One Dowsed observation

[robertk]

If you were paying attention, explain the basics of what Dowsing is that I wrote about.. Then I'll believe you to be sincere.

That isn't necessary. You're deflecting. I don't have to understand how a metal detector works internally to swing it around and find stuff. Likewise, I don't need to understand master frequencies and drains and whatever else (more on that in a minute) to understand whether or not you use your methods to find something conclusively. (And yes, I read about your diamond-under-a-cup experiment but I'm not convinced by that for a number of reasons.)

Our cell phones are Quantum computers, they are attached to their owners by frequency connection "familiar" It knows it belongs to you.

This is one of the places you lose me. Our cell phones are not quantum computers. They are not mystically magically attached to their owners, and they don't "know" anything about anything since they are not conscious. So when you make claims like this, I don't understand at all because from my point of view, it makes no sense at all. I'm fairly well read on quantum mechanics, particle physics, EMF radiation, relativity, space/time, and even (believe it or not) the paranormal and mysticism. If you want me, and others, to understand your process, start by explaining some of this stuff. Or just get skip straight to the finds, because like I said, we don't need to understand the process to understand results.

And by the way, just to be clear, I never intended to imply you were lying. I may not think something is correct, but that doesn't mean I think it's a lie. There's a difference. For example, someone may believe the moon is made of cheese -- it isn't, but if they believe it is, then they're not lying, they're just wrong.

 

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[dowser]

That isn't necessary. You're deflecting. I don't have to understand how a metal detector works internally to swing it around and find stuff. Likewise, I don't need to understand master frequencies and drains and whatever else (more on that in a minute) to understand whether or not you use your methods to find something conclusively. (And yes, I read about your diamond-under-a-cup experiment but I'm not convinced by that for a number of reasons.)


This is one of the places you lose me. Our cell phones are not quantum computers. They are not mystically magically attached to their owners, and they don't "know" anything about anything since they are not conscious. So when you make claims like this, I don't understand at all because from my point of view, it makes no sense at all. I'm fairly well read on quantum mechanics, particle physics, EMF radiation, relativity, space/time, and even (believe it or not) the paranormal and mysticism. If you want me, and others, to understand your process, start by explaining some of this stuff. Or just get skip straight to the finds, because like I said, we don't need to understand the process to understand results.

And by the way, just to be clear, I never intended to imply you were lying. I may not think something is correct, but that doesn't mean I think it's a lie. There's a difference. For example, someone may believe the moon is made of cheese -- it isn't, but if they believe it is, then they're not lying, they're just wrong.

I wish you would ask one question at a time. But I'll try to explain.
If I convince/change a skeptic on here of dowsing, the world stays the same, nothing changes.
If I convince the world of Dowsing, the world changes. What's argued about on here is irrelivent..
If you say our phones aren't computers, that is contradicting my belief and proof. That is an argument, not a discussion.
I wasn't the one that said, everything is Energy, Frequency, Vibration, but it is! What replaces that? Not EMF!
I was posting in general about lying, not you specifically. Some comments I get are arguing proof I posted. Some comments are ridiculous. To read all these Topics and posts of tests and experiments, and not believe.. oh well, no big deal..

 

[TORRERO]

I've already figured out how to change the phone frequency to an unused Quantum Frequency, like 2 Hz. Our cell phone frequency becomes harmless, it gets overridden.
Good question!

But you can't change everyone else's phones just have to live with it ..

 

[TORRERO]

they are attached to their owners by frequency connection "familiar" It knows it belongs to you

Say What ?

So because it "knows" me, it "knows" not to work for anyone else, so if it's stolen I'm safe ? (Or my phone and info?)

 

[dowser]

But you can't change everyone else's phones just have to live with it ..

Not me, the gov can.

 

[dowser]

Say What ?

So because it "knows" me, it "knows" not to work for anyone else, so if it's stolen I'm safe ? (Or my phone and info?)

I can Dowse it to find you if your lost. It will be connected to your location..

 

[Limitool]

Kudos to your big post.. It's hard to answer all that easily.
First of all I was figuring dowsing out and posting about my results.
For some reason some can't understand, it's hard Dowsing in 3 ft of Snow.
The reason I don't answer some of your questions, is because if you had followed my content, which you did, the answers have been posted.
I can go back and bring it all forward, but I'd rather continue on ahead..
If you were paying attention, explain the basics of what Dowsing is that I wrote about.. Then I'll believe you to be sincere.
Yes I know I have to accept skepticism!
Cobwebs get cought up in my content. I wasn't gonna stop posting because you want results, before I have them.
No offense but my Cousin is the biggest skeptic, but I showed him, and proved Dowsing is real. He's still in denial, even when he could hide my one carrot diamond under one of 10 cups, and I could Dowse it every time. Over and over and over and over..
I don't have an urgency to convince a skeptic, sorry. It will happen when it happens..
I don't mind humor or most comments, it's the comments that want my ongoing content to stop that read wrong.
Discussion works better than argument for me..
There has been no discussion about the written topics, only complaining about not proving dowsing, and your not convinced..
Not my problem, I can take skepticism a bit longer. Keep it coming! I've been dealing with it for years..

