Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

[Hillbilly Prince]

So you couldn't walk because you could not put weight on your third leg
Sorry
What happened about that place you were going to?
The promising site or ghost town?

 

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[coazon de oro]

Amigo Mikel,

Good thing you posted that story, I will forever stay clear from the Jordan river since history tends to repeat itself. Won't take the chances no matter the odds.

Homar

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

So you couldn't walk because you could not put weight on your third leg
Sorry
What happened about that place you were going to?
The promising site or ghost town?

Still waiting for cooler weather... today would be perfect, but my guide/landowner is tied up with a bass fishing tournament.
$200 entry fee and a $20,000 bass boat prize at stake, has his attention right now!

He isn’t the owner of the ghost town, but is my first contact, to get on that property.

I have been doing a very new and different type of research, than I am used to. Using google maps to trace the railroad right of way... tracks were pulled up, almost a century ago. It gets tricky, but a short drive to the GPS cords give me good information, by just checking my compass and dropping a pin on my map, has led me to the town where my little sister has lived for almost a decade.

She has been trying to help, with a little success. We looked behind all of the oldest area in town with no real signs.

An old map located a street ( just a few blocks from her house) named
“Depot street “ and a short drive yielded the actual depot, that has been well maintained by the city!



The history of the tracks from that point on has been recorded thoroughly, due to a high number of train and early automobiles, fitted to tracks, wrecks and derailments.

If we find just old pocket spill, it will be satisfying.

Oh, who am I kidding? That will be the beginning of another obsession!!!

Hopefully we will get started within a few weeks...

Thanks for asking.

#/;0{>~

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Mikel, you're hooked.

 

[Hillbilly Prince]

Still waiting for cooler weather... today would be perfect, but my guide/landowner is tied up with a bass fishing tournament.
$200 entry fee and a $20,000 bass boat prize at stake, has his attention right now!

He isn’t the owner of the ghost town, but is my first contact, to get on that property.

I have been doing a very new and different type of research, than I am used to. Using google maps to trace the railroad right of way... tracks were pulled up, almost a century ago. It gets tricky, but a short drive to the GPS cords give me good information, by just checking my compass and dropping a pin on my map, has led me to the town where my little sister has lived for almost a decade.

She has been trying to help, with a little success. We looked behind all of the oldest area in town with no real signs.

An old map located a street ( just a few blocks from her house) named
“Depot street “ and a short drive yielded the actual depot, that has been well maintained by the city!

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The history of the tracks from that point on has been recorded thoroughly, due to a high number of train and early automobiles, fitted to tracks, wrecks and derailments.

If we find just old pocket spill, it will be satisfying.

Oh, who am I kidding? That will be the beginning of another obsession!!!

Hopefully we will get started within a few weeks...

Thanks for asking.

#/;0{>~

Maybe you could help me with something. Where is a good source for the old railroad maps?
My Arkansas grandfather was an engineer on a steam licomotive.

 

[JohnWhite]

Here is a little suggestion I made online today... "Church's is my favorite place for fried chicken...But you do not have a chicken sandwich...May I suggest that you add a chicken sandwich to your menu...Might I also suggest you use waffles for buns on said sandwichKFC has made a sandwich with donuts...But everyone knows that there is nothing that compares to chicken and waffles"... I made this suggestion on the Church's website...I wonder IF they will ever make such a sandwichlol

Ed T

 

[Al D]

Maybe you could help me with something. Where is a good source for the old railroad maps?
My Arkansas grandfather was an engineer on a steam licomotive.

I have some, PM if interested

 

[Hillbilly Prince]

I have some, PM if interested

Thanks Alan!

 

[Hillbilly Prince]

Here is a little suggestion I made online today... "Church's is my favorite place for fried chicken...But you do not have a chicken sandwich...May I suggest that you add a chicken sandwich to your menu...Might I also suggest you use waffles for buns on said sandwichKFC has made a sandwich with donuts...But everyone knows that there is nothing that compares to chicken and waffles"... I made this suggestion on the Church's website...I wonder IF they will ever make such a sandwichlol

Ed T

Well, I like waffle sandwiches. Suppose you could contact KFC, post the idea on twitter.
Heard a story about my brother. He worked in the oil industry and was buying a gun here and there. He never hung onto anything for long. Some guy had a beautiful 50 cal. percussion rifle, but complained it kicked too hard. My brother told him he could solve this by putting his back up against a tree when firing. The guy tried it and ended up with a severely bruised shoulder.
My brother bought the gun for fifty dollars.

 

[JohnWhite]

Well, I like waffle sandwiches. Suppose you could contact KFC, post the idea on twitter.
Heard a story about my brother. He worked in the oil industry and was buying a gun here and there. He never hung onto anything for long. Some guy had a beautiful 50 cal. percussion rifle, but complained it kicked too hard. My brother told him he could solve this by putting his back up against a tree when firing. The guy tried it and ended up with a severely bruised shoulder.
My brother bought the gun for fifty dollars.

