Photographic glow

[jb7487]

I'm an open minded skeptic. I'd love to believe that I could find a way to use film or a camera to find gold. But I just don't believe it's possible. Why? Because if it really were possible it would be a well known fact by now. Trillions of pictures are taken every year around the world. Surely if gold consistently showed up in them then you'd have millions of people asking the camera companies and their friends what all the crazy glowing spots are in their pictures. In some places in the world, every picture taken has a fairly good possibility of there being some gold in the ground. Maybe you need a large amount of gold to give off enough of a glow to be discernable in a photo. But you would still find that there would be thousands of instances of this around the world and those instances would be followed up with stories of people actually finding gold and reporting it.

People will surely say that maybe the people who find gold through photographs keep it to themselves. Yes, that's possible. I would do the same thing. But eventually the idea would have been exposed to the general public over the years in such a way as to arouse suspicion and bring it into the public eye as fact. So I'm still open minded to the idea that it is still possible. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

Digital cameras are significantly different from normal film and even from each other. The imaging chips can pick up many light signals that our eyes can't. Unfortunately, the camera companies know this and typically insert filters to filter out these other sources of light so that they don't adversely impact picture quality. So although in theory you might think that a digital camera could be a new development that would allow people to see auras of minerals, the reality is that because of the implementation it probably isn't so. However, you are free to mess around with the lenses/filters in your camera yourself. Who knows, maybe you will find that by opening it and tweaking it your new digital camera becomes a gold sensing device!

Finally, as someone pointed out, there really isn't anything special about gold other than the fact that man has placed a high value on it. So I fail to believe that it's aura or glow will stand out above those of other materials in the ground. Why should we believe that the aura or glow of gold is somehow going to outshine that of plain old iron or any other naturally occurring substance in the ground? I think it is really just wishful thinking.

 

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[EddieR]

Why is it that just because something seems "far fetched" (i.e. we don't understand it yet), that it just can't be true? Lets go back to the gold fields...1849. Walk up to a miner and tell him you have a device that will beep when you swing it over gold....far- fetched....to him.

Some people like to go through life wearing blinders so they don't have to look to the sides...life is more comfortable to them if its all laid out before them with nothing, absolutely nothing to question.

I really pity people like that.....

 

[jb7487]

I also really pitty people who decide to believe everything that they want to believe to be true and who go through life thinking that the world is one big conspiracy theory. I agree that many people walk around with blinders on. But this door swings both ways. Wanting something to be true doesn't make it so. I really want it to be true that I could simply take a picture and find gold. And it may indeed be possible to do so but it just hasn't been shown to be plausible to the point were enough people believe it. But at this point I have to be skeptical given the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

If gold has an aura or glow in photographs then why doesn't my 14k gold ring glow in pictures? People have been taking zillions of photographs of all kinds over the years that blatantly contained small and even very large amounts of gold (jewelry, nuggets, bullion, mines, etc.) and have seen nothing at all. So why should we believe that some gold nugget burried in the ground is going to be any different? Now someone is going to come along and say that only gold that has reacted with the ground will glow. Or maybe gold itself doesn't glow, only the ground around it. And I can't disprove that at all. Buit I would think that pictures taken around mines should have shown this by now. And I still think that there is enough gold in the ground to have had a significant number of people coming forward asking about the weird glows in their photographs and that simply hasn't happened.

As for going back to 1849 and telling a gold prospector that you have a metal detector that finds gold, that is a different story. I never said that there will NEVER be technology that can see gold in the ground. I just don't think it is possible with today's photographic technology. But technology changes very rapidly and it may indeed be possible to take pictures of gold deposits in the future. When that happens the price of gold will plummet and it will no longer be considered a "treasure" though. So be careful what you wish for.

You can choose to believe what you want to believe. Again, I'm an open minded skeptic. I will gladly accept the possibility and even change my way of thinking if even a single bit of credible evidence comes along. I just haven't seen any credible evidence yet. And it's not like I wouldn't WANT to be able to modify my digital camera such that it became a gold nugget finder. I just don't have very high hopes of it being successful. If you want to take pity on me and say that I am wearing blinders then that is your perogative. Just keep in mind that I would be justified it saying the same thing about you.

