Photographic glow

[Kentucky Kache]

Seriously, no science, no actual scientific data from any credible sources listed? No slight to the f9olks who claim to have seen this glow/aura, but why so little known about it?

I suggest that it might be because of the closed mindedness that we see here. Look at your own statement about the wedding rings. This kind of thinking is prevalent in science. Scientists, except for the few that have actually DONE something, are the most closed minded, arrogant people on earth. Do you really expect them to explore and make breakthroughs in something like this?

 

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[RGINN]

This is easy to resolve. Take a picture of a glowing aura in an area, then go out and dig up the gold that was indicated by that anamoly in the photo, and post the photo on here. Can you do that? That will shut the skeptics up real quick. Or you might come back to me with 'well, it's not that simple, RGINN.' How bout this, put up or shut up?

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

God bless you RGINN! That says it all...I'll repeat it for you. ( Put up or shut up ) with all of the HOGWASH! Show me the treasure! Show me the treasure! Where is the treasure? That's what I thought...No treasure! Poor sad broke no find believers!

 

[Shortstack]

God bless you RGINN! That says it all...I'll repeat it for you. ( Put up or shut up ) with all of the HOGWASH! Show me the treasure! Show me the treasure! Where is the treasure? That's what I thought...No treasure! Poor sad broke no find believers!

And just who are you that anyone should have to prove ANYTHING to?

 

[davidtn]

God bless you RGINN! That says it all...I'll repeat it for you. ( Put up or shut up ) with all of the HOGWASH! Show me the treasure! Show me the treasure! Where is the treasure? That's what I thought...No treasure! Poor sad broke no find believers!

And just who are you that anyone should have to prove ANYTHING to?

I believe that's the whole point. Nothing has been proven.

All this thread has proven is that there are strong feelings on both sides of the proverbial coin.

As for me, I'll hunt for coins/gold/relics/whatever the old fashioned way...with my electronic signal emitting gizmo mystery box...otherwise known as a METAL DETECTOR.

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

And just who are you that anyone should have to prove ANYTHING to?
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I am the evil NAY SAYER! I see we have another one on board! I wouldn't ask them to prove --deleted--, because it don't work anyway so there is nothing to prove! The only thing that has been proven here is that some people will believe anything! That's cool! 8) You all keep searching glowing pictures...that leaves the real treasure for the real hunters!

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

As for me, I'll hunt for coins/gold/relics/whatever the old fashioned way...with my electronic signal emitting gizmo mystery box...otherwise known as a METAL DETECTOR.
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Exactly...That's why we all buy metal detectors because I'm afraid the poloroid camera technique doesn't work worth a shit!

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

I am completely willing to go on to 4 to 5000 posts on this one so bring it on believers! This may turn out to be the longest string in Tnet history! I like verbal sparring! Nothing like a good argument! Maybe I can become a gold member just on this string! Do you think Mel Fischer took pictures of the ocean and looked for glows to find the Atocha? Have you ever tried to use a gold nugget as a flashlight? I suppose Fort Knox is aluminated by the vault itself right? Would you like to buy a treasure map? I am anxiously awaiting your replies! It has been a barral of laughs so far and I have only just begun!

 

[Kentucky Kache]

"I wouldn't ask them to prove --deleted--, because it don't work anyway so there is nothing to prove!"


You see, folks, here is the problem. A person makes up their mind that something is impossible and NOTHING is going to change that. No amount of proof would be sufficient. So why keep screaming you want proof? Some of you guys need to grow some testicular fortitude and stop being afraid of everything you hear that's different than what you've always been taught.

 

[Montana Jim]

So... while remaining open minded but skeptical...

A few folks have can take pics with a few cameras and the gold glows like headlights?

How come then, please, the entire rest of teh human race and all the other photography equipment cannot see the gold aura?  Yet - when ones gets a picture of it, we can ALL see it suddenly?  

I'm also wondering why we all don't use or wedding rinds and bling as flashlights.  

Seriously, no science, no actual scientific data from any credible sources listed?  No slight to the f9olks who claim to have seen this glow/aura, but why so little known about it?

