New Treasure Hunting TV show

[Roger Rantz]

how about showing us the email that says you won?

Obviously they facetimed me to tell me something that important?

 

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[GoDeep]

Lets break this down. They facetimed you. Presumably, you pitched your story and they said they were interested. That's it. No contract yet, no in person auditions, no location scout. Let us know when you've met with them, vetted you and the site, gave the greenlight, set a filming timeframe, obtained the permits and then, hopefully put you to some contract. Until then, this is just the earliest of phases of feeling out leads on some material for their 8-12 shows. (one of which, if you're lucky, will be on the Lost Dutchman's mine).

As a side note, why do you keep calling it a contest that you "won". If you won, so did 7-11 others as they plan on doing more shows then just the Dutchman mine.

His language is clear in the beginning:

Hi

I think this could be a good opportunity for someone here,

We are in the process of finding 8 to 12 stories for 60-minute episodes. It is a reality show, so I am looking for people who are actively searching for a treasure, or people who have done research and have found evidence that can lead to finding a treasure. If you think your story would make a great episode, send me a PM

And of course, this opportunity is only for those who can and want to share their story.

 

[freeman]

Lol, well I got that far. I did a pitch and they liked the story, had a title* suggested for it also.

Chagy just is the screener/cut out.

But as I mentioned before I withdrew as I could see it wasn't going to work as the format is for a researcher's stand alone story to be examined per episode for the series.

You can image the problem trying to explain all the historical research and why you should look at 'this spot' in 47 minutes of content time.

No mention or information allowed either that would debunk an already popular History Channel show which was problematic as I had received research information directly from those on 'the show' that ended up debunking their work as they researched it.

I was going to ask if anyone else was successful and had continued on all the way through because it seemed to me the limitations of the format would make it hard for any major story/legend that required in depth research to be told. It only seemed to be conducive to just minor stories like 'old Miser Smith's house burned down and there was rumours he had gold so lets metal detect it where his house stood' etc.

*The episode title, not the series title.

 

[Roger Rantz]

Lol, well I got that far. I did a pitch and they liked the story, had a title lined up for it also.

But as I mentioned then I withdrew as I could see it wasn't going to work as the format is for a researcher's stand alone story to be examined per episode for the series.

You can image the problem trying to explain all the historical research and why you should look at 'this spot' in 47 minutes of content time.

No mention or information either that would debunk an already popular History Channel show which was problematic as I had received research information directly from those on 'the show' that ended up debunking themselves as they researched it.

What was the title they gave you?

 

[Roger Rantz]

Lets break this down. They facetimed you. Presumably, you pitched your story and they said they were interested. That's it. No contract yet, no in person auditions, no location scout. Let us know when you've met with them, vetted you and the site, gave the greenlight, set a filming timeframe, obtained the permits and then, hopefully put you to some contract. Until then, this is just the earliest of phases of feeling out leads on some material for their 8-12 shows. (one of which, if you're lucky, will be on the Lost Dutchman's mine).

As a side note, why do you keep calling it a contest that you "won". If you won, so did 7-11 others as they plan on doing more shows then just the Dutchman mine.

His language is clear in the beginning:

When I talked to them, they said i was down to three. Then as we got talking more they said one guy dropped out because it was too hot in the summer. So it was me and one other. Then they told me i won... And doesnt the thread state it was a contest?

 

[Roger Rantz]

Or maybe I just got confused the way the interview went

 

[azdave35]

When I talked to them, they said i was down to three. Then as we got talking more they said one guy dropped out because it was too hot in the summer. So it was me and one other. Then they told me i won... And doesnt the thread state it was a contest?

and the prize is a ruined life

 

[Roger Rantz]

When I was interviewed they were down to three to choose, Before they told me they were choosing me. Now they still got to obtain a film permit, and give me a contract offer...

 

[freeman]

Lol, it doesn't matter what the title* was as it's not being done. Even though they suggested they could write around not being able to mention 'that show' I could see it wasn't going to work.

Rather than wasting their time and my time any further on something that just wasn't going to fit I withdrew and those were the reasons given for my withdrawal.

I asked for it to be passed on to them to keep my pitch on file because one day, when 'that show' ends or drops in popularity, as happens to all shows so it can be talked about without hurting the ratings, this can be done then.

*The episode title, not the show title.

 

[Roger Rantz]

Lol, well I got that far. I did a pitch and they liked the story, had a title suggested for it also.

Chagy just is the screener/cut out.

But as I mentioned before I withdrew as I could see it wasn't going to work as the format is for a researcher's stand alone story to be examined per episode for the series.

You can image the problem trying to explain all the historical research and why you should look at 'this spot' in 47 minutes of content time.

No mention or information allowed either that would debunk an already popular History Channel show which was problematic as I had received research information directly from those on 'the show' that ended up debunking their work as they researched it.

I was going to ask if anyone else was successful and had continued on all the way through because it seemed to me the limitations of the format would make it hard for any major story/legend that required in depth research to be told. It only seemed to be conducive to just minor stories like 'old Miser Smith's house burned down and there was rumours he had gold so lets metal detect it where his house stood' etc.
'

Then what was your title, and who did you talk to? Prove it

 

[freeman]

I just did, I told you what happened.