 

[davidtn]

I don't know about night hunting, but a friend of mine used a Polaroid Instamatic camera to hunt buried treasure during the daytime. He would research an area, then when he got to the place he assumed to be close to the spot, he would take a photograph of the area and look for color differences in the vegetation. What was not visible to the naked eye would show in the photograph as being different colored vegetation. It seems that when precious metals are close to or underneath vegetation it causes a shade color difference that the camera can detect. He would then take his detector to that spot and check it out. Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. In this case, they were not lying.I would definitely check it out.
rockhound

And what has he found by using this technique?

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

Amen jb7487! Well said!

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

Amen Davidtn! I'm glad to know that not everyone believes in B.S.! Bravo on your superior intelligence!

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

I really pity people like that.....

It's cool, we don't pity you for ignorance!

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

If he was not pulling your leg, then he can be diagnosed as clinically delusional.

He either needs a sophisticated audience, or his medications increased.

Bravo Plehbah! I could not agree more!

 

[Dirty WhiteBoy]

Like my lucky astrology mood ring, and my 8-ball fortune teller that lead me to treasure.

You are killin me! Where is the treasure?

 

[jb7487]

One thing I think is interesting is how people end up creating stories/beliefs like this off of their desires. People believe this stuff because they really want to believe it. But from a physical/spiritual perspective there is no reason to believe that gold glows any brighter in a nightime photo than: a dead possum, iron, a moldy shoe, diamonds, poop, dog poop, rat poop, two shrews having sex, natural gas, unnatural gas, a pony, or even a twinkie. Given the nature of some of these items I would be WAY more likely to believe that an old moldy twinkie glows more at night than gold. But people don't want to believe that it is a twinkie or two shrews having sex. They want gold! And so they are willing to believe that gold will glow but they aren't willing to believe that dog poop will glow. Go figure.

The next time someone shows you a picture with a strange glow tell them that you've heard that two shrews having sex while eating twinkies have been known to show as a strange glow on nighttime photographs. Then tell them that your friend "who is a little out there" actually uses this method to find shrews at night (but don't show any evidence of any actual shrews being found). Then report back to us on the result. I guarantee you that they will tell you that you are crazy and are wearing "blinders". But tell them it could be gold, silver, or diamonds and you have a captive audience. Why do you think that is? Think about that and then let us know if you still think that we are the ones wearing blinders. :P

 

[EddieR]

Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere in my above post did I say that taking pictures of gold produces a glow phenomenon. From the posts following mine, it seems to me, in my humble opinion, that once again, the blinders have been attached.

People see and read what they want to believe....pure and simple. You don't regard my belief as plausible, yet you seem to infer that my belief is that photographs can produce light phenomena when gold is present. I never stated that. I am just intrigued at the possibility that it MIGHT occur under the right circumstances.

Call me stupid, I don't care. Call me ignorant, I don't care. Call me crazy, I don't care. I don't care for the simple fact that the people that make fun of posts like this are the ones that have been proven wrong over and over again. Absence of evidence IS NOT evidence of absence.

 

[Kentucky Kache]

The next time someone shows you a picture with a strange glow tell them that you've heard that two shrews having sex while eating twinkies have been known to show as a strange glow on nighttime photographs. Then tell them that your friend "who is a little out there" actually uses this method to find shrews at night (but don't show any evidence of any actual shrews being found). Then report back to us on the result. I guarantee you that they will tell you that you are crazy and are wearing "blinders". But tell them it could be gold, silver, or diamonds and you have a captive audience. Why do you think that is? Think about that and then let us know if you still think that we are the ones wearing blinders. :P

That would be lying. I guess that means you believe some of the above people are lying. I agree with you to some degree, but you don't sound very open minded.

Amen Davidtn! I'm glad to know that not everyone believes in B.S.! Bravo on your superior intelligence!