Where in all your posts have you addressed what I asked that you claim are previously answered. Below is what I asked.

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

What unwanted fame or hate would come from "proving dowsing" as you claim...? I/we all thought that was exactly what you were trying to do all along (prove it). What are we missing if we're wrong? This does nothing it seems but feed into our skepticism you want to escape...? You come across as wanting it both ways. You want to be believed without presenting any proof because of fame or hate.

What fame are you referencing...? Just please address what you said above and my question.

 

[dowser]

Where in all your posts have you addressed what I asked that you claim are previously answered. Below is what I asked.

dowser: "I had thought about putting an end to the skepticism. Prove Dowsing! But with any unwanted fame would come the hate."....

What unwanted fame or hate would come from "proving dowsing" as you claim...? I/we all thought that was exactly what you were trying to do all along (prove it). What are we missing if we're wrong? This does nothing it seems but feed into our skepticism you want to escape...? You come across as wanting it both ways. You want to be believed without presenting any proof because of fame or hate.

What fame are you referencing...? Just please address what you said above and my question.

IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!
It is probably the most written controversial subject. And will be in worldwide media, that's obvious.. People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.. Google any Dowsing proof and there is many famous "smart people" writing that it's not possible!
I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world.
I was learning about resonating Frequencies, not just Gold and Silver.
After some of the comments I received while just trying to figure something out, I've had second thoughts, and don't like insult comments.
Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!
Let them get attacked by writing what they know and believe.
All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content.
I don't have the proof you need yet.
I can't get any of you to read the content posted.
One more time, please pay attention!
I started my Dowsing tests and observations in Aug last year. I was trying to figure out how to Dowse smalls, amongst other things.
Smalls are single coins and rings.
I posted that one gram dowses only one foot, so if a Silver coin of 24 grams is near, it has to be within 24 ft..
If you read and understand what I have posted, you will know that the Russell -McPherron affect is ongoing.
So not only do I have a small target to Dowse, I have weak signal from interference.
I never said I Dowsed Silver or Gold coins in the past. I never tried to Dowse rings either. They were too small.. I've been testing and practicing on smalls.. Hopefully I'll find something, if it's there.
There isn't any place close, so I'd have to travel.
I haven't had time to find anything. I was out today! But I didn't Dowse what you want to see..
So I won't show it..

 

[dowser]

This is the last 6 hrs of Dowsing interference graph.
With a metal detector, turn it on and go.
With dowsing, go and hope it turns on.
Its on but constantly changing from good to bad.. There is no horizontal line, showing unchanging signal.
If it was a steady signal, Dowsing wouldn't be controversial.
That's what I'm up against! Strong to week in the middle of the dowse.
That's the reason there isn't many Dowsers proving it. Its not constant, not predicted, and that real time Bz graph is 48 minutes off at times..
Big Targets are a lot Easier!! Smalls are tuff, they need more signal strength for me to Dowse.
Just saying, I'm trying.. hang in there...

 

[dowser]

I figure the best way to go about Dowsing the beach is to tie my signal to a string and drag it along. I'll keep the enhancer stone in my pocket, but I need to constantly shift my signal every 30 to 40 ft to re dowse for upcoming connection lines.
As for Diamonds, they signal further in crystal form than anything in Solid form.
Rings are gonna be my best bet.
Are rings at most any beaches? Could there be rings along Lake Michigan beaches in quantity?

 

[robertk]

As for Diamonds, they signal further in crystal form than anything in Solid form.

Huh? Diamonds are crystals and they are quite solid.

Are rings at most any beaches? Could there be rings along Lake Michigan beaches in quantity?

Yes, most beaches have lost jewelry, including rings. Quantity is unknown, but its existence is almost a certainty anyplace where people swim.

