Need help with aging this beautiful peice

[Holly_squirrel]

I wanted to find something decorative.... Finally I did.... In a big way. This won't thrill men like a civil war buckle would ... Lol ... But I'm in love with it. Backstory... My grandparents passed and I was detecting at their old property. Part of this was sticking out of the creek bed... There was like a landslide of tbe bank ... And there this was. My mom said as a kid she remembers them digging at tbe spike of this thing.



Then it was covered up... I guess it's been working its way out in recent years. There is a property in view of this thing, that was built in late 1800s and another even older than that. This didnt wash down from them, because it wouldn't had to go upstream... But maybe it was dumped. I've spent hours on it already .. It was like a huge barnacle... But the iron is so incredibly durable and non brittle... So given all that info can anyone give me an educated guess at the age?



I made Buddy sit in for size reference... Lol.. Not happy about being told to sit and stay

 

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[bigfoot1]

part of a bed?small garden fence?I dunno but I dig it.very cool

 

[BosnMate]

Part of a fence from around a Victorian grave?

 

[BryanM362]

Part of a fence from around a Victorian grave?

That soundsa about right to me. Looks Victorian. Could be anywhere from 1870's - 1920's, I'd guess.

 

[Breezie]

Yes, definitely a Victorian cast iron fence section. Really neat find! Breezie

 

[Holly_squirrel]

Part of a fence from around a Victorian grave?

Oh . Oh , no... Lol. Say it aint so. That's creepy. I hate to say it, but there was tons of out of place smooth flat marble stone with it. They been there ever since I was a kid... Big rectangular bar shaped peices of marble. Like the size of a fence post But like 2 feet short... I was gonna hang this thing on my wall... If it's from a grave :-| yikes

 

[CoilyGirl]

I'm glad you posted this,when you told me about it I couldn't wait to see it,great job! That really would be a neat little border piece for a flower bed.

 

[nhbenz]

Ha, I guess I'm over-tired... When I saw the first picture I thought it was a full sized fence (4 ft tall or so), then I saw the picture with the dog and thought - Man is that a big dog!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Nhbenz, that IS a BIG dog. Look at Holly's avatar photo. The dog's head is a bit larger than her head.

Holly, please tell us the length of the post at the fence's end, and also the fence's length.

For your comfort... I've been to a lot of "historic" graveyards, and I've never seen such a short fence as that one around a grave. Even a kid could easily step over it. I think it's more likely one which topped a stone wall, to make people think twice about tryinh to climb over the wall.

 

[Holly_squirrel]

Nhbenz, that IS a BIG dog. Look at Holly's avatar photo. The dog's head is a bit larger than her head.

Holly, please tell us the length of the post at the fence's end, and also the fence's length.

For your comfort... I've been to a lot of "historic" graveyards, and I've never seen such a short fence as that one around a grave. Even a kid could easily step over it. I think it's more likely one which topped a stone wall, to make people think twice about tryinh to climb over the wall.

I will in the morning . It's outside right now. I'd love some answers on this.. Just out of curiosity . Funny thing.... My little one said to me today when I was cleaning it.... Before I heard about the graveyard idea... " Mommy, it's haunted" .... Lol... Great.. I do fear the grave thing may not be far off... I knew it reminded me of something ..... And I couldn't place it... After that was suggested I remembered.



I'm just gonna call it a garden fence .... Even if I end up finding a tombstone when I go back to detect for more of it... Lol

 

[Holly_squirrel]

I just remembered ... Right where I found it.. We use to call it the crypt... Lol. There was run off from the creek downhill ... Then this weird stone cut out in the bank that was Lined with stone and had a dirt roof to it.. That's where tbis stuck out at... It washed out after all these years. Half standing with no roof now. But nobody would bury somebody along a creek bank I would hope... Lol

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

You are right... nobody would put a grave by a creek, because they'd know what creek-flooding erosion can cause.

Interesting photo. Well, at least I was correct that the fence was mounted on stone. ;-)

I would have no hesitation about the piece of fence you found, even if it had turned out to be cemetery-related. (As I mentioned in my previous reply, I'm sure that wasn't the only purpose for that type of fence.) As you see in the photo, the fence is actually several feet away from being "atop" the grave. It is part of a fairly large-width border around the grave.

