Need help to identify owners of british WWII flatware.

[Matteo La Boccia]

Queste posate provengono dal campo di battaglia di Salerno. Sicuramente i proprietari erano soldati inglesi sbarcati a Salerno nel settembre del 1943. Forse morirono a Salerno o semplicemente persero le posate. Qualsiasi aiuto per identificare i proprietari sarà, come sempre, molto apprezzato.
I marchi sono:
- M. L.
-B. B. o P. B.
- 4 o 44
- DR
- numero di serie 4189073
- numero di serie 2693327

 

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[Mackaydon]

Matteo,
Always good to see your recoveries.
Don....
"This cutlery comes from the Salerno battlefield. The owners were certainly English soldiers who landed in Salerno in September 1943. Perhaps they died in Salerno or simply lost the cutlery. Any help in identifying the owners will, as always, be greatly appreciated."

 

[invent4hir]

Hi Matteo, lets see if we can find the owners or their next-of-kin.

pepperj please look up the serial #s at the bottom and post the names & units the soldiers were with.

The brands are:
- M. L.
-B. B. or P. B.
- 4 or 44
-DR
- Serial number 4189073
- Serial number 2693327

 

[Mackaydon]

British soldiers were issued Army Numbers (versus Service Numbers). The soldier who received #2693327 was a member of the Scots Guards. A little research shows the 2nd Battalion of the Scot's Guards took part in the landings at Salerno on 9 September 1943.
The soldier who received Army Number 4189073 was part of the Royal Welch Fusilers though I have yet to find when they were at Salerno.
Source: https://www.researchingww2.co.uk/army-numbers-british-army-ww2/
Don in SoCal

 

[Matteo La Boccia]

Ai soldati britannici venivano assegnati i numeri dell'esercito (rispetto ai numeri di servizio). Il soldato che ha ricevuto il codice #2693327 era un membro delle guardie scozzesi. Una piccola ricerca mostra che il 2° Battaglione delle Guardie Scozzesi prese parte allo sbarco a Salerno il 9 settembre 1943.
Il soldato che ricevette il numero dell'esercito 4189073 faceva parte dei Royal Welch Fusiler, anche se non ho ancora trovato quando fossero a Salerno.
Fonte: https://www.researchingww2.co.uk/army-numbers-british-army-ww2/
Don a SoCal

Caro Mackaydon,
grazie mille per le tue preziose informazioni!!
Conosci i nomi dei soldati britannici con il numero di servizio 2693327 e 4189073?
Forse furono sepolti qui, nel cimitero del Commonwealth di Salerno.
Ancora molte grazie!!

 

[Matteo La Boccia]

Ciao Matteo, vediamo se riusciamo a ritrovare i proprietari o i loro parenti prossimi.

pepperj, per favore, cerca i numeri di serie in basso e pubblica i nomi e le unità con cui erano i soldati.

I marchi sono:
-ML
-BB o PB
- 4 o 44
-DR
- Numero di serie 4189073
- Numero di serie 2693327

Caro inventt4hir, grazie mille per le tue sempre preziose informazioni!

 

[Mackaydon]

The Royal Welch Fusilieres (RWF) did take part in the invasion of Italy. They entered at Toranto, not Salerno. The possibility exists (due to my limited research) that elements of the RWF did make it to Salerno: I just don't know.

With a name, it's relatively easy to find an Army Number (service number). It's more difficult to find the soldier's name with only his Army Number. No doubt there are experts here on TNet that can locate a source that will ID a British soldier from only his Army Number. I hope they step up. Meanwhile, I'll continue the search.
Don......

 

[invent4hir]

From the Scots Guards Association website...I'll see if a similar website is available for the Royal Welch Fusilers.

Archive enquiries about individuals​

If you wish to find out about a member of the Scots Guards who joined up to 1938 – please consult digitised records from the Scots Guards Archives and other relevant records from the National Archives via Findmypast.
If you are unable to research online for records up to 1938 or wish to ask about individual officers and soldiers of the Scots Guards who joined from 1939 onwards please email [email protected] . A £30 fee may be applicable to certain research requests. We receive a high quantity of requests so please allow up to 60 days for a reply.

Just emailed them a request for information. Will post their reply if/when I receive one.

 

[Matteo La Boccia]

Many thanks!!!