Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

Interested Party in UK said:
Isn't that where us chaps fit in....?

:laughing7:

Let us continue our quest!


IUP
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,,,:),,,,,the ones the ocean devoured are a bit high ended for one man bands,,,,,of those the pirates pillaged, most of it might have been already spent by the pirates but some part which could be substantial might be out there secretly hidden as sort of 'Piraret's life savings' ,,,but which they were not lucky to recover it again as they might have perished in their next campaigns never to return...
TT
 

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IUP,,,
before we end the weekend update,,here is one book I borrowed from a library but have not read it yet...
It is entitled "the seven lost trails of Africa" (being a record of sundry expeditions ,new and old,in search of buried treasure)by Hedely A. Chilvers 1930.In the preface the seven trails or yarns are enumerated as follows
1)the way to the great valley of precious stones said to lie somewhere in the wild tangle of hills to the north of the bend of the orange river
2)the trails to the old diamond-craters ,the sources of the gems scattered over southern Africa
3)the track of the diamonds and gold bars supposed to have been buried by the murderer Swartz in 1903 in the banks of the Blyde River in the Transvaal
4)the precise site of the Grosvenor ,which sank with great store of Indian valuables on the Pondo coast of Africa in 1782
5)the way to the Rhodesian Cache in which Lobengula ,King of the Matabele ,buried his hoard of diamonds ,gold,and ivory shortly before the Matebele war of 1893.This treasure has been assessed at £2000000
6)the trail to the old silver mines at Chicova , or Chicoa , on the north side of the Zambezi , from which it is thought supplies were derived for the courts of the ancient world,and which the Portuguese sought vainly to find the in the sixteenth century.
7)the whereabouts of a second and larger half of the giant Cullinan diamond , supposed to have been stolen by a native employed in the Premier Mine near Pretoria

I will read the book sometime...But if you get it, check it out as well.

TT
 

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Interested Party in UK said:
TT, the respected British Museum has some of the greatest pieces in the world. But due to political delicacies, cultural sensitivities and concerns of the providence of objects, mind-blowing shiny gold and silver thingies are not allowed to see the light of day....

The Don is right, the Vatican is probably operating under similar guidelines.

But I still maintain, the best pieces and artefacts are in the hands of private collectors who have no such concerns...:dontknow:

IUP
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:coffee2::coffee2::coffee2:I agree 100%,there are no concerns with private collectors, that's why they are private, most don't care if anyone ever views there collection,most treasure hunters would be shocked to learn what treasure legends being hunted for today are split among private collections,and who, and what organizations actually have them,and when they were actually found. :hello:NP:cat:
 

Hey TT,

Nice reading there. I have come across those stories in various other books and they are interesting. Thing is, Africa is such a big continent and so much is still lying there waiting to be discovered.

You know I talked about gold and how to purchase decent amounts..., I looked at a region of Ghana called the "Ashanti Belt", but it is still fairly dodgy if you don't have the contacts there. The Chinese have already made their mark and are slowing but surely taking the biggest piece of the pie...

IUP
 

Not Peralta said:
:coffee2::coffee2::coffee2:I agree 100%,there are no concerns with private collectors, that's why they are private, most don't care if anyone ever views there collection,most treasure hunters would be shocked to learn what treasure legends being hunted for today are split among private collections,and who, and what organizations actually have them,and when they were actually found. :hello:NP:cat:
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NP

That's why it pays in this area to have the contacts in the know and a network of heavy-hitters...:occasion14:

Otherwise, it could a be a hopeless, sad errand.

IUP
 

Interested Party in UK said:
Hey TT,

Nice reading there. I have come across those stories in various other books and they are interesting. Thing is, Africa is such a big continent and so much is still lying there waiting to be discovered.

You know I talked about gold and how to purchase decent amounts..., I looked at a region of Ghana called the "Ashanti Belt", but it is still fairly dodgy if you don't have the contacts there. The Chinese have already made their mark and are slowing but surely taking the biggest piece of the pie...

