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Hello everyone, just an update, been MIA a bit, haven't been feeling well, so I took a step back from everything. Have had a ton of doctors appointments over the last few months. Been poked, prodded, had CT scans of this and that and everything in-between. Never know if I coming or going anymore it seems.

Now for a feel good story (Long read).

Back in 2017, we found a WWII made (Schlueter) M1 helmet, with a named WWII liner in it at a local antique store.

Initial research was a bit weird, as it had a pre WWII enlisted service number in it, plus I would also find a officers service number associated with the name. Would turn out this soldier served from Jan 1937 to Oct 1962. Went from E-1 to E-7 (Highest enlisted rank at the time). Then during the Korean War he would earn a Silver Star and a Battlefield Commision, so went from O-1 to O-3, reverted back to E-7 later, then went to E-8 and E-9.

Back in 2018 a great grandson reached out to me about a post of mine about the helmet on a militaria site. Right after reaching out to me, that site crashed and all posts for a week or so where lost, which included the PMs between us. I was never able to find him. End of story until Wednesday

Update on the story of this helmet and liner. I had the pleasure of talking with this soldiers youngest son (Yes his son) today. It was awesome talking to him and learning more about his father and his career. Great guy to talk to, and we talked about an even greater man.

This past Wednesday, the youngest son was researching some stuff on his father, before his planned trip to France/Normandy this coming year, he finds my post on a militaria forum and is floored. There's his dad's liner, his picture, etc. He PMed me and we connected by phone and chatted, like old friends, regardless of the age difference. Connected by one thing in common, a man I never met, his father. He shared some family pictures with me, that alone was something in itself.

I've been the caretaker of this helmet and liner and the narrator of this man's heroic story for about 6 1/2 years now. But it's time for its long journey to come to an end and for it to finally go home.

As hard as it is to let it go, we'll be sending the helmet and liner to the son, to display with his father's medals and mementos.

I haven't, will not, and can't ask for any monetary reimbursement/compensation. My wife and I discussed it and we're both on the same page on this, and feel it would be wrong in our opinion to do so. Besides she told me she'd beat me to within an inch of my life if I even thought it.

My wife and I are both military brats of career Air Force dads, and I'm also retired AF. So we both understand the connection to things like this.

But in all fairness his son is adamant that he wants to share something of his dad's with me.

I look forward to seeing the helmet displayed with his medals and picture. In a sense the Old Soldier Is Coming Home, although it might have been a long strange journey.

I know the helmet will be welcomed and cherished by them, and it will be a bittersweet day for me, by letting go of something from my collection. But I guess it never really belonged to me, I was just its temporary caretaker and story teller.

I will now be on the hunt for a WWII M1 shell and liner to add back into my collection.

Original post for the helmet.

 

Wishing you a steady recovery with what you're dealing with.
Great news on the connection with the family and the return of the helmet.

An Honorable Mention would be great for your unselfish return.
 

Nice going Sarge! Navy brat myself. Did you discover how the helmet/liner made it to the antique store to begin with?
 

Nice going Sarge! Navy brat myself. Did you discover how the helmet/liner made it to the antique store to begin with?
With talking with the family, as far as we/they know it was never in the families procession. So maybe a collector or picker found it, and passed it on to the antique store.

Our working theory is, that as property of the Army, it was at some point turned into supply, sent somewhere else within the Army where it sat in storage and later surplused out. When I found it, the liner had a tag on it for a California National Guard unit. He was never in the NG, he did Active Duty service only.

Me finding it was like winning the Lottery. The fact that I found it in the Florida Panhandle, and the family is in/from Louisiana is just strange. It was literally found 7 hours driving time from them. This is proof that miracles can happen I guess.
 

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After digging through 18 totes of militaria, we opened the final tote and on the bottom was the helmet. The reason for all the totes is my stuff/militaria is awaiting the garage enclosure, so I can once again display all my stuff.

The liner is a WWII made liner, the helmet is a Schlueter made one. They only made helmets during WWII. The helmet shell has the correct cork finish (Sand/Silica is on the Vietnam Era helmets). The paint looks to be a Korean War repaint in that it's dark olive drab. The pea green color shells are Vietnam Era repaints or manufactured ones.

Deciding on whether to order a replacement chin strap for the shell and the leather chin strap for the liner. So it would look complete. That way they'll get a display ready helmet.

Pic 1 His name and his pre WWII service number. Think for a minute, this is written in his own hand.

Pic 2 Overall liner shot. Think about it, the liner is stained with dirt, sweat, tears, etc.

Pic 3 Dented well used helmet.

Pic 4 Overall shot of the helmet.

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Great pictures. I believe that is what was referred to as a "steel pot"?

Yeap, good ole Steel Pot, we wore them up into the 90s. Before switching to the Kevlar helmet. I still have my M1 that was issued to me in 1986.

Here's an old picture of mine.

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Thatโ€™s a great story. My fatherโ€™s friend was very proud of his service. When he was very ill, his cull son cleaned his house out and put his uniforms and medals on Craigslist and sold them. I cannot say what I think of people like that. His father was one of the greatest generations, and when asked by his dad about this he didnโ€™t lie. Not to throw a wet blanket on your story, but rather highlight how great it really is.
 

Well since the helmet was missing its chin straps and so was the liner. We decided to order replacement ones and will install them prior to shipping. This way he'll get a complete item to display right out of the box.

Didn't notice it at the time, but the helmet sat atop the microwave, directly behind my chair looking over our Thanksgiving meal. Sort of ironic and fitting per se.
 

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