 

[Limitool]

IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!
It is probably the most written controversial subject. And will be in worldwide media, that's obvious.. People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.. Google any Dowsing proof and there is many famous "smart people" writing that it's not possible!
I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world.
I was learning about resonating Frequencies, not just Gold and Silver.
After some of the comments I received while just trying to figure something out, I've had second thoughts, and don't like insult comments.
Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!
Let them get attacked by writing what they know and believe.
All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content.
I don't have the proof you need yet.
I can't get any of you to read the content posted.
One more time, please pay attention!
I started my Dowsing tests and observations in Aug last year. I was trying to figure out how to Dowse smalls, amongst other things.
Smalls are single coins and rings.
I posted that one gram dowses only one foot, so if a Silver coin of 24 grams is near, it has to be within 24 ft..
If you read and understand what I have posted, you will know that the Russell -McPherron affect is ongoing.
So not only do I have a small target to Dowse, I have weak signal from interference.
I never said I Dowsed Silver or Gold coins in the past. I never tried to Dowse rings either. They were too small.. I've been testing and practicing on smalls.. Hopefully I'll find something, if it's there.
There isn't any place close, so I'd have to travel.
I haven't had time to find anything. I was out today! But I didn't Dowse what you want to see..
So I won't show it..

1. "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"
Why in the hell would you even care....? If it's real and proven what more do you want..?

2. "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."
You state all the time you want to show people how. Again, why care about any hate mail. And who would take an interest in "hate mail"...? Why would you even think people would be interested in it..?

3. "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."
Well if it's not important now because of people's comments then it wasn't to important to begin with.

4. "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"
That's quite the leap that somehow someone would be "famous" proving dowsing. Why do you believe fame would follow. Again, that's quite the leap of thought.

5. "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."
You got this all turned around dowser.... We don't need the proof YOU NEED IT...! And you want us to read the content posted and... TO WHAT END..! Who said we don't read it. Why would you say or think that..? We do read and respond. You can't control both sides of the street at once.

You dowser create and feed into the skepticism with your own posts and don't even realize it. Many of us hope the best for your dowsing interest but you bounce all over feeding skepticism. Quit worrying about "fame", skepticism, hate mail and all the negative shit. Remember YOU NEED PROOF not us. I personally wish ya the best sir.

 

[dowser]

I didn't read it, hope you don't mind..

 

[dowser]

Huh? Diamonds are crystals and they are quite solid.

Funny! I was gonna come back on and correct that with Solid metal.. You beat me too it!

 

[dowser]

All my Treasure hunting friends but one on radiation now, have passed away.. I am out of treasure hunting friends, so I post to skeptics, my friends .

 

[lukdiver2]

IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!
It is probably the most written controversial subject. And will be in worldwide media, that's obvious.. People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.. Google any Dowsing proof and there is many famous "smart people" writing that it's not possible!
I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world.
I was learning about resonating Frequencies, not just Gold and Silver.
After some of the comments I received while just trying to figure something out, I've had second thoughts, and don't like insult comments.
Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!
Let them get attacked by writing what they know and believe.
All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content.
I don't have the proof you need yet.
I can't get any of you to read the content posted.
One more time, please pay attention!
I started my Dowsing tests and observations in Aug last year. I was trying to figure out how to Dowse smalls, amongst other things.
Smalls are single coins and rings.
I posted that one gram dowses only one foot, so if a Silver coin of 24 grams is near, it has to be within 24 ft..
If you read and understand what I have posted, you will know that the Russell -McPherron affect is ongoing.
So not only do I have a small target to Dowse, I have weak signal from interference.
I never said I Dowsed Silver or Gold coins in the past. I never tried to Dowse rings either. They were too small.. I've been testing and practicing on smalls.. Hopefully I'll find something, if it's there.
There isn't any place close, so I'd have to travel.
I haven't had time to find anything. I was out today! But I didn't Dowse what you want to see..
So I won't show it..

Not de-railing the conversation but on the subject of 'physic' I'll add this. My twin brother and I have had several incidents where I knew he was in big trouble. One was having guns pulled on him in Panama and being arrested as a CIA spy. It ended 'well' as they figured out he was correct when he told them 'he was too stupid to be CIA'. That was after 6 days. Other note able incident was a terrible commercial diving accident he witnessed. These were all from 50 miles away to hundreds of miles. There's research on the net of this phenomanae. Because of this we don't have any problems believing anything about dowsing. Personally we're using LRL and primarily targeting gold on various wrecks (since 1980) on the West Coast. IF you think dousing and using rods is difficult it's a order of magnitude harder on the ocean. Good luck to anyone chasing gold and it doesn't matter 'how' you find gold, only IF you find gold. BTW no I won't post 'proof' as I'm not trying to impress anyone.

 

[Limitool]

I didn't read it, hope you don't mind..

dowser: "I can't get any of you to read the content posted." From post #248

See what I mean dowser.... YOU feed into the skepticism. You need the proof more than we do.

 

[dowser]

dowser: "I can't get any of you to read the content posted." From post #248

See what I mean dowser.... YOU feed into the skepticism. You need the proof more than we do.

