Pioneer scribble or something ELSE? (pics of find updated)

[Blind.In.Texas]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

I'm really heading to bed this time dang it

Since I am enthralled with this goose chase I guess I will point this out.

1] Large (ROUND) black rock allein.....alone.
2] Parts of it are seemingly the same type of rock mixed in with the "wall"
3] Leads the eye back to the left up to #3. Black rocks perched on top. Small interesting crevice below.

1] Confirmation marks? I don't want to sound crazy but, is that a friggin' roadrunner? Vertical crack with an "I" beneath it. Open mouth on distorted face to left of said crack. Means treasure is near (so I have been told).
2] Bird head (eagle or hawk?) at base of 'min-wall' looking right.

The only other thing I see is that flat rock on the left and you might wanna flip that over. I think I remember you saying this rock points due N. Or, is it a different rock?

Here is another pair of confirmations

 

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[exiledangel]

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Mannings, try to find out when plywood was first used, you can date your find, maybe. Also I once found a carved G, the bar pointed to the next sign. RH2

The use of thin layers of wood as a means of construction dates to approximately 1500 B.C. when Egyptian craftsmen bonded thin pieces of dark ebony wood to the exterior of a cedar casket found in the tomb of King Tut-Ankh-Amon. This technique was later used by the Greeks and Romans to produce fine furniture and other decorative objects. In the 1600s, the art of decorating furniture with thin pieces of wood became known as veneering, and the pieces themselves became known as veneers.

Until the late 1700s, the pieces of veneer were cut entirely by hand. In 1797, Englishman Sir Samuel Bentham applied for patents covering several machines to produce veneers. In his patent applications, he described the concept of laminating several layers of veneer with glue to form a thicker piece—the first description of what we now call plywood.
Despite this development, it took almost another hundred years before laminated veneers found any commercial uses outside of the furniture industry. In about 1890, laminated woods were first used to build doors. As the demand grew, several companies began producing sheets of multiple-ply laminated wood, not only for doors, but also for use in railroad cars, busses, and airplanes. Despite this increased usage, the concept of using "pasted woods," as some craftsmen sarcastically called them, generated a negative image for the product. To counter this image, the laminated wood manufacturers met and finally settled on the term "plywood" to describe the new material.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Mannings, try to find out when plywood was first used, you can date your find, maybe. Also I once found a carved G, the bar pointed to the next sign. RH2

The use of thin layers of wood as a means of construction dates to approximately 1500 B.C. when Egyptian craftsmen bonded thin pieces of dark ebony wood to the exterior of a cedar casket found in the tomb of King Tut-Ankh-Amon. This technique was later used by the Greeks and Romans to produce fine furniture and other decorative objects. In the 1600s, the art of decorating furniture with thin pieces of wood became known as veneering, and the pieces themselves became known as veneers.

Until the late 1700s, the pieces of veneer were cut entirely by hand. In 1797, Englishman Sir Samuel Bentham applied for patents covering several machines to produce veneers. In his patent applications, he described the concept of laminating several layers of veneer with glue to form a thicker piece—the first description of what we now call plywood.
Despite this development, it took almost another hundred years before laminated veneers found any commercial uses outside of the furniture industry. In about 1890, laminated woods were first used to build doors. As the demand grew, several companies began producing sheets of multiple-ply laminated wood, not only for doors, but also for use in railroad cars, busses, and airplanes. Despite this increased usage, the concept of using "pasted woods," as some craftsmen sarcastically called them, generated a negative image for the product. To counter this image, the laminated wood manufacturers met and finally settled on the term "plywood" to describe the new material.

Sweet! Thanks and great info. So, I wonder if the possibility remains that the wood he found could be much older that he 40s. I am not versed in the rainfall patterns of Utah. I know here in the SE Lonestar state, it wouldn't last that long. From what I have seen of Utah in GE, not much grows there anyway. Anyone have any reference material for 19th century hardware?

Welcome to TNET exiledangel!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Mike when it comes to rain where mannings is,
Some of the places out here will get as much as 10 inches! Per year!
Locals will tell you that's a lot.

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

That rock wall is wonderful. I've never seen a snake curled around like that, with a hole in the coil. Does it actually have rattles on its tail Could it mean they planted snakes here?


A couple of things to add to the mix. The left one seems to have a curved cut out on it. Rather definitive.

The upper middle one is interesting. That pairing I have seen before but nothing definitive came of it.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

On the right hand side there is a heart about to shoot a squirrel

 

[hadji009]

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looks like a pointer.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

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We could go on quite a bit finding stuff in the rocks. That is not to say subtle things don't exist. Seems like he is at a point now where some interpretation will be useful. Correct me if I am wrong but, he needs to find more drill holes or vertical/horizontal lines used as measurements, right?. Interpretation isn't my bag.

Figure A is a squirrel pushing a 'nut' uphill.. Cute isn't he!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

I would climb to the highest point closest to these rock walls,
and photograph.
Compare photos with the stone map. IE dots in circles.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

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Just a little something to think about. You might possibly find information, concerning the right red circle, under the left red circle.

To the right of the previous.

 

[mannings]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Thanks for all the reply's gents. I've been unable to post for a day and a half. Can't wait to digest the new stuff, head back out, and return with feedback.

Where's the "backpack smiley?"

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Where's the "backpack smiley?"

 

[mannings]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Where's the "backpack smiley?"

Nice Mike, shoulda known you'd have one!!!

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

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Graves we have passed since Intersecting the Independence Route
1. C. McDaniel -- July 25, 1850
2. J. A. Drake Died at this place July 15, 1850
3. Horatio Morse July 17, 1850 Marcy Co. Mo.
4. M. Harris died July 18, 1850, Franklin Co Dublin Ohio
5. A Grave on the left side of the road with some writing on the head board, stating that he had been found by the road so [word illegible] that they could not ascertain who he was or where he was from--dated 19th July, 1850 & signed An Emigrating Company--

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[Blind.In.Texas]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Joshua Chapter 1
v8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

I believe (18.) and the E circled triangle, are confirmation signs and that they are directly related. I think the circle tells the reader that one of the old caches has been found, by a more modern [perhaps KGC] person, and either moved, or the signs used to locate them originally, have been changed. The small size of the 'o' in Morse may indicate that the Book of James is not relative to the confirmation, and that John, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, and Joshua could be used for confirmation that you are indeed working in the right direction. Also, Joshua is of the New Testament, meaning the E cache is newly signed or newly moved.

Isaiah Chapter 8
v6 Forasmuch as this people refuseth the waters of Shiloah that go softly, and rejoice in Rezin and Remaliah's son;

I think that in this portion, the panel maker uses Isaiah's reference to water (Shiloah Creek) to confirm that he had found the original caches (or one of them) near the stream bed indicated and that they had been left undisturbed, hence no cirlce around the triangle. Isaiah is of the Old Testament, meaning the NW cache is insitu.

 

[Old Dog]

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Now you are getting somewhere.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

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Now you are getting somewhere.

S I N

 

[mannings]

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Thanks everybody. I've had boots on awhile. May have this about cracked. Anybody know how to superimpose one pic over another? Meaning, make one somewhat transparent and lay it over another?

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Re: Pioneer scribble or something ELSE?

Thanks everybody. I've had boots on awhile. May have this about cracked. Anybody know how to superimpose one pic over another? Meaning, make one somewhat transparent and lay it over another?

Was starting to think you had found the gold and abandoned ship We want to see you wearing a TNET shirt and doing the Capt. Morgan pose, if you find any treasure

 

[Old Dog]

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Just a big smiley face is enough for the forum.
Jees, no need to broadcast it to the world.