastener. Knows what it is and says this could have come off a treasure chest...! Now that is some insight...! But it is entertaining for sure to listen to them twist and turn.

 

[N/A]

Who the hell said everything they find is fake..? I didn't. How is a stone road fake...? I don't have a clue. I seriously doubt anyone from the show laid it. Probably people from long ago needed it to unload heavy cargo from ships that docked there. But that's just a guess. They probably left MANY artifacts around the island as all humans do when they inhabit a area for a longer length of time.

With all that said above what does that have to do with something buried 100+ft. deep...? How is that in any way related to it...? How is that berating or bullying anybody. I seek to understand how finding artifacts are clues to something buried? All it does is confirm people were on the island. NOBODY thinks otherwise I bet. Nobody is denying folks weren't there. We've known that for century's.

What possible different view do you get from watching the same thing I watch...? So I should just "let it be and move on"...? To what end...? And believe me my "making a name for yourself" has come and went for 50+ past years. I've had my "10 minutes of fame" many times (enough). I have enjoyed my retirement now for 19 years. I do mind my own business but who's business was I possibly in...?

If all you want is to converse with folks who actually believe something of value is buried 100+ ft deep then please just hit the ignore button and pick your audience and ease your bruised mine. I don't berate you for having a different viewpoint but folks like YOU never answer any questions and only bitch if you don't agree...!

The entire Island has turned into a giant puzzle or possibly multiple puzzles and with pieces missing. They are trying to put the pieces together

Hello.... No I have no poll. And yes there are folks who actually believe something of value is buried 100+ ft. I have no reason to doubt just 1.45M households tune in across the country. But are you assuming that anyone who watches the show believes something of value is buried? Many people watch the show with absolutely no expectation of anything of value is to be found. I'm sure some folks sit on the edge of there seat waiting for a great discovery. But many just watch (me included) to see what there going to say this week to tie any artifact to something buried. Or what new twist they can come up with to something buried.

So I don't know how many out the 1.45M actually believe something of value is buried. But it does amaze me how folks think it's possible over 200 yrs ago someone dug a hole 100-150ft deep to put something. And even more improbable after all the work done over 200 years the dream is still believed.

But for those that do believe I'd like to hear why. Maybe you got a good reason. But many many folks watch the show not because they believe "this is the week".... it's just to see the scripted shows new twists and turns each week. It's fun to watch how each artifact, rock, new map or some new symbol is tied to something still buried way way way down.

Your right.... Not everybody...!

No, you are the one assuming that everyone watching is expecting something of value being buried. Facts are that a hole was dug very deep but the reason is unknown and the most obvious reason is to bury something of value which is partially backed up with precious metals being found in water samples.

As far as the show being scripted, I know some people on a different "reality" show and the people behind the cameras, following the activity and daily lives of the individuals, dont always get the "perfect" shots or angles so they ask for them to be repeated. After a while it becomes a joke and game for everyone involved.