need help verifying letter opener with hernan cortes name and date 1534

look ed

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I think I am loosing my mind with this thread :icon_scratch:

There are a couple of these same threads floating around and they keep changing, the poster has been given
all the info he needs but everyday the post is changed.

I am glad I "snapshot" the original page cause at my age I have to be sure my mind is still right.

I am happy to report it is, it's this post that is playing mind games.

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Whats that little dagger made out of --silver!!!!!Not very rusty :laughing7: Handle?
 

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look ed said:
Please help i dont know where to take item in Ca to verify this info was found in remote cyn in central Ca that has been documented to have been explored by francis drake. Please save laughs till after an expert looks at this. It is fully engraved. this is no a scam.

Might try contacting the Bancroft Library, University of California.

They purchased and are still displaying the Drake Brass Plate, which has been certified as a modern forgery.

It's history and creation has been brought to light, and possibly other items, as well, may have also have been seeded by the same four gentlemen.

Looking forward to your reply and future posts :thumbsup:
 

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Stefan: Say it ain't so! I was taught about the Drake Plate in 4th grade California history and even at 9 or 10, pondered how important it was and how I would like to find something like that. Hence the metal detector thing 50 years later. Now, it is officially bunk????? Breaks my heart.

Y'all are right, every time I read the intro of the thread, it is different. Sorta like playing games with my brother's kids--the rules change at any given moment.

Dano: Don't go home yet, but if you do, please leave the ball. This could get good.....again.
 

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High Plains Digger said:
Stefan: Say it ain't so! I was taught about the Drake Plate in 4th grade California history and even at 9 or 10, pondered how important it was and how I would like to find something like that.

Sorry to burst your bubble...

The plate was recently submitted by the Bancroft Library, University of California for scientific testing and was found to be a modern brass foundry formula composition, that was rolled not hammered, and cut using a shear press. The patina was man-applied, and the language was contemporary english and not the english of yore.

It was also determined that it can be attributed to 4 specific people, and was originally planted as a jest.

Lets go a step further. Drake was attested to as being a master seaman, and yet recent studies of his location along the California coast is also bunk.

In the end, Drake was nothing more than a pirate with a price on his head.

Because of a fake brass plate, historians made a criminal into a world class hero.

History is being rewritten as we speak.

PS. Anytime a new find is attributed to Drake, it will be intensly studied, and most likely, will be held in doubt until proven its worth.
 

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Let me go check my box, I am sure I have some Drake memorbilia in it. Just didn't know what it was. How about the hind quarters of the Golden Hine? Oops, there I go again.
 

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OK lets get back on subject & ID the what is it, my thoughts are a modern piece of junk :icon_thumright:
 

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look ed said:
Please help i dont know where to take item in Ca to verify this info was found in remote cyn in central Ca that has been documented to have been explored by francis drake. Please save laughs till after an expert looks at this. It is fully engraved. this is no a scam.

IS THIS A SCAM.....?

THE NAME AND DATE WAS CHANGED IN THE TITLE
 

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Dano Sverige said:
ANY museum in CA will give you information on it. If you're serious about what you have then take it to one. Nobody here is qualified enough to say.
If your area is anything like mine ,you can give it a loooong kiss goodbye on your way there...
 

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*Sigh*....Look people. This person is what we call in England..."Taking the proverbial pi$$"!
He has no interest in offering up anymore info or pic's. He has no interest in answering any posts or questions asked, and he won't show any pic's of any engraving.
This was a "defunct" thread from the 2nd post! Stop wasting your time folks!
 

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I know that. But rather than point out the obvious, I figured I'd give the OP the benefit of the doubt. There is a 99% chance that this is a completely bogus claim. But I was trying to give the guy a chance.
 

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