somehiker
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One of the arguments against the relatively large and heavy "museum stones" has always been based on the portability factor.....ie. that maps on paper or skin would have made more sense for someone traveling to and from a mine or treasure site.
Although I can't disagree with that, I have always countered that having been found buried in the desert, both the media and the size would make sense, IF the maker or makers had planned to cache them somewhere along a certain route...that they had to include a significant but minimum amount of information...and they also had to be very resistant to rot or animal/insect depredation. Too heavy for example, for a coyote or javalina to dig up and scatter, or just leave exposed, and nothing that any insect or rodent would find appetizing. Once recovered by someone who had a map ( like Pegleg's "ground map" ) or even fairly simple directions to where they were buried, they could then be copied onto a media more suitable for travel through the mountains, and reburied, both for security reasons and for possible repeated use if the target was a group of mines or a substantial cache of valuables.
That argument and possible explanation would no longer apply however, if as we have learned from Ryan, that the "real" stones found by Travis are actually a set of five much smaller stones. Such a revelation changes not just the rules, but the game itself. Just as Travis titled his manuscript....for some time a "holy grail" of Travis lore for some folks seeking enlightenment..."Challenge for Superstition Gold"...these five stones and what might be on them will present a new challenge for those of us with any remaining wish to see the truth at the end of the trail.
But we know that Travis spent a considerable amount of time searching the Sups for something of value, not the LDM, but "Peralta treasure rooms"
as Ryan called them, using the "ground map" we are now told instead of any of the stones we were previously aware of.....either found or fabricated.
None of us remaining within this discussion have seen the ground map, but we have been told that it covers an area much larger than any or all of these two sets of stones apply to. We have been told that the "museum (trail) stones" were carved by Travis and reflect only part of the ground map, and that the five smaller stones also contain parts of what is on the ground map.
Knowing that Travis also had an interest in native artifacts, arrowheads and carved stones etc., and that he had some of these things in his collection, it occurred to me that Travis probably would have done research and reading about what the various prehistoric and pre-hispanic cultures of the southwest may have left behind in Arizona.
Especially the many types of petroglyphs and carved symbols such as those I posted earlier, and how to differentiate them from those made by "the Peraltas" and anyone else who may have cached "treasure" out there.
As a result, he may have been familiar with the Hopi Prophecy Rock and the four small stones that remain in the tribe's possession to this day. If so, is it not possible that he also fabricated these five small stones, basing the idea and their configuration on published drawings of the Hopi stones ?
With that in mind, and because of the fact that at least one of the maps previously posted was actually a slightly modified version of one that was already well known to long time DHrs, I thought it might be a good idea to give Ryan a "heads up"....just in case.
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