Well, there is intelligence, and then there are guys who actually DO things, guys like Thomas Edison. I wonder what Edison would have said if you'd told him electric light was impossible. I'm sure some of the skeptics of that day did just that. No, this is not the same thing, but the point is that if Edison had refused to believe the "impossible" then we would be having this conversation through the USPS.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Cache-Crazy: what you are basically doing, is relying on the "future science might prove it" argument. The problem with that is, that ANYTHING, no matter how silly or absurd, can also rely on the same logic. I mean: If I were to tell you: "I can sprinkle birdseed on my old moldy tennis shoe, throw it up in the air, and wherever it points to when it lands, is TREASURE! You might say "that's not scientific! that's silly!" etc... To which I merely say to you: "I wonder what Edison would have said if you'd told him electric light was impossible" Once I say that, no one can question the possibility that my treasure finding method *might* be true!

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Cache-Crazy: what you are basically doing, is relying on the "future science might prove it" argument. The problem with that is, that ANYTHING, no matter how silly or absurd, can also rely on the same logic. I mean: If I were to tell you: "I can sprinkle birdseed on my old moldy tennis shoe, throw it up in the air, and wherever it points to when it lands, is TREASURE! You might say "that's not scientific! that's silly!" etc... To which I merely say to you: "I wonder what Edison would have said if you'd told him electric light was impossible" Once I say that, no one can question the possibility that my treasure finding method *might* be true!

No, sir you can question anything, doubt anything, believe anything or wonder about anything.
I'm not relying on the "future science might prove it" argument. I'm simply taking what others have claimed to be their personal experiences. If they are correct, then it needs nothing from future science. If they are not correct, what have I lost? I'm not looking for Polaroid treasure, I just enjoy reading about all aspects of treasure hunting and trying to keep an open mind to things that MIGHT be, even if they are not necessarily in the realm of what we call normal. Why is that so uncomfortable for some people?

The main thing, for me, is not whether you believe in this kind of thing, but that you see fit to put others down who do. I can't tolerate that.

 

[RGINN]

I ain't gonna make fun of the post. There's always been stories of spook lights associated with buried treasure. I haven't personally seen any treasure dug up in relation to these lights. In the San Luis Valley there are stories about lights being seen and gold found the next day in that location. I been down there and sat up all night looking. Didn't see nothing, but didn't get abducted or mutilated either. I suppose if you believe that buried gold decomposes or whatever and gives off an aura that can be detected by photography, and you go out and find it there, and you post the pictures here, then no one can doubt. There are many strange things in this world and I try to keep an open mind, but I do like to see proof.

 

[rjw4law]

I wont debunk this, just good advise...keep diggin, dig harder, dig deeper dont stop just keep diggin, eventually there has to be something down there....Uranium?

 

[Shortstack]

Amen Davidtn! I'm glad to know that not everyone believes in B.S.! Bravo on your superior intelligence!

This is a very interesting comment. "Superior Intelligence" was displayed in abundance by credentualled physicists around the world when they were saying, There will never be a heavier-than-air vehicle with the ability to sustain flight under its own power. That was the level of "superior intelligence" until 1903 when 2 bicycle mechanics, with just high school educations, proved them wrong.

And let us not forget the "superior intelligences" that wrote letters to the US Congress imploring it to pass a federal law forbiding locomotives being built to travel faster than 23 miles per hour. This was back when better designs than The Turtle were being built and iron rails were first being put into use. Yes sir buddy! Those "superior intelligences" centered in the physical sciences with accompanying degrees, did have a firm understanding of the concept of Bernoulli's Principle, didn't they?
But, these MUST have been flukes in history.

Tesla developed the concept of alternating current that the "superior intelligence" of Thomas Edison tried to sell to the public as being too dangerous for public use. Of course, he had put all or most of his funds and all of his reputation behind direct current. Today, we commonly use that most dangerous AC current in every area of out lives.

