Oak Island Factual (proven/documented) Information

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lokiblossom said:
"161" In a little while Eldo is going to post here and you guys will have more factual information than you bargained for!:thumbsup:

Cheers, Loki
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Why do you say that? He's never posted any factual info before?
 

3cylbill said:
you can argue this point till the cows come home . IT MEANS NOTHING ..people are going to do what they want and could care less what people think I will go try and find a barber dime and when i do i will have found more than all the OAK ISLAND and BEALE chasers ......ever will
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On a rainy Saturday a few years back, I found more gold in a crappy inner city playground than has been found on Oak Island over the last two centuries. Admittedly it wasn't much, but hey, a little is better than none at all, right?

I've stated in the past that I am not a treasure hunter, but I seem to be better at it than some of the professionals are. Perhaps I should reassess my status.
 

First I have not watched any of Oak Island Shows yet. Second, I have seen post on the Internet particularly on Facebook about a piece of eight being found on the Oak Island Show when Petter Admundsen was on the show. Did anyone see this show? Is not that a fact of treasure? I mean it is treasure. It is not a boat load but treasure has been found and if you read what was cut from the show you will find out that the landowner which had to be Fred Nolan was talked to off camera. And he said several coins had been found in that area of the swamp and one man went in to town and spent a considerable amount of the pieces of eight. He also, Fred Nolan mentioned a wooden door he had probed about three or feet deep, could this be an entrance to the mines? Treasure has been found on Oak Island, not much, but Mel Fisher when he found the "Mother Lode of the Atocha" started out with only a few coins.
 

Fisher knew the Atocha was real, and that it really existed. It was documented through very credible source materials. He wasn't chasing man made romance and lore. HUGE DIFFERENCE!
 

bigscoop said:
Fisher knew the Atocha was real, and that it really existed. It was documented through very credible source materials. He wasn't chasing man made romance and lore. HUGE DIFFERENCE!
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NO HUGE DIFFERENCE! If you read the book, "The Mother Lode of the Atocha" You would find out that Mel Fisher was finding coins where he believed the Atocha to be located near Alligator Key. It was not until Eugen Lyons from Seville, Spain at the Archives of Spain sent him a message and told him that the shipwreck of the Margarita and the Atocha was near the Marques Key over 100 miles away was Mel Fisher then able to get to where the shipwrecks were located. So I see NO HUGE DIFFERENCE, a few coins a hundred miles away or a few coins in a swampy cove at Nova Scotia. A search must be made then once the coins and the treasure is identified then the records or manifest can be located to identify the contents of what treasures they are actually looking for? Case closed.
 

etex said:
The case will never be closed
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etex, We are talking about two different cases. You are talking about the Case of treasure on Oak Island. I am talking about what bigscoop ranted about what is real treasure and what is not. Get your facts straight before jumping out shooting blanks.
 

franklin said:
First I have not watched any of Oak Island Shows yet. Second, I have seen post on the Internet particularly on Facebook about a piece of eight being found on the Oak Island Show when Petter Admundsen was on the show. Did anyone see this show? Is not that a fact of treasure?
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I don't thin I would call that treasure. The copper 8 miravedis that they found are pretty common in this area. A number of them were found on my parent's property in New Brunswick's St John River Valley. They were legal tender here for a while.
 

franklin said:
... I see NO HUGE DIFFERENCE, a few coins a hundred miles away or a few coins in a swampy cove at Nova Scotia. A search must be made then once the coins and the treasure is identified then the records or manifest can be located to identify the contents of what treasures they are actually looking for? ...
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This how legend and lore combine making it appear believable.
A case of making "mountains of treasure" out of a single found coin.
 

franklin said:
First I have not watched any of Oak Island Shows yet. Second, I have seen post on the Internet particularly on Facebook about a piece of eight being found on the Oak Island Show when Petter Admundsen was on the show. Did anyone see this show? Is not that a fact of treasure? I mean it is treasure. It is not a boat load but treasure has been found and if you read what was cut from the show you will find out that the landowner which had to be Fred Nolan was talked to off camera. And he said several coins had been found in that area of the swamp and one man went in to town and spent a considerable amount of the pieces of eight. He also, Fred Nolan mentioned a wooden door he had probed about three or feet deep, could this be an entrance to the mines? Treasure has been found on Oak Island, not much, but Mel Fisher when he found the "Mother Lode of the Atocha" started out with only a few coins.
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I suggest you watch the entire last season and current season of the curse of oak island. Then you will have a frame of reference to better understand the ongoing hoax.......
 

Singlestack Wonder said:
I suggest you watch the entire last season and current season of the curse of oak island. Then you will have a frame of reference to better understand the ongoing hoax.......
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And try not to fall asleep !
 

ECS said:
This how legend and lore combine making it appear believable.
A case of making "mountains of treasure" out of a single found coin.
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ECS you and bigscoop are like walking zombies can you not make any post without posting your same OLE RHETORIC? Almost 8,000 post and 99 percent the same old crap.
 

franklin said:
NO HUGE DIFFERENCE! If you read the book, "The Mother Lode of the Atocha" You would find out that Mel Fisher was finding coins where he believed the Atocha to be located near Alligator Key. It was not until Eugen Lyons from Seville, Spain at the Archives of Spain sent him a message and told him that the shipwreck of the Margarita and the Atocha was near the Marques Key over 100 miles away was Mel Fisher then able to get to where the shipwrecks were located. So I see NO HUGE DIFFERENCE, a few coins a hundred miles away or a few coins in a swampy cove at Nova Scotia. A search must be made then once the coins and the treasure is identified then the records or manifest can be located to identify the contents of what treasures they are actually looking for? Case closed.
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I actually met Mel Fisher. "There was credible record of the Atchoa's sinking, thus establishing it's actual existence." Mel had constant contact with research sources in the archives, same is true with the 1715 fleet. "They knew those things actually existed."

Old Spanish coins have been found here in Indiana, and an entire barrel of them were discovered on the Great Lakes, does that mean the Templers and the Spanish buried some completely unsupported monster treasure here as well?
 

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franklin said:
ECS you and bigscoop are like walking zombies can you not make any post without posting your same OLE RHETORIC? Almost 8,000 post and 99 percent the same old crap.
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Franklin, just post facts when they're actually facts. Quit posting all of this other unfounded romance and lore as if it is fact and folks like me and ECS will probably quit correcting you.

And I might add, since you saw fit to point it out, if ECS and I post 99% the same old crap in effort to correct you, then what's that say about 99% of your posted 8'000 "facts?" :thumbsup:
 

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franklin said:
ECS you and bigscoop are like walking zombies can you not make any post without posting your same OLE RHETORIC? Almost 8,000 post and 99 percent the same old crap.
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...and your point?
So far nothing has been posted that can dispute the " same OLE RHETORIC" of Bigscoop and me with actual hard supporting facts, and we have corrected with FACT, many of the misinformation that has been presented as fact on these various threads.
 

Raparee said:
I don't thin I would call that treasure. The copper 8 miravedis that they found are pretty common in this area. A number of them were found on my parent's property in New Brunswick's St John River Valley. They were legal tender here for a while.
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They're also pretty inexpensive on Ebay. For the record, I don't think that it was planted, but some here had their concerns. As you said, there would be no reason to plant something that common. I'm a bit surprised that they've only found one. (Actually I'm not. The amount of dirt that's been moved on that island over the centuries has probably buried a number of interesting finds.)
 

180 posts and still no documented evidence....not even one coconut fibers worth....
 

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