Record Gun Sales in Maryland as Tyrannical Law Looms

[skateandcreate]

Oh, OK - my bad - different law... I knew a lot of people were getting fired up about the arms treaty - thought it was the same deal. As far as an assault weapons ban goes, I'm in favor... if it will help keep them out of the hands of people like the Colorado move theater shooter, or the guy in Newtown. I of course want to keep my shotguns and hunting rifles... but I don't need an assault weapon to hunt, nor do I need one to protect my home. If the only people who are actually using them (aside from target shooters) are criminals, I say take 'em. I know many will disagree with that.... But gun deaths in this country are out of control.

Look up the statistics on how many gun deaths last year in America where caused by "assault rifles". The term itself is played out by the leftist media to induce fear to play into their anti-gun agenda. What are the differences between a hunting rifle and the "assault rifles" in question?

 

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[Treasure_Hunter]

Gun laws do not stop bad people from getting guns, they only stop law abiding citizens from legally owning guns.

Drugs are illegal, has it stopped people from buying them.?

Murder, robbery, assaults, rape are all illegal, do they stop them from happening?

All gun control does is stop law abiding citizens from legally owning firearms and makes criminals of those who do...... It has been proven time after time.

Why are there less murders in states with right to carry and concealed carry laws than in states with strict gun control? It is because the criminals know they are as likely to get shot as their victim.....



And the 2nd Amendment has absolutely nothing what so ever to do with hunting.....

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[loco oro]

listen, ss, i respect your views, but what i think you fail to understand is this is a provision pro vided by the bill of rights not for simple self protection,but to protect the people from currupt and unjust gov,it is stated that it is not only our right but our duty to throw off such government, that interferes with the the RIGHTS provided to ALL americans,this isnt simply wether you own a gun or not but that you have the right to do so, to invalidate this right is to invalidate all of them, what makes the exception?my arguement lies not with do i need one, but it is my right, our rights are our foundation,literaly,and i will not accept those who are deluded to think that taking , or altering one will not give arguement to taking or altering any of the rest.capitualating to this will give rise to a whole host of other issues, it most definatly wont make us safer, so what is the real reason?

 

[Colonial_New_England]

Look up the statistics on how many gun deaths last year in America where caused by "assault rifles". The term itself is played out by the leftist media to induce fear to play into their anti-gun agenda. What are the differences between a hunting rifle and the "assault rifles" in question?

Think back to all of the MAJOR shootings that happened recently - i.e. Newtown, Colorado, etc... what was used? AR-15's - a style of gun meant to inflict a lot of damage in a short amount of time. They're not sporting weapons, they are people killing weapons designed for military use. The one used in Newtown was purchased legally. I don't think they are needed by sportsmen.

In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”. That's on the books, and I think assault weapons fall in that category.

The second amendment reads as follows: 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' At it's writing, the main focus of that amendment was militias in a time of revolution... And while I DEFINITELY agree that it is the people's responsibility to keep power in check, what the 2nd amendment has come to mean to the NRA and gun rights advocates is something very different from its initial intent.

 

[wingmaster]

You really think all the police know what their doing with a gun really? I guess you didn't see the news in NY when a guy killed his boss and the cops killed him but shot about 4 innocent people in the process, which in my opinion could have been avoided if they were taught to kneel down and shot for the top of the head if needing to fire where other people might be wounded or killed and if they missed their target the bullets would be traveling up over the bystanders. I've also seen a lot of instructors for hunting permits that have shot themselves while teaching how to properly handle a firearm. Now I started hunting when I was 8yrs old so what makes some young guy more capable of teaching my child how to handle a firearm than me? I've also seen a lot of people prosecuted for letting their child get ahold of a firearm and shoot themselves which I have no problem with but when a police officer's child killed himself I believe last year here it was just a tragic accident, so what make's that different shouldn't he have known better than most by your account? Oh as far as better off now days a lot of people are going hungry with no jobs or jobs where you still can't keep your house, car, insurance, food, and I don't see it getting any better soon.

Pretty hard to defend yourself against random attacks, you will always get those who prey on the weak, it wouldn't do if the police had turned up, knocked on the old ladies door, only to be met by flying lead, because she was scared out of her wits. Guns need to be in the hands of people who know what they are doing, not scared old ladies.

SS

 

[Colonial_New_England]

Gun laws do not stop bad people from getting guns, they only stop law abiding citizens from legally owning guns.

Drugs are illegal, has it stopped people from buying them.?

Murder, robbery, assaults, rape are all illegal, do they stop them from happening?

All gun control does is stop law abiding citizens from legally owning firearms and makes criminals of those who do...... It has been proven time after time.

Why are there less murders in states with right to carry and concealed carry laws than in states with strict gun control? It is because the criminals know they are as likely to get shot as their victim.....



