One Dowsed observation

[Limitool]

That wasn't Dowsing content you posted. It was the same stuff you posted many times before.
I'm not following you because, I'm not sure what your trying to say.
This topic is One Dowsed observation. Not Tora!, Tora! Tora!

Dowser.... We're trying to understand what YOUR saying. You post a lot of non-dowsing content and that is what I'm trying to understand. When I inquire you just deflect, defend and/or ignore any interest addressing what you posted. I'm defending absolutely nothing.... I'm seeking to understanding your comments and why you feed into your own skepticism. Below are things YOU POSTED without an ounce of explanation from you or after when asked.

NON-DOWSING OBSERVATIONS...

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

What unwanted fame or hate would come from "proving dowsing" as you claim...? I/we all thought that was exactly what you were trying to do all along (prove it). What are we missing if we're wrong? This does nothing it seems but feed into our skepticism you want to escape...? You come across as wanting it both ways. You want to be believed without presenting any of your proof because of fame or hate. What fame are you referencing...?

dowser: "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"

So.... If it's real and proven what more do you want..? Isn't that YOUR goal...?

dowser: "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."

You state all the time you want to show people how. Again, why care about any hate mail. And who would take an interest in "hate mail"...? Why would you even think people would be interested in it..?

dowser: "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."

Nobel cause.... but if your interest has changed that's totally up to you.

dowser: "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"

That's quite the leap that somehow someone would be "famous" proving dowsing. Why do you believe fame would follow. Again, that's quite the leap of thought.

dowser: "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."

Your sir need the proof and I guess your trying to learn how to do it. Dowser not once did I attack your dowsing posts or your desire to learn dowsing or to show others. But you complain about the skeptics and then you post comments like the 6 above which just feed into it. Then you attack me for asking about them because "I'm defending" something...? This thread you started isn't about me or anyone else... it's all about your dowsing content and comments around it. YOU WROTE the above non-dowsing comments about what you do. And you are afraid of skepticism dowser and play right into it with the above comments.

I hope you do prove dowsing and what you claim you can do. I wish ya the best in proving it to yourself and then showing us. Maybe then you'll find something of value. I'm NOT attacking you sir... but seek to understand why you post comments like above and then ignore them when questioned?

 

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[dowser]

Dowser.... We're trying to understand what YOUR saying. You post a lot of non-dowsing content and that is what I'm trying to understand. When I inquire you just deflect, defend and/or ignore any interest addressing what you posted. I'm defending absolutely nothing.... I'm seeking to understanding your comments and why you feed into your own skepticism. Below are things YOU POSTED without an ounce of explanation from you or after when asked.

NON-DOWSING OBSERVATIONS...

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

What unwanted fame or hate would come from "proving dowsing" as you claim...? I/we all thought that was exactly what you were trying to do all along (prove it). What are we missing if we're wrong? This does nothing it seems but feed into our skepticism you want to escape...? You come across as wanting it both ways. You want to be believed without presenting any of your proof because of fame or hate. What fame are you referencing...?

dowser: "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"

So.... If it's real and proven what more do you want..? Isn't that YOUR goal...?

dowser: "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."

You state all the time you want to show people how. Again, why care about any hate mail. And who would take an interest in "hate mail"...? Why would you even think people would be interested in it..?

dowser: "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."

Nobel cause.... but if your interest has changed that's totally up to you.

dowser: "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"

That's quite the leap that somehow someone would be "famous" proving dowsing. Why do you believe fame would follow. Again, that's quite the leap of thought.

dowser: "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."

Your sir need the proof and I guess your trying to learn how to do it. Dowser not once did I attack your dowsing posts or your desire to learn dowsing or to show others. But you complain about the skeptics and then you post comments like the 6 above which just feed into it. Then you attack me for asking about them because "I'm defending" something...? This thread you started isn't about me or anyone else... it's all about your dowsing content and comments around it. YOU WROTE the above non-dowsing comments about what you do. And you are afraid of skepticism dowser and play right into it with the above comments.

I hope you do prove dowsing and what you claim you can do. I wish ya the best in proving it to yourself and then showing us. Maybe then you'll find something of value. I'm NOT attacking you sir... but seek to understand why you post comments like above and then ignore them when questioned?

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

 

[signal_line]

Dowser.... We're trying to understand what YOUR saying. You post a lot of non-dowsing content and that is what I'm trying to understand. When I inquire you just deflect, defend and/or ignore any interest addressing what you posted. I'm defending absolutely nothing.... I'm seeking to understanding your comments and why you feed into your own skepticism. Below are things YOU POSTED without an ounce of explanation from you or after when asked.

NON-DOWSING OBSERVATIONS...

