Photographic glow

[Tom_in_CA]

Carl, you say: "Complete mythology" Don't you realize you're just a naysayer? Don't you realize that these folk who think outside the box will laugh at you all the way to the bank? Don't you realize doubters once thought the world was flat? Therefore, by logical deduction, anything proposed, no matter how lacking in scientific scrutiny, MUST therefore be true. Afterall, let's be open-minded, eh?

 

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[EddieR]

Wow...looks like I struck a nerve!

 

[EddieR]

Panthr, I am also a paranormal investigator. Don't let naysayers get you down...it just kills me when people shove their foot down their throat saying something doesn't exist or it's "superstition" when there is so much evidence to the contrary. Their problem is that they don't believe in something so it CAN"T be real (in their own little universe) and meanwhile the evidence mounts....but they will never look at it for fear of being proven wrong (as usual, probably).

In the photo you took, the "glow" is giving off a self-contained light, evidenced by the ground being illuminated around the area. Whatever it is, it warrants further investigation! Go back and check it out....

Eddie

heh, I have been doing this since 2003 and have performed many many investigations... 99% of them we have debunked but this is one of 3 that defies explanation. We have captured alot of EVPs at this location as well as an apparition or two. This goes way beyond superstition. My team has very highly educated people including a PhD in Microbiology and in organic chemistry. It has stumped everyone.

cool...I started back in 1994. I too have conducted many investigations....we did one a few weeks ago at our county courthouse and got a SWEET video of an apparition going up the stairs. Interestingly enough, it was recorded on the security system cameras too.

We have some highly trained people too...we have a certified hypnotherapist (she helps the naysayers ), a law enforcement officer, and a minister. Not everyone wears blinders...some people take the time to look to the sides to see whats out there...

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HIO: Back. First let me say that I highly respect Carl, and consider him a friend and love to spar with him since he is highly intelligent, but he, and the other scoffers are incorrect in this. I have posted numerous references from accredited Scientists regarding ionic break down or transformation of metals in the ground emitting visible energy. It does happen, and they do not require external light.

I have posted pictures of my part of a find of 7 muleloads of 8 Reales that was basically found by this so called fire. The final location was with a Gardner 180 detector. Carl has a couple of them in his fabulous collection. I would love to have one again since they were extremely advanced for their period, and nothing competes for covering ground with the 3 ft coil..

So yes, buried metals under certain conditions do create an ionic condition which is briefly visible. I personally know of several people that have gotten rich with these fires.

Panthr and Edde,I would like very much to see your posts of some of your experiences.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. Carl is quite correct on the faults of the Polaroid camera, but there are unexplained pictures from some which do not occur with conventional cameras with color film. Perhaps it is because of his manner of using a two color basis?

 

[scrubber]

p.s. Carl is quit correct on the faults of the Polaroid camera, but there are unexplained pictures from some which do not occur with conventional cameras with color film. Perhaps it is because of his manner of using a two color basis?

Actually, since the light can't be seen by the human eye, it must fall outside our visible spectrum. If, as you say, this has been scientifically investigated, what wavelengths is it emitted in, and what wavelengths is the camera's film emulsion capable of reproducing? For credibility, that would be a good start.

Scrubber

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hi scrubber: Reread my post, I have friends that are now relatively rich because of digging up the area where "they saw a fire".

I have no idea if this energy extends outside of the visible spectrum, since it hasn't been admitted, let alone investigated. However it must, simply because of harmonics .

I once saw a fire near Sahuaripa. It was exactly as swr described, except for no brush.. I was down in a dip in the dry river bottom fixing a flat tire when I saw this light just above my location. I assumed that it was the light from an oncoming car shinning in the dust that was in the air. but when it disappeared, curiosity finally got the better of me since I had never heard a motor so I climbed up to the top - Nothing. It was a golden color.

I have lost two treasures because of putting off the search for one reason or another. When I finally went, they were gone, but evidence had been left behind. Later I managed to track down the finders and get their stories They had found my treasures by fires. In one case I didn't feel too bad since it was an older couple that had been destitute. This made a huge difference in their lives.

What about my share of the 7 mule loads of 8 Reales? The gentleman that invited me to look for them had seen a fire in the same area over the years, but since fires seldom are above the actual location, he could never find it, hence the invitation.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[savant365]

Don Jose de La Mancha,

I have often enjoyed your posts here, could you please describe these "fires" in more detail or direct me to post or site that does. You also mentioned that the appearance of these "fires" is not directly above the location of a possible cache, what is their position relative to the location? And is it normally dark when they are visible or is it possible that they would appear as an anomaly in a picture during daylight? Thank you,

Charlie

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

thanks swr: those bought back some interesting memories. Incidentally, I hope that you noticed that I haven't modified or changed anything since then. Possibly suggesting that I am telling the truth on many things, and am at least consistant..

