Opinions on this KGC "Vault"

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I believe individuals are still hiding money, guns, etc. but secret groups putting money into the ground in todays date doesn't make sense. Offshore accounts that draw interest seems more logical. Why would any secret group with knowledge of treasure on public land leave it there? Wouldn't they buy the land if it was in private hands and post no trespassing signs on it? These are just a few questions us jokers are asking.

fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt
 

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Got to go with SWR on this one, a forum that doesn't allow discussion or a difference of opinion isn't a forum. If you guys want to keep your info private and not have anybody question the alleged authenticity of your information I would think e-mail would be the way to go. I'm sure I'm on the "out" list and that doesn't bother me at all.

Submit a blacked out copy of my DL? There are so many things wrong with that idea I can't even begin to name them.

It just seems you KGC believers don't like logic and don't want anyone to add it to the discussion. I don't know of any discussion that isn't helped by an infusion of logic and actual discussion. Having all the same opinion stops the learning/searching process.


"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking"
 

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okietreasurehunter said:
I believe individuals are still hiding money, guns, etc. but secret groups putting money into the ground in todays date doesn't make sense. Offshore accounts that draw interest seems more logical. Why would any secret group with knowledge of treasure on public land leave it there? Wouldn't they buy the land if it was in private hands and post no trespassing signs on it? These are just a few questions us jokers are asking.

fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt

Hi Okie. Believe it or not, we agree on something once again! Miracles still happen, I guess. :) I'm in total agreement about secret groups, like the Masons and others, having no need to risk leaving any treasure they know about in the ground. Where we may not agree is that I believe these groups control most of the world's economy, and thus the banks, so they would surely have transferred the vast KGC treasures to their highly secure bank vaults long before now if they knew where they were. I'm not sure what the watchers and stalkers plan to do with their stolen KGC treasures, that they beat us to or cheat us out of, but I think they use it for their own personal monetary benefit. Maybe that is why they mostly drive new expensive automobiles like the old Mason who who has been stalking my KGC hunting partner and I around central Texas. He alternately drives a Lincoln Navigator and a Mercedes Benz. If they knew where these treasure caches were, they would have already gotten them all and safely stored them away instead of following us all around and monitoring us 24/7. They would also have no need for the paid informants who scour the Net fishing for information about more possible or probable KGC sites.
~Texas Jay
 

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Is the pay any good? I will be spending some time just sitting around, I wouldn't mind making some extra money! :laughing9:
 

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alec said:
Is the pay any good? I will be spending some time just sitting around, I wouldn't mind making some extra money! :laughing9:

Alec and Okie, contact me privately and I will send you the old Mason's license plate numbers so you can contact him about applying for a job. The pay is apparently quite good. It probably pays better than looking for "outlaw caches". ha.
~Texas Jay
 

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You don't think these is any other reason you might be seeing this guy driving around? He has to be following you because you are on the trail of a big KGC depository? Being a little paranoid is fine but it sems a lot of the KGC people seem to think they are being followed or watched. Why not just ask the guy what he's doing or get somebody to run the tag for you and find out who he is.

Maybe he's the land owner or some other person that has a good reason for being where he is. Maybe he's even another treasure hunter working the same spot and is trying to figure out what you are up to.

There are lots of non-nefarious reasons for seeing the things you think you are seeing.

I'd still apply for that job though! :laughing9:
 

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Texas Jay said:
okietreasurehunter said:
I believe individuals are still hiding money, guns, etc. but secret groups putting money into the ground in todays date doesn't make sense. Offshore accounts that draw interest seems more logical. Why would any secret group with knowledge of treasure on public land leave it there? Wouldn't they buy the land if it was in private hands and post no trespassing signs on it? These are just a few questions us jokers are asking.

fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt

Hi Okie. Believe it or not, we agree on something once again! Miracles still happen, I guess. :) I'm in total agreement about secret groups, like the Masons and others, having no need to risk leaving any treasure they know about in the ground. Where we may not agree is that I believe these groups control most of the world's economy, and thus the banks, so they would surely have transferred the vast KGC treasures to their highly secure bank vaults long before now if they knew where they were. I'm not sure what the watchers and stalkers plan to do with their stolen KGC treasures, that they beat us to or cheat us out of, but I think they use it for their own personal monetary benefit. Maybe that is why they mostly drive new expensive automobiles like the old Mason who who has been stalking my KGC hunting partner and I around central Texas. He alternately drives a Lincoln Navigator and a Mercedes Benz. If they knew where these treasure caches were, they would have already gotten them all and safely stored them away instead of following us all around and monitoring us 24/7. They would also have no need for the paid informants who scour the Net fishing for information about more possible or probable KGC sites.
~Texas Jay


If the Masons controlled the banks then they could stop their lodges from merging with others or going defunct for not having the money to pay the bills. Sadly they can't.
 

