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ACE - LISTEN UP!

I'm in my mid-50's now, and been happily married to my Queen for the past
11 years. BEFORE her, I was married three (3) other times...and every one
of those relationships started out wonderful, but ended in a complete
"Crash-n-Burn".

Why? Because they became just like your Mrs. is doing now. It was ALL
about them, and what they wanted in life, and in their minds it was MY job
to see that they got it.

When I read your post (from the 24th) I heard all the alarms going off
in my head, telling me (based on personal experience) that serious trouble
is looking ahead for your marriage UNLESS you head this stuff off now.

Marriage is a series of compromises Ace, and in order for a marriage to
be successful, the most important thing in HER life should be YOUR happiness,
and for you, her happiness should be on the top of your list.

This way, you are both looking out for each others interests and desires, and
harmony is the result.

What you are living in is not any type of harmony, rather it's a style
of narcissism that many women seem to be cursed with. They feel that you are
there to deliver her dreams on a silver platter, and anything you do that detracts
from what her dreams are becomes anathema (forbidden).

So, you sacrifice yourself and your desires (an honorable thing, indeed) but in
the end she gets what she desires (education, money, status..etc.) and she'll
completely forget the sacrifices you made to get her there.

I can tell you are young still, and you're doing your very best to accomplish all
these things that others say you should do....and in the process Ace gets left by
the wayside to sweep up the messes in order to make her look good.

LIFE is about LIVING, not meeting some financial status. Money is a great thing to
have, but at what cost?

MODERATION (as mentioned above) is the key. Give some of that housecleaning and
other work back to her, and tell her that if she wants a cleaner house, then she can
clean it to her satisfaction. She wants to study? OK, take the kids and go detecting
at a park somewhere, then pick up a pizza and ice cream on the way home for supper.

She can have her cake and eat it too, and so can you. It's all a matter of MUTUAL
respect. If she's holding your DNA Nuggets in her hand and demanding her way,
that is known as "emotional blackmail".

IF she ever says the words: "If you love me you'll do this for me", then in my experience
it's time to start packing and looking for a new place to live. Once that starts, it won't
stop unless (and until) you politely explain to her that you have the right to live your life
and enjoy your interests, and it's NOT UP TO HER to decide when and where you do so.

YOU have a right to live your life as you choose to, and she has the very same right.
Together, you have responsibilities for the children you've brought to the world,
but that does not ever mean that either of you gave up the right to not be emotionally
blackmailed or abused into forgetting your life and the things you enjoy.

If I were in your shoes (and have been) I would take a moment where you and she can
talk (calmly..arguing never helps anything) and you need to explain to her that you don't
like the changes you're being forced to go through as a result of her "planning". She
doesn't own you, and you don't own her, and the ONLY way a marriage can work is if
you have that mutual respect for each other.

Take a long, hard look at the path you are on....what situation will you be living in
5 years from now? Do you think she's suddenly going to stop planning your life for you,
or forcing you to do her will by making all of the things that are important to you seem small
compared to her needs?

Of course, none of us are actually there with you to see it all in person. Still, based on what
you've shared it sure seems obvious to a few that there's more than a metal detecting
trip at stake here, as she will continue to minimize your needs while expanding hers, and the
end results not going to be good.

I wish you well in your marriage, and hope it call all be corrected before disaster strikes
in a few years.

What's "disaster"? Disaster is when you've finally had enough of her crap that all you
want is out of the relationship, and then everyone pays the price.

I've been down the road you're on, more than once, and odds are high that you'll
find the same thing at the end of that road as I did. Fix the issue now before that
happens, and life will be much, much better for you, your kids and your wife too.

Mis Dos Centavos...
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To each his own. I am single but have realized my hobbies are part of who I am.Accept me or don't and never ask me to choose. It is not an option. But I admit I sure miss my last Gf that enjoyed the hunts with me on occasion. You only live once so grab it while you can. Good luck.
 

Ace: Would like to add one more thing to my last post.

I made a few presumptions (above) in how I responded to your situation, and
if I'm way off-base, I apologize. Truth is, when this kind of thing arises in the life
of a young married fellow such as yourself, some of us that have "been there, done that"
share a bit of our experience in hopes that you don't ever have to suffer the same fate.

There's not a damn thing wrong with sacrificing your detecting for your families sake,
providing that is it is your desire to do so. Completely leaving a great hobby just because
it takes you away for a few hours once in a while seems ridiculous, and for her to demand
that you quit is even more concerning. You need "personal time" just like every other
husband and wife out there, and IMO it's part of a healthy relationship.

It is your life, and if this is the path you've chosen yourself, then so be it. But, if it's because
your Mrs. has told you you're not keeping up with the housework, well, that's a different
matter entirely. You research because you crave the knowledge, not to mention you put the
research into action when you work to find the goodies that you invested the research time into.
You are bettering yourself in the process with more education, and I can't imagine how any wife
would not support you.