I made the suggestion on the Church's Fried Chicken site HBP...KFC came out with a donut chicken sandwich...Go figure...I am not a great fan of KFC...I would rather eat Albertson's fried chicken...lol...But in a pinch I will get me some Popeyes...I have to drive to Canoga Park to get my Church's fix...Anyhow...I would rather eat Church's than KFC anyday...KFC is not as good as it once was...IF I had the cash I'd open me up a few Church's franchises here on the Central Coast...And I'd sell some chicken sandwiches on Eggo waffles...That is IF Church's could strike a deal with the owners of Eggo waffles......I think that Eggo waffles would make some mighty tasty buns...Then again Church's could prolly make some tastier waffle buns IF they put their minds to it...

Your brother got him a good deal...I wonder IF he'll shoot said firearm with his back against a tree...rofl

Ed T

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

Now, about those maps. The best ones that I have picked up were from the local historical and genealogy societies.

I have collected information from some of the online map sites, but I like the hands on help from the locals.

There is a working, running train in the west end of the county, that is the root of the tracks that have been removed. It has been transferred from one railroad line to another over the years. But it is now just a part of the tourist town.
If you know what cities the train ran through, it should have some sort of historical group.
And there is almost always someone right here that can add to the list.

It’s kinda handy hanging around this thread.

Happy hunting.

#/;0{>~

 

[uglymailman]

Mikel, while you check out the town with the rilroad, see if it is close to a creek that could have been used as a water stop.
I had a Great Aunt & Uncle that lived near RR tracks. About 1/4 mile from their house was where the train stopped at a creek to take on water. It was also the place my Uncle liked to fish and he sometimes found coins on the tracks/roadbed. While the train took on water, the Conductor would sweep the cars and dump it between the rails. 50-100 feet from the bridge. Funny, they only did it while going West, not when headed East. Must have been a mileage thing? Good luck.

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

Mikel, while you check out the town with the rilroad, see if it is close to a creek that could have been used as a water stop.
I had a Great Aunt & Uncle that lived near RR tracks. About 1/4 mile from their house was where the train stopped at a creek to take on water. It was also the place my Uncle liked to fish and he sometimes found coins on the tracks/roadbed. While the train took on water, the Conductor would sweep the cars and dump it between the rails. 50-100 feet from the bridge. Funny, they only did it while going West, not when headed East. Must have been a mileage thing? Good luck.

That water supply, all over the area is plentiful. There are several spring fed streams all along the route.

There was also a healthy industry in cordwood for fuel and lumber, ties and log hauling cars, that were left on a side track for loading the logs for special needs.

But I have not seen anything yet, that looks like a base for a water tower.
It has been been sixty to eighty years since the tracks were removed, so that may have become overgrown by now.

Thanks for the tip about the conductor sweeping the floor onto the tracks. That adds to the possibilities!

#/;0{>~

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

There are many small streams like this, that come out from springs.
There were several tomato canneries that were doing business with the railroad. One year of tomato Blythe wiped out the the revenue for the railroad and created the ghost towns.
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The area has several different areas of interest...

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Who knows what will come up...?

#/;0{>~

 

[uglymailman]

Mikel. As I remember it there was no tower. There was a concrete box maybe 3-4' square with a 2" pipe going up. Anyway that was all that was left in early 60's. Not sure when steam cars went out. Know some were brought BACK into service during WW2. I'd guess the tower, if there was one, was gone by 60's.
I once was on a survey to relocate a RR between Caney,KS. & Copan,OK.. Did find several Edison acid bottles and a couple of real nice porcelain insulators along right of way. Good luck.

 

[Real of Tayopa]

I] was recently reading about the Border patrol, it was claimed that they were nothing but diaper changers and were corrupt. Sigh, when i was in the Border patrol in the early 50's...we were a different breed then, we were fiercely proud of our organization,which ranked with the old Texas Rangers. i remember there was little corruption, we would look upon any misbehavior as a treasonous act we were personally directed and were efficient in policing ourselves' it was almost unheard of. I believthat I posted a picture of my BorderPatrol class some where in here. There were something like 3000 of us for the entire United States then , now there are some where around 30,000 of them. it is a different game today

 

[DeepseekerADS]

Bless your Soul Old Friend, bless your soul. I pray to see you posting for the many years in front of us. My docs always said "you gonna dwop dead" = still waiting for that myself. We are here, I guess, for a reason......

 

[Real of Tayopa]

I wull do my best to honor your request my friend Deepseeker, old friend.

 

[Hillbilly Prince]

I wull do my best to honor your request my friend Deepseeker, old friend.

You are Oro's friend. Perhaps you can help reason with him. I recently hinted he provide a source for his theory on the sky being blue. He pointed me to a book titled "The Sky Was Blue". Maybe in years past, but how about now?
I'm beginning to think Oro would argue with a sign post, as my father would say

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Oro is a rationabe man, it's his wife,




beth that is your problem. (it's always the woman's fault.























remember the











i have argued with him to accept a partnership in Tayopa or Naranjal,but - - - - Actually it's Beth who you have to watch out for. Hill billy.

























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