And the 2nd Amendment has absolutely nothing what so ever to do with hunting.....

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Gun laws in the UK are MUCH tougher, and their gun violence numbers are incredibly below ours... So you have to assume, either having tougher gun laws helps prevent violent crime, or our American Society has a major problem with violent crime that's specifically an AMERICAN problem - whether that's influenced by movies, video games, or just our collective psychology is anybody's guess... but either way, based on teh numbers, those are the two conclusions you'd have to choose from. And whichever one you choose, MAJOR changes need to be made somewhere.

 

[Red James Cash]

As far as an assault weapons ban goes, I'm in favor.

If youre a gun owner then you should know that the only way a citizen can own an assault rifle is to have a class 3 license.You are in favor of banning semiauto rifles,not assault weapons.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Think back to all of the MAJOR shootings that happened recently - i.e. Newtown, Colorado, etc... what was used? AR-15's - a style of gun meant to inflict a lot of damage in a short amount of time. They're not sporting weapons, they are people killing weapons designed for military use. The one used in Newtown was purchased legally. I don't think they are needed by sportsmen.

In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”. That's on the books, and I think assault weapons fall in that category.

The second amendment reads as follows: 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' At it's writing, the main focus of that amendment was militias in a time of revolution... And while I DEFINITELY agree that it is the people's responsibility to keep power in check, what the 2nd amendment has come to mean to the NRA and gun rights advocates is something very different from its initial intent.

The 2nd was written so the people could defend their selves from tyranny, from an abusive government . The musket was the AR-15 of its day.

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[wingmaster]

If you think your going to be able to get the weapons needed in a time of revolution after the fact your most likely mistaken, I would much rather they be at hand when needed as opposed to trying to get them later. Someone might have a left over BB gun if you need it though if it would happen in are lifetime, hopefully it never happens and everyone goes on with their normal life.

Think back to all of the MAJOR shootings that happened recently - i.e. Newtown, Colorado, etc... what was used? AR-15's - a style of gun meant to inflict a lot of damage in a short amount of time. They're not sporting weapons, they are people killing weapons designed for military use. The one used in Newtown was purchased legally. I don't think they are needed by sportsmen.

In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”. That's on the books, and I think assault weapons fall in that category.

The second amendment reads as follows: 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' At it's writing, the main focus of that amendment was militias in a time of revolution... And while I DEFINITELY agree that it is the people's responsibility to keep power in check, what the 2nd amendment has come to mean to the NRA and gun rights advocates is something very different from its initial intent.

 

[Red James Cash]

If you think your going to be able to get the weapons needed in a time of revolution after the fact your most likely mistaken

I imagine that there will be some never fired and only dropped once kicking around.Its also where zip guns come in handy.One shot equals a new gun.

 

[loco oro]

Gun laws in the UK are MUCH tougher, and their gun violence numbers are incredibly below ours... So you have to assume, either having tougher gun laws helps prevent violent crime, or our American Society has a major problem with violent crime that's specifically an AMERICAN problem - whether that's influenced by movies, video games, or just our collective psychology is anybody's guess... but either way, based on teh numbers, those are the two conclusions you'd have to choose from. And whichever one you choose, MAJOR changes need to be made somewhere.

see here again,you want to alter my rights,what arrogance, major changes needed? gun ownership is a part of american culture, where does it state that you have the right to infringe on mine,why am i to be victimized by anothers veiws, these incidents are tragedys yes ,but they are perpatrated by unstable individuals becauase of their acts our rights should be steped on,come on man its a dangerous world we live incrying about it isnt the solution, infringing upon our rights isnt a solution,major changes? do you plan on changing the violent nature of man and ushering in a utopian society, this the real world.

 

[Colonial_New_England]

If you think your going to be able to get the weapons needed in a time of revolution after the fact your most likely mistaken

I would certainly concede you that point... So, what in your opinion would be the BEST way to combat shootings like Columbine, like Newtown, like Aurora... I'm curious.... Because while I'm wary of the powers that be, I also want my kids to be able to go to school or the movies without being worried that someone's going to wander in with a military style weapon... These are not easy questions... and I'm sure there are a lot of things politically these days that would give our founding fathers cause for concern... such as the level to which we are all being watched and recorded....

 

[Colonial_New_England]

see here again,you want to alter my rights,what arrogance, major changes needed? gun ownership is a part of american culture, where does it state that you have the right to infringe on mine,why am i to be victimized by anothers veiws, these incidents are tragedys yes ,but they are perpatrated by unstable individuals becauase of their acts our rights should be steped on,come on man its a dangerous world we live incrying about it isnt the solution, infringing upon our rights isnt a solution,major changes? do you plan on changing the violent nature of man and ushering in a utopian society, this the real world.