Wish you all the best in dealing with this, and hope that the two of you might look into
some good, private counseling. It may just be a matter of her understanding what she's
actually doing, as my guess is that she's used to getting her way, and hasn't considered
how her education would affect your life, as well.
 

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Hey folks. As the title reads, this is my last post. This hobby has become an addiction for me, and has caused great grief in my home life. I am hanging it up. It was fun, but its got to come to an end, for the sake of my family and friends. Best of luck to you all. Cheers
Too bad you can't try to find a balance between your passion for detecting and your family. If I was unhappy about quitting detecting, my wife would NOT let me quit, she would ask me to strike a balance between family time and detecting time. Sorry for your loss! Good luck, Scott
 

I have had my share of addictions, I know what you are saying. I don't think they have any MD meetings YET. Good luck

Jim
 

Gee.....Glad I'm single! I once had a girlfriend tell me my metal detector would soon disappear like Jimmy Hoffa! She didn't approve of my "dirty ole coins" or my hobby. We are no longer together!:laughing7:
 

The way I see it, it's kinda like this song here. Just substitute "metal detecting" for "fishing" or "fish" :laughing7:



 

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I'll remember this thread when I marry. But I'm only 14 so...ya know
 

A friend told me that I should clear up my reasoning, so people don't get the wrong idea. I work full time, and do a fair amount of overtime because I am supporting the whole household. My wife is in school as well as my son. I only got out for a few hours a week, and one full 8 hr day every two weeks. Everyone knows that the hobby entails more than just swinging the coil in your back yard. There is research, permission, etc. To be clear, I always looked after at least 80% of the housework, yard work, helping my wife with her studies as well as my sons homework. Here is where the problem is....I found a killer site that is producing awesome finds. I take a bit of time to clean up and research my finds, overlay maps, and research the original owner of the land....why?..because I'm a history buff and its intriguing. It does not take up all my time, but I get messages and send messages to friends that comment on my finds, or want to help with research. That's the problem. I'm ok to go out for a couple hours a week, but that's it. If I want a couple hours in that week to research etc, then that's all I get. No detecting. So, she is fine with me going detecting for a couple hours a week, but that's it...no research, no phone calls, no messaging. The time I'm home is to be 100% metal detecting free. Rather than argue or fight, I removed my balls and placed them in her hand. That's the truth, that's how it is...I don't like it one bit, but if that's what momma wants....

That's even sadder than the occasional posts I read about people having to hide the fact that they bought a ProPointer or say that they "aren't allowed to"... Jeez
 

His post reminds me of my now ex wife........
Yet he should try to do what is necessary to save the marriage.......we know only what he wrote and we should accept his decision......time will tell........truly if the problem is not MD, then it is only a question of time till the end.
On the bright side, my new wife is awesome........she is from south america and there is such a huge difference in the women...amazing as it may sound, they like being women and like men being men...........at least from my experience, this is rare with American women.....
Good luck.
 

Jeepers, let the guy leave already. Other members have said good-bye from this site and their leaving was not dragged on this long. Get it done. Good-bye
 

I have been married 21 years now.. I made it absolutely clear before we married that I had hobbies and that when we got married I would still pursue those hobbies or it was a no go. I hunt, I fish, I played softball for 10 years, I metal detect, shoot my bow in archery competitions and yes still have time to go out and eat or catch a movie or whatever.. even coached my daughters softball team. Also was a hard core first person shooter addict for the last 8 years solid. COD squad leader. So get up early and stay up late..sleep is over rated anyways.
 

Hope everything works out! It sounds like this is just a temporary hiatus until school is over.
 

Jeepers, let the guy leave already. Other members have said good-bye from this site and their leaving was not dragged on this long. Get it done. Good-bye

Reading this gave me a good idea for adding another category on TNet: The Farewell/Goodbye category. These goodbye posts tend to spread-out all over the place. It would be great to move them under one heading so everyone can see who is leaving. Just my .02!
 

That's even sadder than the occasional posts I read about people having to hide the fact that they bought a ProPointer or say that they "aren't allowed to"... Jeez

Exactly WIT! Thats pretty sad stuff! My wife gets a little frustrated with my obsession, but limiting detecting and research time to 2 hours a week? Come on now! Thats not even 1 average hunt for me! If it makes me happy, she's pretty cool with it, I mean there are alot worse things a guy could do with his time!
 

I did counseling of divorced men for 10 years. If he is telling it correctly, that marriage is over. He does all that work, and she still fusses about a couple hours a week for his own hobby. There is nothing of the man left, not even the shell.

I lived that way for several years in my first marriage. I was not "permitted" to have friends or hobbys or any spending money except for lunch money in the factory cafeteria. Divorced 40 years 1 month and 55 days ago. When I filed, she whined she had given me the best years of her life. I was glad to hear that; I wouldn't have survived the worst years of her life. Married to my Mexican wife 38 years ago on July 3rd.
 

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