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"Coconut coir", a product made from coconut fibre in the area of the Indian Ocean and sold by Indian merchants was known to have been used in the Middle East during the 13th and 14th centurys through Indian trading.
The Templar's were based in the Middle East during that time with a headquarters on Cyprus late in the 13th century until the early 14th.
The Templar Grand Master was summoned from Cyprus by the Pope to Poiters, France in late 1306. de Molay left Cyprus with a large retinue of his forces and much of their treasure, more than likely with coir ropes and packing in their holds in early 1307 knowing full well of the impending trouble for his Order.
Once in French port they would not have unloaded their vessels awaiting whatever trouble came their way.
In September of 1307, one month before the arrests of all Templars in France the vessels along with 2nd in Command of the Order Gerard de Villers left port never to be seen again, more than likely with large amounts of coir still on board. de Villers who is said to have been elected the new Grand Master of the Order (de Molay had been among those arrested on October 13), became the most wanted man in France shortly after this.
A few other European countries did trade in the Middle East during that period, but if they had used coir from there taken it to a home port, unloaded it and then used it for a transatlantic voyage, it would have been well recorded...
The key phrase on post of pure speculation "it would have been well recorded".
Where is it well recorded" that Gerard de Villers left port?
The only mention of de Villers is in the testimony of de Chalons who stated he saw de Villers leading 50 horses.
In the same testimony de Chalons stated that "he heard" that 18 galleys set to sea- no mention of de Villers or any outside collaborating evidence that there ever were 18 galleys that set out to sea.
Where is it "well recorded" that the Templar galleys had coir ropes and packing in their holds and large amount of coir that were never unloaded?
Not all Templar Order of Monks were warriors, there were various craftsmen, cooks, janitors, and clerics who recorded all their banking and trade activities.
Where are all the "well recorded" coir transaction records?
After the October 13th arrests, most of these Templar monks joined other Orders, some employed their cooking and craftsmen skills in the secular world, and a few warrior knights hired out as mercenaries to various kingdoms ( remember, after all, the business of the Templars involved making profits).
The fallacy that is repeated as fact:
Coconut coir was traded in the 13th & 14th century Middle East
The Templars were in the Middle East in the 13th & 14th centuries
Therefor, the Templars traded in coconut coir.
Loki, you base your premise of a Templar voyage to Oak Island/Nova Scotia on coconut coir, but where is the "well recorded evidence" that the Templars actually used coir and MOST IMPORTANT, where is the "well recorded contemporary Medieval evidence" that a Templar voyage to Oak Island ever happened?
