QUESTIONABLE INFORMATION POSTED AS FACT CONCERNING THE BEALE TALE

[ECS]

Showing your true nature. You got another one, huh.

...and your point?

 

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...and your point?

You're the one who is proving my point, by celebrating what you mistakenly take as a victory over other posters. It must be lonely in your little world.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

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[ECS]

A RETURN TO THE TOPICS DISCUSSION

When one researches James Beverly Ward's extended family, Risqué, Hutter, Kennerly, Hancock, Sherman, as well as his wife Harriet's to Buford, Otey, Morris, Mitchell, the source material for the locations and some of the names in the Beale Papers become apparent through the literary constructed ambiguity of the job print pamphlet.

The only two events than can be verified in the Beale story narrative is the location where Sarah Mitchell Morris and Robert Morris passed away, and possibly that Max Guggenheimer, ESQ lived at Morris's Main Street residence in 1885.
It has been assumed that the address was 600 Main Street, but the Fine Arts Building at that location was built in 1905 .
When was Guggenheimer's Grace Street in the Diamond Hill built?
Before or after 1885?

 

[ECS]

Is there evidence that Max Guggenheimer lived at the Morris's residence in Main Street in 1885 when the pamphlet was published?
Ot is known that Guggenheimer had businesses on Main Street during that period.

 

[ECS]

The importance of establishing Max Guggenheimer's residence in 1885 outside of the mention in the Beale Papers narrative is that Guggenheimer and the agent for copyright/publisher Ward are the only two names mentioned that were living when the job print pamphlet was printed.
Also it is curious that "ESQ" is placed after Guggenheimer's name, which in 1885 America esquire designated one who practiced law, but in England, designated one of high social status.
What was the purpose of "ESQ" in the Beale story for a well known 1885 Lynchburg businessman ?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

High Social Status, as a Businessman.

 

[ECS]

...and in 1885, did Max Guggenheimer actually reside at the former home of Robert Morriss on Main Street or at the Diamond Hill house on Grace Street?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

...and in 1885, did Max Guggenheimer actually reside at the former home of Robert Morriss on Main Street or at the Diamond Hill house on Grace Street?

Diamond Hill, probably...

 

[franklin]

ECS, go back and look at the post made Nov. 2017. We have already plowed this field. Or google Max Guggenheimer Jr.

 

[ECS]

Diamond Hill, probably...

Are there Lynchburg property tax records that confirm that Max Guggenheimer's 1885 residence was Grace Street in the Diamond Hill District.
Franklin, will you please post a link to that Nov 2017 post?

 

[franklin]

Are there Lynchburg property tax records that confirm that Max Guggenheimer's 1885 residence was Grace Street in the Diamond Hill District.
Franklin, will you please post a link to that Nov 2017 post?

Don't know how? You can google Max G. and it will come up on a treasurenet link. Here is Grey's 1877 Map I posted on the Link maybe it will help you find it?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Don't know how? You can google Max G. and it will come up on a treasurenet link. Here is Grey's 1877 Map I posted on the Link maybe it will help you find it?View attachment 1775817

Title of that "thread"...?

 

[franklin]

Title of that "thread"...?

The house now owned and occupied by Max Guggenheimer ESQ

 

[ECS]

Grey's 1877 Map
View attachment 1775817

Question:
It seems that the darkened buildings are residences and those with lines (Adams Bros for example) are businesses and warehouses.
The buildings with Max Guggenheiner Jr on Fifth and Main have the lines of businesses and warehouses.

https://www.gravegarden.org/confederate-hospitals-in-lynchburg/
The above site has a map of the hotels and homes utilized as hospitals during the 1861-1865 War of Northern Aggression.
On this map, which was made into a Lynchburg historical marker has Fifth and Main on the left side on the map, where the 1877 Grey's has these streets on the right side of the map, which makes comparison confusing.
The buildings on Fifth and Main on the Confederate hospital map are the PLANTERS HOTEL and Lucy Mina Otey's Ladies Relief Hospital, and the Washington Hotel is on Eighth and Main.
*NOTE* Lucy Mina Otey was the aunt of Harriet Ward, James Beverly Ward's wife.

Neither map are solid confirmation of Max Guggenheimer's residence on Main Street.
Are there existing tax and/or property records from 1885 that could finally confirm the statement in the Beale Papers?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Question:
It seems that the darkened buildings are residences and those with lines (Adams Bros for example) are businesses and warehouses.
The buildings with Max Guggenheiner Jr on Fifth and Main have the lines of businesses and warehouses.

https://www.gravegarden.org/confederate-hospitals-in-lynchburg/
The above site has a map of the hotels and homes utilized as hospitals during the 1861-1865 War of Northern Aggression.
On this map, which was made into a Lynchburg historical marker has Fifth and Main on the left side on the map, where the 1877 Grey's has these streets on the right side of the map, which makes comparison confusing.
The buildings on Fifth and Main on the Confederate hospital map are the PLANTERS HOTEL and Lucy Mina Otey's Ladies Relief Hospital, and the Washington Hotel is on Eighth and Main.
*NOTE* Lucy Mina Otey was the aunt of Harriet Ward, James Beverly Ward's wife.

Neither map are solid confirmation of Max Guggenheimer's residence on Main Street.
Are there existing tax and/or property records from 1885 that could finally conform the statement in the Beale Papers?

COULD BE! Come & LOOK!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

The house now owned and occupied by Max Guggenheimer ESQ

THANKS! FOUND IT!

 

[ECS]

... Here is Grey's 1877 Map
View attachment 1775817

Are you able to post the Diamond Hill section that shows 1902 Grace Street on Grey's 1877 map?
...and possibly the legend that explains the various markings?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Are you able to post the Diamond Hill section that shows 1902 Grace Street on Grey's 1877 map?
...and possibly the legend that explains the various markings?

Diamond Hill...? FULL of old homes, "OLD" $$$$$$$$$$$$...

 

[franklin]

Are you able to post the Diamond Hill section that shows 1902 Grace Street on Grey's 1877 map?
...and possibly the legend that explains the various markings?

The legend has no explanation but the newer buildings are in black and the older builders are brown. I believe. Max Guggenheimer Jr. Did not live in the Diamond Hill Section in 1877. There were four different landowners living there at that time. A Mrs. Miller's property was the western boundary of Max's property later. They named the Street after 1877 where she lived as Wilson Street and it was the western boundary of Max Jr.'s property later.