A previous poster stated that gold degrades in the ground over time. I politely disagree. Gold is an inert material. It does not combine with oxygen to carrode, nor does it react with acidic compounds in the soils to be eaten away.....unless nature mixes up a localized batch of aqua regia. As for arsenic and mercury; these two materials do not change the molecular structure of gold, they change the physical state of the metal, but does not break down the molecules.

jb7487 mentioned that digital cameras being modified to take infrared photos. Well, that CAN be done; though it's kind of expensive. Older digital cameras can take IR photos without special modifications. If you have an older digital camera, you can test it's possibilities very easily. Turn on the camera and have the monitoring screen "on" ; then hold a TV remote control, pointed at the camera lens, then press one of the remote's button. If the remote's IR lens show up as lighted points, then that camera can be used to take IR photos with some simple techniques. First, get a true IR filter--either a Tiffen #87, a Wratten #87, or a Schott RG780 or someother comparable filter. To take true IR photos, the filter must block all visible light. You'll have to use a tripod to eliminate all movement because you'll also need to set the ISO as low as possible---no higher than about 100 or 120, and use a slower shutter speed. Start at about 4 seconds and play with it. The great thing about using a digital camera for these photography techniques is that you can see immediately whether or not the photo "came out" by looking at it in the camera's own monitor screen. NOTE: Not all digital's can do this because the manufacturers have installed more reliable internal filters. If your digital cannot pass the TV remote test; take the remote with you and go to some pawn shops and try to find one that does. You can also do this while checking for a NEW camera. Who knows---maybe the "superior intelligences" at the camera manufacturers didn't get'em ALL. The point is, the human eye sees a very narrow band in the light spectrum. We are actually pretty "handicapped" in our ability to see the universe around us. Most of us have seen how ugly old rocks can suddenly be turned into beautiful specimens when they're bathed in UV light. Does anyone here know how gold and other metals react to being bombarded with cosmic rays? Maybe there IS a type of halo affect no ones really explored; with their "superior intelligences".

I am truly amazed at the amount of closed mindedness, in the area of the sciences, displayed by some folks who protray themselves as having the ability to decipher clues to hidden wealth. But, maybe that explains why they never FIND anything.

 

[Shortstack]

I am truly amazed at the amount of closed mindedness, in the area of the sciences, displayed by some folks who protray themselves as having the ability to decipher clues to hidden wealth. But, maybe that explains why they never FIND anything.

I implore you…please do not confuse the ability to recognize pseudoscience with closed mindedness

I believe the medical arena looked at the idea of microscopic entities carrying infections and illnesses as pseudoscience; until Dr. Lister proved his theory.

 

[Montana Jim]

So... while remaining open minded but skeptical...

A few folks have can take pics with a few cameras and the gold glows like headlights?

How come then, please, the entire rest of teh human race and all the other photography equipment cannot see the gold aura? Yet - when ones gets a picture of it, we can ALL see it suddenly?

I'm also wondering why we all don't use or wedding rinds and bling as flashlights.

Seriously, no science, no actual scientific data from any credible sources listed? No slight to the f9olks who claim to have seen this glow/aura, but why so little known about it?

Does is blend with the other slightly supernatural and slightly psudo-reality type iffy beliefs about wonderous and only seldom witnessed events?

Some one post a site or article about the glow please so I can learn more...

 

[Shortstack]

So... while remaining open minded but skeptical...

A few folks have can take pics with a few cameras and the gold glows like headlights?

How come then, please, the entire rest of teh human race and all the other photography equipment cannot see the gold aura? Yet - when ones gets a picture of it, we can ALL see it suddenly?

I'm also wondering why we all don't use or wedding rinds and bling as flashlights.

Seriously, no science, no actual scientific data from any credible sources listed? No slight to the f9olks who claim to have seen this glow/aura, but why so little known about it?

Does is blend with the other slightly supernatural and slightly psudo-reality type iffy beliefs about wonderous and only seldom witnessed events?

Some one post a site or article about the glow please so I can learn more...

I don't believe I have EVER read such a mangling of a heretofore simple set of statements. You have masterfully bungled the interpretation of a very good (even if I do say so myself) dissertation of the present state of affairs in today's scientific arena. You deserve an award.