Hello Don Jose
Its same in many countries although each country has different interpretations of treasure trove laws. Some depend on the age of item etc.. In South America they do not give a dam about colonial relics. However if native get thee to scaffold. :-) Ironic as revisionists seem want write out their colonial past. The is real danger of revisionist history can be manipulated to suit the in favor agenda of the day.
That can flow onto policy making in regards to treasure trove laws.
If possible the less you have to do with bureaucrats the better?
For example in the process of stating in non incriminating terms the person or persons involved? Get my drift? :-)
There is certain "some one" who pulled fast one late last year. Masterminded in one country circumvented the laws in another. Purchased a property by proxy. Discovered treasure resold the property inflated the value of property in calculation of the treasure on the property. Then organised international monetary transactions through various accounts then divide shares among those involved.
No treasure laws was violated. No treasure was removed. Thus the discovery became the discretion of the new property owner. Who paid for the property that had treasure discounted enough for him to make a nice profit also. If he should chose to make the discovery public.
Thus the treasure trove law not allowing foreigners to benefit from treasure was technically circumvented. Not one bureaucrat was involved in fact none of them was even aware the deal had taken place. the entire transaction was done deal in two weeks, And a few locals involved was paid off.
Of course when a few locals became flush with cash inevitably some one will spill the beans. The local mayor got wind of matter and made an attempt to get a cut. Other wise he was going to make a big stink. However he got flown out to another country, fed booze and wild women then shunted off back to hole he crawled out from. left wondering with no proof because people who was in the know wasn't talking.
They was too busy counting their money. :-)
Kanacki
Hi all.
I always make the same agreement with land owners for permission to hunt their property.
When I am done, I lay out all of my finds and he gets to pick up the one piece that he wants, then I do the same.
We repeat the process until it is all gone, or one of us has all the things that we want to keep.
That keeps it fair for all.
I have kept my agreement forms with names and phone numbers, so that I can call them back for a reference when approaching a new land owner.
We both sign it. Where the landowners sign, their is a statement that I have their permission to be there, and it goes on to say that if a neighbor has concerns that they can call them to confirm that I am there with permission.
As for public land.... That’s a bit different.
I have actually been able to stake a claim on the edge of a state park, for the GPAA! With one restriction, that we don’t undermine a trail along the edge of the creek. The trail runs from a parking area to a cave.
I had to call five different people to get it done but it was worth it.
It was a civil war camp and there is still plenty to dig for.
A year or so afterwards, I was testing my design for a self contained hand powered suction dredge.
I was standing in about a foot deep edge of the water and trying to check it out as to what it would capture.
I had tossed out three of my teaching nugglets that are pieces of 22 bullets that were shot into a sandy bank and recovered and painted with “ metallic gold “ paint.
They look real and will find their way to the bottom of a gold pan!
Kids that I have taught to pan , that see them in the pan are hooked for life.
Back to the story...
while I was testing the dredge, a Young man in uniform came down to where I was and said “ You know that you cannot keep anything that you find there, right?
I finished drawing up my three nugglets , turned around and opened the dredge, collected my my pieces and said “actually, yes I can, I have a claim and you need to read the mining laws of 1849.”
I dumped the rest of the heavy junk back in the creek, as I walked past him while still scratching his head about my answer and dropped one of my pretty little golden nugglets in his hand and the other two, into my pocket!
I didn’t tell him that they were fake.
I sometimes wonder what he did with it!!!!
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