Does is blend with the other slightly supernatural and slightly psudo-reality type iffy beliefs about wonderous and only seldom witnessed events?  

Some one post a site or article about the glow please so I can learn more...

     I don't believe I have EVER read such a mangling of a heretofore simple set of statements.  You have masterfully bungled the interpretation of a very good (even if I do say so myself) dissertation of the present state of affairs in today's scientific arena.  You deserve an award.   

While the spelling may have been poor a few times, try re-reading the questions... they are legitimate and structured correctly. 

I'm asking anyone's reply...

For shortstack's sake I'll reword them:

Only certain people can see the glow?
Only Certain cameras can capture the glow?
Why then can we all see this glow in the pics provided?
Why does not all gold glow all the time - soil conditions?
Is it supernatural?
Are creidible sources on the subject available?
Lastly ( newly added), why not just answer my questions with out making fun of the way I wrote them?

 

[Monty]

I really enjoyed the vocal jousting in this post. But it looks like the original poster got ran off from all the debate. I can't blame him much. Everyone is so set in their ways both pro and con that it turns into an argument instead of a debate and neither side wins. Ho hum, now it is just boring so I'll tune it out for now. M nty

 

[aarthrj3811]

This was sent to me by a friend. It was taken after he had dug up a beer can?

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Only certain people can see the glow?
Only Certain cameras can capture the glow?
Why then can we all see this glow in the pics provided?
Why does not all gold glow all the time - soil conditions?
Is it supernatural?
Are creidible sources on the subject available?

I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone said that only certain people can see the glow.

As far as only Certain cameras being able to capture the glow, would that be impossible? There ARE different types of cameras.

Why can we all see this glow in the pics? Because the camera took a picture of SOMETHING.

Why does not all gold glow all the time? Who knows...Could be soil conditions...could be weather conditions...could be moon phase...could be any of a thousand things that we don't understand. Why? because WE DON'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING! And heres another thought. What if all gold DOES glow all the time, but we don't have instruments capable of detecting it, except under certain conditions...just what if.

Are credible sources on the subject available? For me, this is what keeps us from seeing. We can't believe anything unless its approved by doctor so and so. As I said above, the only ones who ever actually DID anything were those who were poo poo'd by the Doctor so and so's.

If the great minds of the past had never said "What if", then inventions would never have happened.

 

[EddieR]

"I wouldn't ask them to prove --deleted--, because it don't work anyway so there is nothing to prove!"


You see, folks, here is the problem. A person makes up their mind that something is impossible and NOTHING is going to change that. No amount of proof would be sufficient. So why keep screaming you want proof? Some of you guys need to grow some testicular fortitude and stop being afraid of everything you hear that's different than what you've always been taught.

Cache Crazy, you have hit the nail on the head! Some people are so afraid of the unknown that they just want to pretend it doesn't exist. And that"s what it all boils down to....FEAR. They are so afraid of things they don't (can't) understand...it's just so much easier to PRETEND it doesn't go on around them.

And that's what I believe, so it must be true... right? Right? Right? Somebody please agree with me! Please! (I'm fishing for support here) Help! My mind is closing! LOL

All kidding aside, everyone have a great day!

Eddie

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Eddie, you say:

"Some people are so afraid of the unknown that they just want to pretend it doesn't exist. And that"s what it all boils down to....FEAR. They are so afraid of things they don't (can't) understand...it's just so much easier to PRETEND it doesn't go on around them."

That's right durnit! All those skeptics just don't have an open-mind to what future science might prove. They fear anything that doesn't fit in to their current understanding. Well said

That's why people are making fun of the moldy tennis shoe that I've covered with peanut butter and birdseed. Throw it in the air, and wherever it points to when it lands, is the direction of treasure! (just like a pointing dowsing rod for instance). Those persons who laugh at this notion, are just seeeoooo close minded. They don't realize that "science once laughed at the notion that man could fly". And when my tennis shoe DOES find treasure, how can anyone question the results of success? It therefore MUST work, because you can't argue with results, right? It's simple: I take my tennis shoe apparatus to enough old likely looking ruins I've researced out, and keep detecting wherever the shoe points. Naturally I use my metal detector to "pinpoint". After digging enough holes, around these likely looking ruins, I'm bound to eventually find a goodie, and PRESTO!! The tennis shoe did it! woohoo!