That wasn't Dowsing content you posted. It was the same stuff you posted many times before.
I'm not following you because, I'm not sure what your trying to say.
This topic is One Dowsed observation. Not Tora!, Tora! Tora!

 

[dowser]

1. "IF Dowsing is brought out into the attention of the world, as real and proved. There will be people that won't believe, no matter what!!"
Why in the hell would you even care....? If it's real and proven what more do you want..?

2. "People will want to know how, hate mail would also come.."
You state all the time you want to show people how. Again, why care about any hate mail. And who would take an interest in "hate mail"...? Why would you even think people would be interested in it..?

3. "I had originally wanted to prove Dowsing, but not for me, it was for the health of the world."
Well if it's not important now because of people's comments then it wasn't to important to begin with.

4. "Im trying to find someone to teach, let them prove Dowsing.. Let them be famous!"
That's quite the leap that somehow someone would be "famous" proving dowsing. Why do you believe fame would follow. Again, that's quite the leap of thought.

5. "All I'm trying to do is post Dowsing content. I don't have the proof you need yet. I can't get any of you to read the content posted."
You got this all turned around dowser.... We don't need the proof YOU NEED IT...! And you want us to read the content posted and... TO WHAT END..! Who said we don't read it. Why would you say or think that..? We do read and respond. You can't control both sides of the street at once.

You dowser create and feed into the skepticism with your own posts and don't even realize it. Many of us hope the best for your dowsing interest but you bounce all over feeding skepticism. Quit worrying about "fame", skepticism, hate mail and all the negative shit. Remember YOU NEED PROOF not us. I personally wish ya the best sir.

1. First question you start by swearing a question at me, that's as far as I read!
I post Dowsing test results, scientific facts, ways to do it. I explain everything in great detail.
Dowsing is something, weather you believe or not.. It's easy for me to write about Dowsing, because it it real.
If someone really wants to believe and see they can contact me.
I feel I have to defend Dowsing on here.
That confuses me? What are you defending? I have Dowsing, you have nothing! You are arguing over nothing to defend!
So you must be defending something. Is it truth? Are you the defender of Dowsing truth.
If your gonna wear a mask and a cape and save the world from Dowsing, shouldn't you fly over to check my credibility?
I'm not afraid of skepticism, I live and bait for it.
You are a skeptic friend. I appreciate filling these boring moments in time with writing worthless stuff to you..

 

[signal_line]

1. First question you start by swearing a question at me, that's as far as I read!
I post Dowsing test results, scientific facts, ways to do it. I explain everything in great detail.
Dowsing is something, weather you believe or not.. It's easy for me to write about Dowsing, because it it real.
If someone really wants to believe and see they can contact me.
I feel I have to defend Dowsing on here.
That confuses me? What are you defending? I have Dowsing, you have nothing! You are arguing over nothing to defend!
So you must be defending something. Is it truth? Are you the defender of Dowsing truth.
If your gonna wear a mask and a cape and save the world from Dowsing, shouldn't you fly over to check my credibility?
I'm not afraid of skepticism, I live and bait for it.
You are a skeptic friend. I appreciate filling these boring moments in time with writing worthless stuff to you..

I guess it’s time for me to step in here and help clear the air. There are two types of “dowsing”. There is the physical and the mental or etheric plane and the astral plane. The physical is like walking out in the field with a dowsing rod or forked stick. When you get near or on line with the target you get a rod response. There is a 45 degree cone surrounding the target that can be sensed and determines the depth of the target. You stand over the target and walk out away from it. When the rod responds that distance is the depth of the target. Now with mental “dowsing” you stand over the target and start counting the feet of depth. So when the rod responds that is the approximate depth. Or you can tend of feet or hundreds of feet. You see there is no physical factor here, it’s all in your head. This type of “dowsing” is very prone to errors. The physical is more accurate. Another example of mental “dowsing” is map “dowsing”. Yes, this can work, but if everything is not right it’s a lot like using an Ouija board. Some people use a frequency generator set at a certain frequency to get a resonance with the target. This can more accurate that free wheeling it. But the frequency must be accurate, not just some number grabbed out of the air. There are many harmonics that can send you out on a tangent.

All that said, dowsing is not very accurate most of the time. Anybody that claims otherwise is living in self-deception.

Add to this it takes years of practice for most people to get much of any results. A very few people can pick it up faster but my opinion it’s people with lower intelligence—they don’t try to out-think it. Children learn easier but once they start to come of age can easily lose it.

I know we are not supposed to talk about it but the frequency generators are the way to go. So much better chance of success. And no, it’s not just psychological—electronic receiver can detect the same signal that the rods respond to.