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Treasure finder]

Hi Panthr,
I also have a picture of a photographic glow. This picture was taken with a NIkon L1 digital camera and I
wasn't looking for anything in particular. I couldn't figure out how to crop the picture, but slightly left and
high of center there is a green glow, hope you can save it on your computer and enlarge it. I was told by
the friend I was with that the glow is above a copper mine that isn't visible in the picture. (We are both
treasure Hunters). I have heard that the glow above copper is green and blue over silver and orange or
red over gold. This is the only picture I have seen any legitimate glow over. By legitimate, I mean there
was no intent to find it, I wasn't looking for it, and I didn't know about the copper deposit. This was taken
around midday I believe and I was looking generally South. If you blow up the pix it doesn't look like al lens
flare or internal camera flare to me. I am not sure how or what, but I believe sharing is important, maybe
it will help someone.
I have previously used Infrared film and had no positive results and shot probably 10 roles of Polaroid SX-70
film trying to find treasures. I have many instances of flares, streaks, and spots on the Polaroid film, all of
which can be traced to film problems. Specifically the developing paste from the film gets on the rollers,
hardens like paint and then on the next picture the rollers squeeze unevenly and leave the anomalies.
I agree totally with Carl that the SX70 makes its own spots and I believe the SX 70 is of no help to us.
Anyhow look at my green flare and I am open to questions.
Treasure Finder
Rich

 

[Treasure finder]

Actually that UFO is the roof of a building. My picture has more pixels and it is quite clear. Probably
a building associated with the mine. I appreciate the reply, critical examination may get us somewhere.
Treasure Finder
Rich

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Your green flash also has a UFO above it, to the right. Might have had something to do with it.

Actually that UFO is the roof of a building. My picture has more pixels and it is quite clear. Probably
a building associated with the mine. I appreciate the reply, critical examination may get us somewhere.
Treasure Finder
Rich

I love it when arrogance is deflated.

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Your green flash also has a UFO above it, to the right. Might have had something to do with it.

Actually that UFO is the roof of a building. My picture has more pixels and it is quite clear. Probably
a building associated with the mine. I appreciate the reply, critical examination may get us somewhere.
Treasure Finder
Rich

I love it when arrogance is deflated.

aw...one of my lil stalkers.

Hey there good buddy!

What up, Skipper.

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

I suppose you would see fire if there were diamonds there too right? It woudn't even be fun if it was that easy! It amazes me what people are actually capable of believing sometimes.....

 

[Kentucky Kache]

I suppose you would see fire if there were diamonds there too right? It woudn't even be fun if it was that easy! It amazes me what people are actually capable of believing sometimes.....

I guess it's good that SOMETHING still amazes you.

 

[Tricia]

The green glow is light flare. Notice how the picture changes from clear to slightly out of focus, from bottom to top. More light is being concentrated at the top of the photo and some has bounced against the lens causing the flare.

As for the first picture, you say it was a humid evening? There is probably humidity on the lens and the camera couldn't focus through that spot but tried to . Therefore the focal plane encompassed the spot instead of focusing through it. In a dark picture, unless there is a target set in the viewfinder a camera will try and focus itself on anything. If that is the edge of a humidity spot, that's what the lens will capture.

Have also done many paranormal investigations over the years. Just because "bad things" have happened doesn't make a place haunted. That's like doing a PI in a cemetery. That's where the bodies are, not the souls. We're just so used to cultural references about scary grave yards and such due to exposure to books, movies, tv shows. Also why many paranormal investigations are done at night...makes for better TV and a better scare factor. Totally unnecessary. What's there at night is there in the daytime.

As for gold giving off a glow like that...there'd be a zillion pot holes everywhere and no gold left to find.

 

[Kentucky Kache]

As for gold giving off a glow like that...there'd be a zillion pot holes everywhere and no gold left to find.

Unless, as some say, the glow is not visible all the time.
Also, if only one in ten thousand people believe in such things, who would be digging the holes?

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

this friend sometimes is a little "out there"

Maybe that is your friends pot smoke drifting in front of the camera lens!

 

[ivan salis]

humm crazy as it sounds --- these days ---it is well known fact that the human body nervious system runs off of electric current --faint amouts true but none the less its there --- because of that aura photgraphs can be taken that show a "glow"of energy that runs in the human body by using specialized film --a injured body part often will not have the same amount of "glow" as a healthy one * due to the lack of energy (chi) flow in the damage / ill area --- the chinese long ago knew of "chi" or life energy route flowing thru the body and mapped out the nervious system long ago(accupressure charts) --- a very very long time before modern western medicene mapped out and understood that the nerviuos system and that it ran off of electric impluses. (early 1800 /1900 western medicence concidered chinese medicene "crackpot" ideals --that is unti lthey "discovered" it for themselves --brillant men that they were)

remember those old home made oatmeal tube "crystal" radios of old -- with those crude things ---folks learned that via the powers and abilities trapped within that crystal that one could trap radio waves --invisible waves that could transmit sound over far distances and make ultra long distance non directly linked communiacation possible * )-- sounds nuts doesn't it? -- be we all know it works !!

both of these items stand as shining exsamples that western culture at times still has a lot of science to catch up on and understtand .

just as a body of a decaying deer rots along side the road giving off gas's and smells as it decomposes (which we can smell)

matter is always in flux -- building or breaking down --- it the cycle oif existance ---differat matter breaks down at differant rates and in differant ways

so why not gold (via real ttap's explaination) giving of faint amounts of gas oe electrical impluses that we can not smell -/ easily detect natrually but can thru mechanical means ?- because gold breaks down naturally at a much slower and differant level then flesh does -- but why should there not be "detectible signs" as it decomposes ? and if one can detect those signs of gold decomposation-- then at least in theory , one could find gold by doing that.

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

Don't you realize that these folk who think outside the box will laugh at you all the way to the bank?

I don't see any of them running to the bank with large deposits! In fact I don't see any of them walking to the bank with small deposits either! Would you like to buy a "treasure map"?

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Don't you realize that these folk who think outside the box will laugh at you all the way to the bank?

I don't see any of them running to the bank with large deposits! In fact I don't see any of them walking to the bank with small deposits either! Would you like to buy a "treasure map"?

There seems to be very little you see.