I am now taking orders for this invention. $100.00 each. I take paypal (pin-pointing metal detector not included). Disclaimer: If you fail to find a treasure, it merely means you need more practice, or there were sun-spots that day, or the treasure is there, but simply too deep, etc... etc...

 

[panthr]

I second that! The reason why I got involved in paranormal research was to encourage mainstream science to look into this stuff. I think scientists today should follow Albert Einstein's example as he looked into another controversial topic on this board... dowsing.

"I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as they do
astrology, as a type of ancient superstition. According to my
conviction this is, however, unjustified. The Dowsing rod is a
simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human nervous
system to certain factors which are unknown to us at this time."
-Albert Einstein

 

[lamar]

Dear group;
First, don't go calling Carl and SWR and others *naysyers* simply because they prefer to take a more analytical and scientific approach to so-called photographic anamolies. What they are saying is in fact the truth. I take photographs. I take LOTS of photographs, to be honest. I shoot over 50,000 images per year, every year. My dSLR camera sees a lot of use and abuse, my friends.

The photo that was originally posted above is a true anamoly, HOWEVER simply because one goes outdoors with a digital camera, or even with a film camera loaded with light sensitive film and takes photos in *pitch* darkness and then sees light colored images where there should be none is not unusual, nor is it even a strange phenomenom. The only thing it proves is that the camera is functioning in a perfectly NORMAL manner, my friends!

This is also a correct statement. A still image camera may be accurately described as nothing more than a high-tech light gathering device. Without light, there are no images. It's as simple as this. Cameras are NOT designed to take completely black images, my friends. If they were, then there would be a lot of boring photographs around. No, cameras are designed to gather in as much light as they possibly can and attempt to capture and then process this light into some type of coherent and recognizable image.

There is no such thing as *pitch darkness* when one is outdoors, my friends. There always exists some ambient light even though it may not be visible to our eyes. A camera, on the hand, is a very precise light gathering instrument and if there's any light at all then the camera will capture this light, amplify it then attempt to process it into an image.

That is EXACTLY what happened in the first photograph, my friends. The camera sampled the ambient light then it chose a super sensitive sensor setting (called the ISO in modern camera lingo and ASA in antiquated terms) and adjusted the aperture to a full, or a nearly full opening. Then it chose a low shutter speed to allow as much light as possible to be captured on the sensor. This is why the photo looks fuzzy around the edges of the light source. it was obviously moved about when the shutter was opened and capturing all available light.

I've captured breathtaking photos of statlit skies by mounting my dSLR camera on German Equatorial Mount tripod and, after opening the aperture to f/1.4 and selecting an ISO setting of 1200, proceeded to take a 5 minute exposure of our own Milky Way galaxy. The resulting photos are absolutely stunning to behold, yet one cannot see nearly the amount of fine detail with the naked eye as they can with a digital image.

The reason for this is because our brains are not wired to do what a camera can do. We can not see the very fine star clusters with our unaided eyes because, even though they are right above our heads, the images are so incredibly faint that our brain does not readily register the image as significant and it disregards it. Even if a person can not immediately see a very distant point of light on the horizon in pitch darkness, if that person were to concentrate their vision on that point long enough, the point of light would begin to reveal itself, dimly at first and then more brighter as our eyes take in more of the light source.

Also, one may expect to find many more photographic aberrations and anamolies with inexpensive point and shoot cameras that they would with a top of the line dSLR camera using top dollar lenses (glass). This is because the light source passes through the lens and when it does this the light rays tend to bend. How much they bend and how far they bend depends upon two basic factors, the quality of the lens elements and the amount of elements housed within the lens housing.