I say this because these kinds of incidents (Newtown, Aurora, etc) are on the rise... happening more and more often... becoming regular events... each one setting new and tragic records. So the question is, do we have a gun problem, a SOCIETY problem, or both. And whichever answer you choose, you have to ask WHY, and what do we do about it?

 

[loco oro]

( shall not be infringed) why is there an arguement, to say its not relivant now is twisting it to support YOUR views.

 

[loco oro]

i agree there is a problem, but i also believe this is not the solution,perhaps if we lived in a perfect world there would be a solution, but the sad fact is we dont.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Gun laws in the UK are MUCH tougher, and their gun violence numbers are incredibly below ours... So you have to assume, either having tougher gun laws helps prevent violent crime, or our American Society has a major problem with violent crime that's specifically an AMERICAN problem - whether that's influenced by movies, video games, or just our collective psychology is anybody's guess... but either way, based on teh numbers, those are the two conclusions you'd have to choose from. And whichever one you choose, MAJOR changes need to be made somewhere.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:58PM GMT


Violent and sexual crimes rampant in UK
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Latest figures from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) estimate that there were 8.6 million crimes in England and Wales in the year ending March 2013.


Among different types of crimes, violent and sexual crimes, which are the most serious, cover a range of offence types. Violence spans minor assaults, such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious assault and murder, while Sexual assault covers offences from indecent exposure to rape.

Provisional figures supplied by the British police to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) revealed that in 2013 the number of recorded murder or homicides, where a gun or firearm caused fatality, in England and Wales has reached 552 so far. The homicide rate per million population also stands at 9.8 while the population of the two countries is 56.1 million totally.

According to the ONS statistics, in 2012-13, more than two-thirds of homicide victims were male, the most common method of killing continues to be by sharp instrument, and victims aged less than 16 years were most likely to be killed by a parent or step-parent.

Moreover, female victims were found more likely to be killed by someone they knew as in most cases they were killed by a current or ex-partner while male victims were most likely to be killed by a friend or acquaintance.

The 2011-12 figures also disclosed that the number of homicide victims in Scotland stands just 11 short of last year’s 101. Among the 90 victims (17 percent of Scotland’s 5.3 million population), 5 were murdered by a gun or firearm while using sharp instruments such as knife was recognized as the main method of killing in the country.

The number of homicide victims in Northern Ireland also stands at 23, almost 13 percent of the country’s 1.8 million population.

Total UK murder/homicide rate in 2011-12 was 10.5 with 663 recorded victims. This number was 777 in 2010-2011 and the rate was 12.3 in the financial year.

In addition to violent crimes, sexual offences statistics, including rape crimes, in Britain are also shocking.

According to the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), ONS and Home Office’s first joint Official Statistics bulletin on sexual violence in January 2013, approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in England and Wales every year.

Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year while 1 in 5 women (aged 16 - 59) has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16.

The report entitled An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales, also disclosed that between 2009/10 and 2011/12 there were an estimated 78,000 victims of rape per year in England and Wales, of which 69,000 were females and 9,000 were males.

Over the same three years only an average of 15,670 rapes were recorded by the police each year, while 3,850 offences a year became “detections” (recorded crimes that proceed either to court or to an out-of court disposal).

Of the recorded offenders 2,910 face court proceedings and only 1,070 are convicted of rape crime.

This comes as a compilation of statistics on child sexual abuse revealed only 18,915 sexual crimes against children in England and Wales in 2012-2013.

According to figures, 1 in 20 children have been sexually abused in the two countries. Moreover, ninety percent of these children were found to be abused by someone they know.

According to crime statistics, violence is mostly recorded in cities of Nottingham, Southampton, Bournemouth, Plymouth, Birmingham, and Manchester with Nottingham having the highest level of violence.

Considering other types of crimes, such as burglary and robbery, however, Manchester is understood to be the most dangerous major city in England and Wales in the 2013 rankings.

The UK Peace Index, from the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) also reveal that Glasgow in Scotland has the highest rates of homicides and violent crime in the UK. London and Belfast also come in the second and third place.

The three cities were ranked according to the number of homicides and levels of violent and weapon crime, public disorder and numbers of police officers per 100,000 people.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/26/326153/violent-and-sexual-crimes-rampant-in-uk/


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[skateandcreate]

All of these mass shootings have the same things in common. Mental health. Just because an AR was used doesn't make it the weapons fault. A vast majority of murders are committed using easily concealable, just as rapidly firing handguns. Where is the outrage about handguns. The "assault rifle" is a scapegoat and banning them will change nothing. The shooter recently in DC didn't use an "assault rifle". He used a shotgun like Biden told everyone to buy. It was known that he had mental health issues but the right people didn't do the right thing with the information that they had. That is how you stop a tragedy. Not impeding on our rights laid out in the constitution. These people in congress have no idea what an everyday life is and what will protect the American people anymore. I live a couple houses down from Steny Hoyer. He has a secret service truck pick him up and drive him around everyday. Do you think that with him being protected that he knows what is best for the everyday citizen. He doesn't think we have a spending problem as a country either but that's a different rant for a different post.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:58PM GMT


Violent and sexual crimes rampant in UK
*
Latest figures from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) estimate that there were 8.6 million crimes in England and Wales in the year ending March 2013.


