More than one armed intruder...yes it happens

[0121stockpicker]

I also think that Pres. Bush should not have allowed Congress to run amok with the checkbook. Especially the last few years when he wanted to get along! Not that he wasn'yt a liberal spender, he was. But when confronted with the speaker( we call her the skull), he caved and spent and spent, Maybe he thought thhe media would like him more if he went to the dark side?

Registered Republican? Hah! So was Charlie Crist.

You also don't enter into wars and try and cut taxes at the same time. We call that economics 101.

 

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[Dave44]

AHHH but I thought economics 101 was dont't spend more than you bring in.. I missed your class.

 

[smokeythecat]

You know, if you line up the bad guys right, at 15 feet, one 12 gauge pumpkin ball will get them all! Spread out, go with 00 buck. Even if you miss they'll go deaf.

 

[0121stockpicker]

AHHH but I thought economics 101 was dont't spend more than you bring in.. I missed your class.

Dave we will make this simple for you. You know if you don't know things it's generally best not to post but your call. But for the most part people tend to choose to enter into discussions on topics they are familiar with. Again your call.


War = greater expenditures
Tax cuts = less revenue

= greater deficits.

 

[davest]

I can't wait until they do away with Social Security and Medicare. I would really like to see more people homeless and hungry. Darn socialist pogroms, citizens should be forced to give their money to the wall street titans where it will do the most good. A couple more wars would be nice too, maybe invade Pakistan and Iran at the same time, kids that can't afford to go to college can become citizens by serving the corporate interests in foreign lands. Now can we get back on the 4 girls and the multi home invasion guys and how a properly used AR15 with armor piercing bullets would have stopped said assault?

 

[smokeythecat]

They're not getting rid of any social programs. The government will go bankrupt soon, but they'll keep the programs.

 

[Dave44]

Dave we will make this simple for you. You know if you don't know things it's generally best not to post but your call. But for the most part people tend to choose to enter into discussions on topics they are familiar with. Again your call.


War = greater expenditures
Tax cuts = less revenue

= greater deficits.

I really am starting to think that you do not understand simple concepts. I actually encompassed your thought in mine. But you may not be reaching equilibrium yet. I will wait for you over there, you may be salvageable

 

[dieselram94]

Dave we will make this simple for you. You know if you don't know things it's generally best not to post but your call. But for the most part people tend to choose to enter into discussions on topics they are familiar with. Again your call.


War = greater expenditures
Tax cuts = less revenue

= greater deficits.

Where is your evidence tax cuts = lower revenue?
From the Heritage Foundation:There is a distinct pattern throughout American history: When tax rates are reduced, the economy's growth rate improves and living standards increase. Good tax policy has a number of interesting side effects. For instance, history tells us that tax revenues grow and "rich" taxpayers pay more tax when marginal tax rates are slashed. This means lower income citizens bear a lower share of the tax burden - a consequence that should lead class-warfare politicians to support lower tax rates.Conversely, periods of higher tax rates are associated with sub par economic performance and stagnant tax revenues. In other words, when politicians attempt to "soak the rich," the rest of us take a bath. Examining the three major United States episodes of tax rate reductions can prove useful lessons.

 

[0121stockpicker]

Where is your evidence tax cuts = lower revenue?
From the Heritage Foundation:There is a distinct pattern throughout American history: When tax rates are reduced, the economy's growth rate improves and living standards increase. Good tax policy has a number of interesting side effects. For instance, history tells us that tax revenues grow and "rich" taxpayers pay more tax when marginal tax rates are slashed. This means lower income citizens bear a lower share of the tax burden - a consequence that should lead class-warfare politicians to support lower tax rates.Conversely, periods of higher tax rates are associated with sub par economic performance and stagnant tax revenues. In other words, when politicians attempt to "soak the rich," the rest of us take a bath. Examining the three major United States episodes of tax rate reductions can prove useful lessons.

I'm talking about what actually happened during his administration as opposed to theoretical economics.

 

[Dave44]

I am sorry Stocky, I did not realize you posted your erroneous opinion in your post, I thought you liked facts. Pray tell, what Republican publication are you quoting that lower taxes = less revenue? This has never made sense. A purely leftist viewpoint, but you said that does not describe you, right?