Point and shoot type of cameras are notorious for aberrations and anamolies simply because the camera manufacturers can not devote a significant amount of resources to develop and manufacture a lens group of very high quality while at the same time maintaining a low price point. A serious photographer soon realizes that it's the lenses which are more important than the camera body. For instance, my current camera body cost me 750$ whereas I have lenses in the 4,000$+ range.

The *orbs* that certain people seem to think are ghosts or other such nonsense are in reality nothing more than a portion of the ambient light source being reflected back off of one portion of the lens group and then recorded as part of the image. In other words, the *orb* is nothing more than the image of the lens being reflected back upon itself. Sometimes there are more than one orb and this same fact holds true. It's merely the lens reflection being reflected back and forth on the lens group, or even between lens groups, multiple times. One can even purchase filters in order to induce this same effect in those cases where lens reflections are desirable.

To close, the above photograph does not state there is a pot of gold nearby or that a ghost is wandering about aimlessly. It merely states that the sensor captured a light source while the camera was moving and it processed the image as such.
Your friend;
LAMAR

 

[Kentucky Kache]

The reason for this is because our brains are not wired to do what a camera can do. We can not see the very fine star clusters with our unaided eyes because, even though they are right above our heads, the images are so incredibly faint that our brain does not readily register the image as significant and it disregards it.
Your friend;
LAMAR

I know you didn't mean to, but you just answered one of the skeptics questions about why we don't see our rings glowing, etc. Thanks.

 

[lamar]

Dear Tom_in_CA;
After reading your interesting post about using a moldy tennis shoe to locate lost or hidden treasure caches, I must admit that I am now intrigued. If it's not revealing too much information, I would like to ask you a couple of rather pointed questions so that I may attempt to locate some of these caches. First, does the size of the shoe matter at all? Being a rank amateur in the field of *tennis shoe cache locating* or TSCL for short, I am assuming that a small sized shoe locates smaller caches whilst a larger sized shoe hauls in those really big ones! Is this assumption correct, my friend.

Next, does the tennis shoe need to be a certain color? I feel that white shoes would be better utilized during the hours of daylight and black shoes during the hours of darkness with grey models being used on overcast days. In this same vein, do the tennis shoes with the little LED lights embedded int he soles affect the shoe's overall sensitivity, and if so, do they improve the range or reduce it?

Overall, this is an exciting development in the field of paranormal cache hunting and I feel that you may be breaking new ground with this one, my friend! I am onboard with this revolutionary cache finding system 101% and I feel that we should now start a society to promote and advance the use of moldy tennis shoes as serious cache hunting tools. I propose the name "The Cult of the Moldly Tennis Shoes" but I am also open to suggestions for a better name for our new group.
Your CMTS member #2 friend;
LAMAR

 

[jb7487]

This:

You see, folks, here is the problem. A person makes up their mind that something is impossible and NOTHING is going to change that. No amount of proof would be sufficient. So why keep screaming you want proof? Some of you guys need to grow some testicular fortitude and stop being afraid of everything you hear that's different than what you've always been taught.

Can just as easily be turned into this:

You see, folks, here is the problem. A person makes up their mind that something is possible and NOTHING is going to change that. No amount of disproof would be sufficient. So why keep screaming you want proof. Some of you guys need to grow some testicular fortitue and stop being afraid of everything you hear that's different than what you've always believed.

See. The door swings both ways. The people here who will believe it without one shred of evidence simply because they want to believe it are just as bad as the people who won't believe it without a shred of evidence simply because they don't want to believe it.

By the way, this is a very important point: WE WANT TO BELIEVE IT! Why does everyone keep missing this point? People keep claiming that we don't believe it because we don't want to. That is not the case at all. We don't believe it because there isn't a shred of even farfetched proof out there. Quite the contrary. In fact, it is all clearly wishful thinking given that these glows can be coming from any natural or unnatural phenomenon yet everyone who believes it just happens to also believe that it MUST be caused by gold. Heck, this very thread was started by a paranormal investigator who is willing to believe that the glow is caused by gold and not by some paranormal being. Why?