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It's true that many lodges are failing from lack of participation . While I am not pointing a finger at any specific group as being responsible for the shadowing and snooping ; there definitely some entity that is extremely too interested in what we are doing . Several of us have
posted incedents of this as proof .
Jim
 

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Walker Colt: If you will read my message more carefully, you will see that I was referring to "secret groups, like the Masons and others..." and not to the Masons specifically. I also said that one of our watchers, who we've identified as being a Mason, and others who stalk KGC hunters are doing it probably for their "own personal monetary benefit" and not to finance their organizations' operations. I will not be drawn into a "world-wide conspiracy" argument on this board as it is not the purpose of this forum and, based on my own experience, is not the reason that KGC hunters are having their sites invaded and their and the landowners' rightful treasures stolen from them. One word will suffice: GREED.
~Texas Jay
 

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For all the secret organizations, government officials, etc reading the forums Alec and I would like to fill out applications for forum monitors. LOL We are able to weed through the bull and find you the golden nuggets of truth. Please feel free to e-mail us.
 

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But the pay has to be decent and we want benifits! :laughing9:
 

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There was a time , where I live , when the first person to spy a team of revenoores coming up
the hollows would set off a stick of dinniemite on a ridge to warn everybody else to douse their fires and unass their still sites .
Is it coming to that , again ? ;D
Jim
 

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Two of my great grandfathers were moonshiners. I actually know where a jug of shine was buried by one of them. That might be a story for the blog if I ever get the chance to dig it up. Alec, can we get paid vacations as well. Medical and dental would be good as well. If the government contacts us I'd like to get a senators benefit package. If it's the KGC we can just see what they offer. LOL
 

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okietreasurehunter said:
Two of my great grandfathers were moonshiners. I actually know where a jug of shine was buried by one of them. That might be a story for the blog if I ever get the chance to dig it up. Alec, can we get paid vacations as well. Medical and dental would be good as well. If the government contacts us I'd like to get a senators benefit package. If it's the KGC we can just see what they offer. LOL

Too late, guys. After realizing how much KGC treasure these guys have recovered, I've decided to go ahead and apply for the job myself. I may have to join the local lodge but what the heck. ;D
~Texas Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bloodybillandersonmystery
 

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I'm beginning to think Jay has uncovered the scheme to open multiple vaults
not for personal profit but to fund this organization's debts and expansion pro-
jects. At first I thought he was mimicking SwS watchers fears but now I think
with two separate incidents so far apart it may be deliberate espionage activity.
Also I trust TB's validation. If you go back to the beginning of this thread
others and I urged SwS to proceed hastily. Well before hospital needs. The
longer you let it go unconcluded the tougher it gets to maintain secrecy. SwS
gave up too many clues (in other venues) for the site to remain hidden long.
Now with Jay/Colin being monitored too, Jay's forum and this site is compro-
mised. Be careful who you guys bring in, you never know who might be holding a joker. I know, I know, no comedians allowed.
 

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Paranoia is a (maybe imbalanced) state of mind . When you have multiple incedents that can and have been documented , paranoia is removed from the equasion . It becomes 'Watch your
back'.
That's what we are doing in screening who we talk with in any venue other than private , word of mouth exchanges .
How many of you are aware of the fact that using a word as innocuous as president in a casual phone conversation will get your entire call recorded and analyzed in Ft Belvoir , VA ?
Jim
 

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If you are this worried about "incidents" why are you chatting on an open forum? I think I would just keep to myself and go about my recovery. At the very least I would only contact members privately if I had questions. By making yourselves known on the forum wouldn't that make you more of a target if someone was out there watching? I'm personally not to worried and there's just as good a chance of me making a recovery as anyone else on here.
 

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In treasure hunting there's always the possibility someone might be watching you providing they know you are a treasure hunter and think you may know where a treasure is and are about to make a recovery and it's worth their time and effort to follow you and they think they can steal it from you and so on but in reality, that is extremely rare. The only times I know of it happening are in the movies, an occasional time or two in the Superstitions and with every person that believes in the KGC mega bucks depositories.

I have been in a few of the alleged mega bucks areas and nobody has ever followed me, or bothered me or gave me a reason to be suspicious. If and that's a big if, these things are actually happening then there is probably a better explanation than some secret group watching a treasure hunter because they are about to recover a big treasure.

How would the secret group even know who you are much less what you are doing? How would they know there is a big treasure in the area you are looking in without already knowing to look for it themselves? Wouldn't they be spending more money following you around and flying helicopters than they would if they were just looking for the treasure themselves?

I could go on and on with the logical questions but hopefully you see my point. The chances of someone being followed around by anyone, much less a secret group because they are treasure hunting are pretty slim and probably none, in my opinion.
 

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