 

[dieselram94]

I'm talking about what actually happened during his administration as opposed to theoretical economics.

This is starting to get long winded. Just which administration are you speaking of currently? What proof do you have to prove your point?

 

[0121stockpicker]

This is starting to get long winded. Just which administration are you speaking of currently? What proof do you have to prove your point?

Did the deficit not increase under bush?

 

[Dave44]

Since you don't care much about facts Mr picker, Here is a website that actually describes how the budget normally works,, except for the last 4 or 5 years , in the last couple the house is the only one that cares about a budget.

US Debt by President

It would be nice if you read it this time. I guess you know there is no real budget anymore?

 

[davest]

aside from the heritage foundation, which is a rightwing think tank sponsored by the Koch brothers, could you point out a few areas where living standards have improved for the majority of citizens? Where wages have kept pace with inflation (or non inflation for that matter), where homelessness has decreased and employment has improved? 44, I know you have it in you to show such things without tossing rocks so I'll thank you in advance. BTW, which sector of the public has benefitted the most with this great stock market recovery.

 

[Dave44]

You have some kinda weird jumps in thought Dave. What sectors do you think are better? Maybe it is Chicago, Detroit, New York, San Francisco... All the places that your dreaded Koch Brothers(whatever) Are not anywhere near the ruling party?

You have got to get over the Koch brothers thing buddy, It makes you sound like conspiracy nut where there is no conspiracy. Jealously hanging on to something you read in some strange website, Huh?

 

[olroy70]

I am sorry Stocky, I did not realize you posted your erroneous opinion in your post, I thought you liked facts. Pray tell, what Republican publication are you quoting that lower taxes = less revenue? This has never made sense. A purely leftist viewpoint, but you said that does not describe you, right?

BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, THERE WAS A PREZ THAT ONCE LOWERED THE TAXES, AND INCREASED INCOME TO THE FEDS........

WAS A WARMONGER, THO. MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK A WAYS FOR THE FACTS. (HINT.................JFK!!!!)

I think the term low information voters apply to more than 50% of the population............ Obama proves it!!!!

 

[Chadeaux]

You have some kinda weird jumps in thought Dave. What sectors do you think are better? Maybe it is Chicago, Detroit, New York, San Francisco... All the places that your dreaded Koch Brothers(whatever) Are not anywhere near the ruling party?

You have got to get over the Koch brothers thing buddy, It makes you sound like conspiracy nut where there is no conspiracy. Jealously hanging on to something you read in some strange website, Huh?

Actually Dave44, the problem is the Koch brothers are trying to put people to work . . . which hurts the current posse's desire for everyone to be superglued to the government's teat.

When people work, they learn that there is actually a better life than waiting for your EBT card to be refilled once a month.

Too many taxpayers would cause a slowing the growth of the Federal deficit, thus making the administration's sequestration circus (at least they have enough clowns for a circus) ineffective for What's his name.

One more problem with the Koch brothers. They actually help people learn so that they can do their jobs better. Those people, during the process, learn to think for themselves and sometimes leave their political party --- or at the very least are no longer fooled by everything coming out of What's his name's mouth.

 

[dieselram94]

Actually Dave44, the problem is the Koch brothers are trying to put people to work . . . which hurts the current posse's desire for everyone to be superglued to the government's teat.

When people work, they learn that there is actually a better life than waiting for your EBT card to be refilled once a month.

Too many taxpayers would cause a slowing the growth of the Federal deficit, thus making the administration's sequestration circus ineffective for What's his name.

One more problem with the Koch brothers. They actually help people learn so that they can do their jobs better. Those people, during the process, learn to think for themselves and sometimes leave their political party --- or at the very least are no longer fooled by everything coming out of What's his name's mouth.

Yup, for sure doesn't fit obama 's socialist agenda....

 

[Dano Sverige]

And all this has to do with the 2nd amendment...how?

 

[ShadowLine]

And all this has to do with the 2nd amendment...how?

Beats the hell out of me. This topic got off track quick.