Saying the following with a smile:
By the way... please be careful about using the phrase "aging" when talking in the relic-digging-&-collecting community. Among us folks, the phrase "need help with aging this piece" means needing help about how to apply artificial aging to a modernday Reproduction in order to make it appear to be a century-old Original piece. From being an Authenticator/Appraiser of dug relics for nearly 40 years, that was my automatic interpretation of "aging this piece" when I read the title of your post. So I skipped over it repeatedly for several hours, and I only opened it when I saw several people were replying to it. Please use the phrase "need help time-dating this piece" instead.

 

[Holly_squirrel]

You are right... nobody would put a grave by a creek, because they'd know what creek-flooding erosion can cause.

Interesting photo. Well, at least I was correct that the fence was mounted on stone. ;-)

I would have no hesitation about the piece of fence you found, even if it had turned out to be cemetery-related. (As I mentioned in my previous reply, I'm sure that wasn't the only purpose for that type of fence.) As you see in the photo, the fence is actually several feet away from being "atop" the grave. It is part of a fairly large-width border around the grave.

Saying the following with a smile:
By the way... please be careful about using the phrase "aging" when talking in the relic-digging-&-collecting community. Among us folks, the phrase "need help with aging this piece" means needing help about how to apply artificial aging to a modernday Reproduction in order to make it appear to be a century-old Original piece. From being an Authenticator/Appraiser of dug relics for nearly 40 years, that was my automatic interpretation of "aging this piece" when I read the title of your post. So I skipped over it repeatedly for several hours, and I only opened it when I saw several people were replying to it. Please use the phrase "need help time-dating this piece" instead.

Lol, whoops . I'll keep that in mind. I'll keep the " aged" reference strictly to discussions of cheese. Just to be safe I may call it " elderly " cheese. check in tomorrow for those measurements .... For some reason it would seem to me that iron work design would be something I could peg down to a certain time period. Like most things I find .... It really dont matter the age , it's not worth much to anyone.. Besides me... But I like to know how long it's been On this earth

 

[DoranHashemi]

You are right... nobody would put a grave by a creek, because they'd know what creek-flooding erosion can cause.

Interesting photo. Well, at least I was correct that the fence was mounted on stone. ;-)

I would have no hesitation about the piece of fence you found, even if it had turned out to be cemetery-related. (As I mentioned in my previous reply, I'm sure that wasn't the only purpose for that type of fence.) As you see in the photo, the fence is actually several feet away from being "atop" the grave. It is part of a fairly large-width border around the grave.

Saying the following with a smile:
By the way... please be careful about using the phrase "aging" when talking in the relic-digging-&-collecting community. Among us folks, the phrase "need help with aging this piece" means needing help about how to apply artificial aging to a modernday Reproduction in order to make it appear to be a century-old Original piece. From being an Authenticator/Appraiser of dug relics for nearly 40 years, that was my automatic interpretation of "aging this piece" when I read the title of your post. So I skipped over it repeatedly for several hours, and I only opened it when I saw several people were replying to it. Please use the phrase "need help time-dating this piece" instead.

Everybody is curious about age Try to relax cannonballguy and do what you do best. Answering questions we can't!

 

[buttedigger]

Awesome find Holly I can see how it could be a little creepy from a grave but I like creepy lol, happy huntin'

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

And what good gothic creepy house would be proper without a widow at the widow's walk?



Though I like the low grave-fence suggestion better for your find.

 

[Holly_squirrel]

And what good gothic creepy house would be proper without a widow at the widow's walk?

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Though I like the low grave-fence suggestion better for your find.

Ooohhh I do like the widow's walk idea!

 

[Holly_squirrel]

I'll post the end peices .... They might be my best clue . They look like they fit another piece

 

[CoilyGirl]

Holly the bottom pieces on this gate look round to me.If the gate was meant to attach to marble or even go into the ground it seems like the bottom pieces would be squared off and hollow even? I may not know what I'm talking about though,would love some more insights from the experts.whatever it is, it's pretty and you've got me wondering. I'll stay tuned!

 

[Holly_squirrel]

My thinking to Coily.. TheCannonBall guy's thought seems like a reasonable theory . Drives me nuts cause I know somebody somewhere knows... Somebody familiar with Victorian architecture . Any suggestions for where to find said person? Lol