Among different types of crimes, violent and sexual crimes, which are the most serious, cover a range of offence types. Violence spans minor assaults, such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious assault and murder, while Sexual assault covers offences from indecent exposure to rape.

Provisional figures supplied by the British police to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) revealed that in 2013 the number of recorded murder or homicides, where a gun or firearm caused fatality, in England and Wales has reached 552 so far. The homicide rate per million population also stands at 9.8 while the population of the two countries is 56.1 million totally.

According to the ONS statistics, in 2012-13, more than two-thirds of homicide victims were male, the most common method of killing continues to be by sharp instrument, and victims aged less than 16 years were most likely to be killed by a parent or step-parent.

Moreover, female victims were found more likely to be killed by someone they knew as in most cases they were killed by a current or ex-partner while male victims were most likely to be killed by a friend or acquaintance.

The 2011-12 figures also disclosed that the number of homicide victims in Scotland stands just 11 short of last year’s 101. Among the 90 victims (17 percent of Scotland’s 5.3 million population), 5 were murdered by a gun or firearm while using sharp instruments such as knife was recognized as the main method of killing in the country.

The number of homicide victims in Northern Ireland also stands at 23, almost 13 percent of the country’s 1.8 million population.

Total UK murder/homicide rate in 2011-12 was 10.5 with 663 recorded victims. This number was 777 in 2010-2011 and the rate was 12.3 in the financial year.

In addition to violent crimes, sexual offences statistics, including rape crimes, in Britain are also shocking.

According to the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), ONS and Home Office’s first joint Official Statistics bulletin on sexual violence in January 2013, approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in England and Wales every year.

Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year while 1 in 5 women (aged 16 - 59) has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16.

The report entitled An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales, also disclosed that between 2009/10 and 2011/12 there were an estimated 78,000 victims of rape per year in England and Wales, of which 69,000 were females and 9,000 were males.

Over the same three years only an average of 15,670 rapes were recorded by the police each year, while 3,850 offences a year became “detections” (recorded crimes that proceed either to court or to an out-of court disposal).

Of the recorded offenders 2,910 face court proceedings and only 1,070 are convicted of rape crime.

This comes as a compilation of statistics on child sexual abuse revealed only 18,915 sexual crimes against children in England and Wales in 2012-2013.

According to figures, 1 in 20 children have been sexually abused in the two countries. Moreover, ninety percent of these children were found to be abused by someone they know.

According to crime statistics, violence is mostly recorded in cities of Nottingham, Southampton, Bournemouth, Plymouth, Birmingham, and Manchester with Nottingham having the highest level of violence.

Considering other types of crimes, such as burglary and robbery, however, Manchester is understood to be the most dangerous major city in England and Wales in the 2013 rankings.

The UK Peace Index, from the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) also reveal that Glasgow in Scotland has the highest rates of homicides and violent crime in the UK. London and Belfast also come in the second and third place.

The three cities were ranked according to the number of homicides and levels of violent and weapon crime, public disorder and numbers of police officers per 100,000 people.

PressTV - Violent and sexual crimes rampant in UK


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And what's all that to do with Gun control in America

SS

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

I say this because these kinds of incidents (Newtown, Aurora, etc) are on the rise... happening more and more often... becoming regular events... each one setting new and tragic records. So the question is, do we have a gun problem, a SOCIETY problem, or both. And whichever answer you choose, you have to ask WHY, and what do we do about it?

Col. NE, there is and has been a societal breakdown, since about the 60's early 70's. Imho, it boils down to loss of love for self and for others. Ppl usually view themselves, life, and their surroundings in one of three ways. With love, with fear, or with anger.

Which of the 3 mindsets, do you think the perpetrators of these horrific events had? We have a societal problem, I don't care how many guns you cart away or destroy, it still will not change that fact!
Loss of love........ too bad there is no course to learn to replace love, when it is lost. Our silent speech and regulatory speech is so much more powerful, than many give credence to.

When we rely on tv, advertising, video games, and computers to raise our children, what kind of message of "care" does that send to another human being? Kids aren't stupid, but we are raising damaged individuals, in many (not all) cases.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

And what's all that to do with Gun control in America

SS

SS,

Col used crime rates in UK in his post.

What does England have to do with our rights, nothing they are OUR rights. We have repeatedly told your blow heart Piers Morgan this.



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