IUP
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yeah IUP...contact is very important....the Chinese are far more experts when it comes to creating a network of business contacts in a large area as Africa...the reason is Chinese companies are either government owned or partially owned by government that they have a single mind behind them that orchestrates thier activities...hence a contact that one company makes is shared for the future for another venture in another sector etc...even one-man band entrepreneurs , individuals and students move in such a national vision to develop thier country by updating information within their inner circle...even tourists when visiting an area have an extra motive of learning something and replicating that in China...etc,,,
but try to make contacts by other means,,,I beleive there is a big Ghanian community in UK..:)
TT
 

Interested Party in UK said:
NP

That's why it pays in this area to have the contacts in the know and a network of heavy-hitters...:occasion14:

Otherwise, it could a be a hopeless, sad errand.

IUP
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:coffee2::hello:That's why it is very important to maintain your credibility and reputation with everyone,not only in every day life,but,especially in the treasure world.NP:cat:
 

tintin_treasure said:
yeah IUP...contact is very important....the Chinese are far more experts when it comes to creating a network of business contacts in a large area as Africa...the reason is Chinese companies are either government owned or partially owned by government that they have a single mind behind them that orchestrates thier activities...hence a contact that one company makes is shared for the future for another venture in another sector etc...even one-man band entrepreneurs , individuals and students move in such a national vision to develop thier country by updating information within their inner circle...even tourists when visiting an area have an extra motive of learning something and replicating that in China...etc,,,
but try to make contacts by other means,,,I beleive there is a big Ghanian community in UK..:)
TT
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I have tried to prioritise my tasks, TT.

There is so many possibilities out there and it is easy to get or feel overwhelmed.

With guys like us, with limited finances, timescales and access to support, it is vital we make the 'right' call on as many occasions as possible.

After not going ahead with the Ghana thingie, that is why I'm proceeding with the South America project instead.

As a wise person once said;

"Great love and great achievements also involve great risk."


IUP
 

Not Peralta said:
:coffee2::hello:That's why it is very important to maintain your credibility and reputation with everyone,not only in every day life,but,especially in the treasure world.NP:cat:
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Agree with you fully NP.

I think it is fair to say most of us would prefer to deal and work with folk who don't leave a pong of BS in the air behind them and as a result, compromise their credibility.

Only deal in what you know you can do.

But discipline and knowing one's limits comes hard to some unfortunately.


IUP
 

Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp said:
NP mi amigo, IPK's messsage "But discipline and knowing one's limits comes hard to some unfortunately".
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Amigo:coffee2:Yes,It does ,being a former crusader,pirate,marauder,bandit,being hung by the neck in my previous lives,helped me change my ways some what in this one,every one is subject to change in one way or the other.:laughing7::laughing7::laughing7::hello:NP:cat:
 

Gentlemen, I believe the operative word was "Pong"....not "Bong".

Sober up and carry on. :whip2:
 

Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp said:
NP mi amigo, IPK's messsage "But discipline and knowing one's limits comes hard to some unfortunately".
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Hi Don,

By this I meant that discipline in not getting side-tracked even after receiving setback after setback. Keeping your resolve eve after expending all you have and not getting any tangible results. Trying to prove something you know to be true t disbelievers who mock you and guess your faults whilst increasing their own conceit.

In this day an age of instant results, you have to be super-strong mentally and able to juggle conflicting demands without losing your discipline.

But then comes the other part about knowing one's limits...

Can you really 'dispose' of a treasure if you are fortunate to find one?

Would you really be able to deal with corrupt or overly officious government flunkies who would love nothing more than to relieve you of your goodies and put your arse in prison?
Would you could you take that risk?

After spending years and years of something that turns out to be a cock-a-doodle story, can it be possible to simply walk away?

These are the things I have and am grappling with..


IUP
 

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