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

What unwanted fame or hate would come from "proving dowsing" as you claim...? I/we all thought that was exactly what you were trying to do all along (prove it). What are we missing if we're wrong? This does nothing it seems but feed into our skepticism you want to escape...? You come across as wanting it both ways. You want to be believed without presenting any of your proof because of fame or hate. What fame are you referencing...?

dowser: "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"

So.... If it's real and proven what more do you want..? Isn't that YOUR goal...?

dowser: "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."

You state all the time you want to show people how. Again, why care about any hate mail. And who would take an interest in "hate mail"...? Why would you even think people would be interested in it..?

dowser: "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."

Nobel cause.... but if your interest has changed that's totally up to you.

dowser: "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"

That's quite the leap that somehow someone would be "famous" proving dowsing. Why do you believe fame would follow. Again, that's quite the leap of thought.

dowser: "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."

Your sir need the proof and I guess your trying to learn how to do it. Dowser not once did I attack your dowsing posts or your desire to learn dowsing or to show others. But you complain about the skeptics and then you post comments like the 6 above which just feed into it. Then you attack me for asking about them because "I'm defending" something...? This thread you started isn't about me or anyone else... it's all about your dowsing content and comments around it. YOU WROTE the above non-dowsing comments about what you do. And you are afraid of skepticism dowser and play right into it with the above comments.

I hope you do prove dowsing and what you claim you can do. I wish ya the best in proving it to yourself and then showing us. Maybe then you'll find something of value. I'm NOT attacking you sir... but seek to understand why you post comments like above and then ignore them when questioned?

When using a frequency generator for map “dowsing” and you get a rod response, if you change the frequency it goes dead. So it’s doing something.

 

[dowser]

When using a frequency generator for map “dowsing” and you get a rod response, if you change the frequency it goes dead. So it’s doing something.

I did start trying map dowsing, and had slight results.
I'll stick to BOTG. If I Dowse a Gold signal in the map, then travel there. It would be a disappointment if it was buried in a caved in, hard rock mine..

 

[robertk]

If I Dowse a Gold signal in the map, then travel there. It would be a disappointment if it was buried in a caved in, hard rock mine..

If I map dowsed gold, then went there and found a mine, I'd be ecstatic.

 

[Limitool]

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

Ok dowser if that's the way you want it we'll take them one at a time then.... I seek to understand what the 1st. below statement has to do with any dowsing observations. It feeds skepticism I believe.

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

QUESTION: What does proving dowsing have to do with fame and/or hate...?

 

[Limitool]

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

And this leads to question #2 brought on by your statement below. This also feeds into the skepticism I believe.

dowser: "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"

QUESTION: What do those people have to do with dowsing if you prove it's real? I thought that was your whole goal. You shouldn't care about things you can't control. It feeds into skepticism.

 

[Limitool]

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

And here's another statement below I don't understand by you. You write all the time about showing others and offer to help others into dowsing. And again.... Your posted statement feeds into the skepticism.

dowser: "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."

QUESTION: Why offer to help people and worry about "hate mail" if you've proven dowsing? We all thought that was your goal or intent. Again you can't control people or responses. Nobody would give a hoot about taking time to write "hate mail" if it's proven and nor should you even care. Again your comment fuels the skepticism.

 

[Limitool]

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

You posted many comments on the below statement. It was a noble goal / endeavor.

dowser: "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."

QUESTION: Why did you quit that goal...?

 

[Limitool]

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

The below comment really confuses me. It makes me wonder why you think about fame being associated with dowsing.

dowser: "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"

QUESTION: How do you associate fame with dowsing...?

That's quite the leap that somehow you believe someone would be "famous". I thought there were dowsers all around the world.

 

[dowser]

Ok dowser if that's the way you want it we'll take them one at a time then.... I seek to understand what the 1st. below statement has to do with any dowsing observations. It feeds skepticism I believe.

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

QUESTION: What does proving dowsing have to do with fame and/or hate...?

I'm disliked because I'm a Dowser..You can't see that! My beliefs are totally different from Physicists and Scientists. They won't look this way..

 

[dowser]

And this leads to question #2 brought on by your statement below. This also feeds into the skepticism I believe.

dowser: "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"

QUESTION: What do those people have to do with dowsing if you prove it's real? I thought that was your whole goal. You shouldn't care about things you can't control. It feeds into skepticism.

They would complain towards me.

 

[dowser]

And here's another statement below I don't understand by you. You write all the time about showing others and offer to help others into dowsing. And again.... Your posted statement feeds into the skepticism.

dowser: "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."

QUESTION: Why offer to help people and worry about "hate mail" if you've proven dowsing? We all thought that was your goal or intent. Again you can't control people or responses. Nobody would give a hoot about taking time to write "hate mail" if it's proven and nor should you even care. Again your comment fuels the skepticism.

