Niamo Speck Cypher, need botg in Scottsville, Texas (near LA border)

[GirlWithWolf]

I have been working on the Niamo Speck cypher for three years (yes, I’m a dork) and recently discovered the most specific explanation I’ve come across on where to find the document needed to crack the cypher, which leads to a treasure valued at $2500 (at the time it was hidden in 2020).

So I’m asking if anyone is interested in providing botg in Scottsville, Texas to see if they can spot the “document”. Scottsville is located in East Texas very close to Marshall. It is about 35 minutes west of Shreveport and 2 hours east of Dallas.

If you locate the document you can use it to decipher and find the treasure, or provide me pictures of the document and I’ll decipher it then tell you where the treasure is so you can go get it (and keep it). I don’t have any interest in the treasure itself, even if I find it I’m giving it to charity, I just want to know we found it.

Now you’re probably asking why someone hasn’t already gone an looked. Good question.

1) The person that believes they cracked the first part of the code lives too far away to go check for himself.

2) $2500 isn’t a lot of money to professional treasure hunters, the investment to travel there leaves virtually no financial incentive, especially since the treasure is more than likely far away from there.

3) It is a long shot, a very long shot. The cypher is difficult and the guy who believes he cracked it might be completely wrong.

Which leads to your next question, why haven’t I gone to have a look?

1) I don’t have a drivers license.

2) My treasure hunting partner (my father) isn’t convinced enough for us to make the 5 plus hour drive. However, it is probably better to listen to me since he is the muscle and I’m the brains of our operation.

Here is the location and what he believes he deciphered:

“An angel of grief memorial is on the gravesite of William Scott Youree in Scottsville Cemetery in Scottsville, Texas. Using the 6, 64, 9, 6 I get "come placed below come".”

The treasure is not there, only a document, sign, or something that can be used to decode the cypher, which will then lead to the treasure, which is somewhere in the USA in “the south”.

If you’re interested then go have a look, and if you have any questions or want more information on how he believes he deciphered the first part, reply here or send me a message. I’m will to share anything I can to get this treasure found.

Happy hunting,

Maggie

 

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[robertk]

I don't know if this helps you, but there are photos of the grave of William Scott Youree in Scottsville Cemetery on this site, including the angel of grief (which has text on it, but the photo isn't clear enough to read), and the nearby church that his family erected.

 

[GirlWithWolf]

I don't know if this helps you, but there are photos of the grave of William Scott Youree in Scottsville Cemetery on this site, including the angel of grief (which has text on it, but the photo isn't clear enough to read), and the nearby church that his family erected.

Thank you! That is very helpful and I appreciate you taking the time to look and share it.

 

[GirlWithWolf]

The largest number in the cypher is 65 so the source material will need to be at least 65 characters, words, or lines, and the author has said it can be found "online for free" so armchair hunters can figure out the source material.

With his hint and the information about this grave, I've wondered if the source material could be something like an old document that is an agreement between the cemetery and family to be buried there (like a contract) or maybe the charter of the church, or mission statement, whatever churches call them.

It will be better to have someone look in person but the pictures RobertK provided I've already put to use. Counting the characters on each line I come up with 109 letters and 4 numbers total, but if you use every other line (odd number lines) the characters add up to 64 (we need 65). So is that a coincidence or am I maybe missing a character on an odd numbered line?

Here is what I count by line-
12, 3, 19, 18, 14, 18, 9, 6, 10 (plus the 4 numbers)

 

[dowser]

If he reversed the numbers, the largest number would be 73, so source material could be that. I don't get any numbers myself. I see the little drawings. Zooming in, I still can't recognize. Others suggest stuff about them.. Did he expect us to have great eyesight? Or figured we would be zooming in? I don't see any kind of fit pattern myself. Only he likes the 30's, with 17 digits, then 20's with 16 digits, it goes way down from those.. With 5 digits in the 60's, and only 2 in the 50's, very confusing.. Representing letters on a document, seems like a tough find..
I hope you or someone figures it out. I'll keep looking at it..

 

[dowser]

The creator said like beale. I'm not familiar with beale cypher. But did beale use lyrics or music, or little drawings in his cypher? So those are irrelivent.

 

[dowser]

The creator said like beale. I'm not familiar with beale cypher. But did beale use lyrics or music, or little drawings in his cypher? So those are irrelivent.

The second line has all the 50's and 60's?

 

[GirlWithWolf]

Beale is basically where a number corresponds to a letter or word, in the case of the original Beale cypher one of the three documents was the Declaration of Independence (other two are still unknown). The author has said the music is just music and not part of the clue.

I thought the symbols might be red herrings but the author has stated twice (that I’ve seen) it is like a Beale. I might be reading too much into it, but a Beale is a Beale and he wouldn’t use the term “like”. Beale is the standard so you wouldn’t say it is like it, just that it IS one. If the symbols mean nothing he should say “It is a Beale”. (Someone correct me if I’m wrong, please.)

 

[Ryano]

Here’s an webpage with very good photos and history
(If you get a message about “website not secure”, click Proceed to site)

http://www.texasescapes.com/Cemeteries/Weeping-Angel-Grief-WSYouree-Scottsville-Cemetery.htm

 

[sprailroad]

GirlWithWolf,...I think you would be the brains of ANY operation. I am impressed.

 

[GirlWithWolf]

Here’s an webpage with very good photos and history
(If you get a message about “website not secure”, click Proceed to site)

http://www.texasescapes.com/Cemeteries/Weeping-Angel-Grief-WSYouree-Scottsville-Cemetery.htm

Thank you! I’ll check those out later tonight. Very appreciative, thank you again.

GirlWithWolf,...I think you would be the brains of ANY operation. I am impressed.

Hahaha I don’t know about that, but thank you. If I’m not successful with my artwork maybe I can be a criminal mastermind. 😆

 

[dowser]

I can't figure out how the number 67 is an apple. I think both, cypher and code are difficult to me..