What a silly question, I could make up any title* and say it, how would you know if that was the suggested one or not?


*Yet again, it was the suggested title for the episode, not the series title. So as you have no way of ever knowing what they suggested for the title of that episode unless I say it....

 

[Roger Rantz]

I just did, I told you what happened.

What a silly question, I could make up any title and say it, how would you know if that was the suggested one or not?

Because I know what series its running on. But who did you talk to? You cant say the title or name, but turned them down? You got nothing to lose by stating the production team members name

 

[freeman]

As I clarified, it was the suggested title for the episode, which was different to my pitch title. As I also said, I withdrew so that story, with that title, is not being developed further.

And no, it wasn't a 'contest', it was a real scouting looking for stories that could be developed into episodes for a series.

I only added details in this thread for the benefit of others so they could see it was a a real posting.

I'm not sure what part you aren't comprehending or are getting bent about as I was just relating my experience and why I chose not to go further.

There is only so much you can say about something that is not occurring, won't be made and won't be seen as part of the show?

But hey, good luck on getting your version of the LDM story out. Make sure you talk quick as they gotta get the place visited and scanned for a treasure in the 47 minutes airtime* each episode has before they have to bug out to the next episode's story's location.

*That's 47 minutes minus the series opening and end credits, the episode intro segment to develop the entire 'why' of that episode's story and the windup segment along with the commercial break lead ups and lead ins.

 

[nobodie]

Roger,
To me the contest sounds like a con job. When they ask for money for anything, do not walk but run to the nearest exit.

 

[deducer]

So the federal law that protects a persons pitch to a production team is no good? Elaborate for me if you would... Why do you feel the way you do about IT?

If only you knew how many lawsuits are pending out there. Laws are broken all the time because:

Either your contract was made with an indie company in which case, your contract wasn't made with a person or anything that could be considered asset, it was made with a LLC (as in Limited Liability Corporation) production company that can easily be dissolved if it loses a lawsuit. So even if you win a judgement, you still have to receive a settlement but you can't go after a particular person or try to seize assets that no longer belongs to said LLC.

Or your contract was made with a studio that will outspend and outlast you in court by a big margin and they know it. They will drag it out for years until either you give up or they drain you.

 

[deducer]

As I clarified, it was the suggested title for the episode, which was different to my pitch title. As I also said, I withdrew so that story, with that title, is not being developed further.

And no, it wasn't a 'contest', it was a real scouting looking for stories that could be developed into episodes for a series.

I only added details in this thread for the benefit of others so they could see it was a a real posting.

I'm not sure what part you aren't comprehending or are getting bent about as I was just relating my experience and why I chose not to go further.

There is only so much you can say about something that is not occurring, won't be made and won't be seen as part of the show?

But hey, good luck on getting your version of the LDM story out. Make sure you talk quick as they gotta get the place visited and scanned for a treasure in the 47 minutes airtime* each episode has before they have to bug out to the next episode's story's location.

*That's 47 minutes minus the series opening and end credits, the episode intro segment to develop the entire 'why' of that episode's story and the windup segment along with the commercial break lead ups and lead ins.

You scout for locations, not for stories.

Here's the problem I have with your claims of "scouting" for a production company. They would do it in-house, or hire a credentialed location scout or company or whatever you mean by that term. It's almost unheard of for an established company to allow freelance scouting to be done for them and especially without guidelines or conditions, location or whatever else you mean by that term. Of course I could be wrong, but-

 

[deducer]

deducer knows the game very well...if you knew his background you would listen when he speaks about production companies

Thanks for the prop, but I am no industry insider.. (my cousins are, though). I've just heard one too many horror stories.

 

[freeman]

They sent or utilised a scout to look for stories and sources. He turned up here. I answered him. I'm not sure how much simpler it can be put.

The full term is 'talent scout'. They look for the talent, not the locations.

I'm understanding now though why some here probably get nowhere with these after seeing the confusion and misunderstanding the relatively simple original posting and process to find content for a planned series caused for them.

 

[Roger Rantz]

As I clarified, it was the suggested title for the episode, which was different to my pitch title. As I also said, I withdrew so that story, with that title, is not being developed further.

And no, it wasn't a 'contest', it was a real scouting looking for stories that could be developed into episodes for a series.

I only added details in this thread for the benefit of others so they could see it was a a real posting.

I'm not sure what part you aren't comprehending or are getting bent about as I was just relating my experience and why I chose not to go further.

There is only so much you can say about something that is not occurring, won't be made and won't be seen as part of the show?

But hey, good luck on getting your version of the LDM story out. Make sure you talk quick as they gotta get the place visited and scanned for a treasure in the 47 minutes airtime* each episode has before they have to bug out to the next episode's story's location.

*That's 47 minutes minus the series opening and end credits, the episode intro segment to develop the entire 'why' of that episode's story and the windup segment along with the commercial break lead ups and lead ins.

Well what was your suggested title? If you cant answer that, then you didnt get a suggested title.

 

[GoDeep]

If you cant answer that, then you didnt get a suggested title.

No, just no. By that logic, since you haven't answered a bucket full of questions yourself, you aren't being truthful either.

Stop already, you're embarrassing yourself again.