I have no choice, someone should prove Dowsing for health benefits research.
I don't see anyone else researching frequency health..
My comments are only fueling your skepticism. If I don't understand why your upset, I can't comment correctly.
Dowsing is more than just Gold and Silver, I proved that with my tests!

 

[dowser]

You posted many comments on the below statement. It was a noble goal / endeavor.

dowser: "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."

QUESTION: Why did you quit that goal...?

I quit wanting when I keep getting attacked writing my beliefs.. What I mean by being attacked is, being argued with a out Dowsing, by someone that won't ever pick up a rod to confirm what I say..

 

[dowser]

The below comment really confuses me. It makes me wonder why you think about fame being associated with dowsing.

dowser: "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"

QUESTION: How do you associate fame with dowsing...?

That's quite the leap that somehow you believe someone would be "famous". I thought there were dowsers all around the world.

That's obvious.. Dowsing hasn't been proved. It only takes one to prove it.
I'd be proving active Quantum Frequencies, you can call it Dowsing. Its not that simple.

 

[Limitool]

I don't mind answering your questions, but I don't respond to multiple questions at once.
Be specific so I can understand what your confused about.. I don't know where to begin, on answering all that.
I'm gonna say Signal lines post is 100 percent correct to all my tests. Thank goodness for someone..

And then you post the below statement and know what's being read and what isn't somehow. I don't understand how you know this or what you want us to understand.

dowser: "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."

QUESTION: We're not the ones trying to prove your dowsing so aren't you the one who needs the proof sir...?

 

[weregolf]

I guess it’s time for me to step in here and help clear the air. There are two types of “dowsing”. There is the physical and the mental or etheric plane and the astral plane. The physical is like walking out in the field with a dowsing rod or forked stick. When you get near or on line with the target you get a rod response. There is a 45 degree cone surrounding the target that can be sensed and determines the depth of the target. You stand over the target and walk out away from it. When the rod responds that distance is the depth of the target. Now with mental “dowsing” you stand over the target and start counting the feet of depth. So when the rod responds that is the approximate depth. Or you can tend of feet or hundreds of feet. You see there is no physical factor here, it’s all in your head. This type of “dowsing” is very prone to errors. The physical is more accurate. Another example of mental “dowsing” is map “dowsing”. Yes, this can work, but if everything is not right it’s a lot like using an Ouija board. Some people use a frequency generator set at a certain frequency to get a resonance with the target. This can more accurate that free wheeling it. But the frequency must be accurate, not just some number grabbed out of the air. There are many harmonics that can send you out on a tangent.

signal_line, map dowsing can be not mental you are testing the wrong methods, on a table put two equal coins separated by a distance of 7cm then pass the pendulum in the middle or between the 2 coins, you will hit a blockage its an imaginary line that exists between the 2 coins because they are made of same material. This method can be used in map dowsing, so, you put the witness(coin) over the printed picture then search around the witness the imaginary line
..voila you have accurate map dowsing

Now, what you hit with this line? an object, mineral, ring or treasure?
..that is treasure hunting in maps with dowsing
..you hit something then you have to find the way to determine what are you hitting
This type of dowsing (physical) its limited to 25 meters of deep

 

[dowser]

All your fame questions don't make sense.
If you found a world famous treasure, and the whole world finds out you did it controversially.
Don't call it famous, call it attention. It will draw world wide attention and curiosity, that's all.

 

[dowser]

And then you post the below statement and know what's being read and what isn't somehow. I don't understand how you know this or what you want us to understand.

dowser: "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."

QUESTION: We're not the ones trying to prove your dowsing so aren't you the one who needs the proof sir...?

Why do I need to prove my Dowsing content?
What is the substance of your argument, it's empty, no fact to prove your argument..

 

[robertk]

Why do I need to prove my Dowsing content?
What is the substance of your argument, it's empty, no fact to prove your argument..

It seems to me that this is the whole problem with your argument.

Dowsing is more than just Gold and Silver, I proved that with my tests!

What have you proven? I haven't seen any proof of anything, just claim after claim with unjustified conclusions. You claim to have healed people with frequencies, but there is no proof. You claim to have dowsed gold and silver, but there is no proof. You claim to have dowsed a photon, but there is no proof (photons, by the way, move at 186,000 miles per second -- talk about a moving target). You claim all kinds of things, but then you have a dozen reasons why none of them are verifiable.

Maybe it would help to clarify "proof". To me, proof means that you can reliably and accurately get a result that could not be simple chance, and which could be independently verified. Ideally, the same method should be employable by a third party to produce an identical result. That's scientific proof. (And don't try to deflect and say this isn't science, because it is. You're talking about frequencies and quantum mechanics and photons and EMF and similar issues, all of which are well studied. If you want to say it's all psychic or astral or something along that line, then that's fine, but then you don't need all these "sciencey" bits to dress it up.)