Lost dutchman mine possibly found!

[dredgernaut]

they also have a private website. they have a long list of productions for sure. that is all I know..

 

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[somehiker]

now I am pissed off. you guys all went and got blocked without me. I always get left out. thanks guys.. lol.

chaggy is a scout for raw tv. out of london england. i also spoke with a production assistant . i even had an interview. i did not win any contest , because its not a contest. they are looking for many stories to sort through. these film scouts come through here several times a year looking for ideas. most treasure hunters walk away as they realize the show will discredit there work. i did not even claim to have found anything of value. just a idea for an episode or 2. they said they will be in touch. does that mean I won the contest.. lol.

p.s. if I use tnet and I am not logged in. I will appear as a guest.. so you wont really know who is a guest or member anyway.. Just sayin...

Thanks for the info.
Being told you're a "winner" can mean something far different than what many assume it does.
Just sayin.......

 

[dredgernaut]

lol. hell wayne. i was born a winner. i dont need to be told. lololol. just kidding... kinda.
seriously though , just thought roger should know he is not the only contender.. lol. many people submitted ideas. all of the interesting stories get a call back. and they filter out the less than desirable stories and people through this process. everyone is told they will be in touch if this moves forward.... that is not winning any contest. just sayin..

 

[GoDeep]

If he doesn't care to read what we have to say about his ideas, that's ok. We can continue to share our thoughts on this topic with each other, rather than him.

You got a good point, I remember once being reminded by the mods, you don't own the thread or the posts, once you post them, they are Tnets, so he can't stop us from continuing to debate the merits and evidence. He's just shooting himself in the foot and isolating himself which will cause this thread to die on him (which he seems to value the views alot).

He's just ignoring us, so he doesn't have to answer simple questions, which is fine, he WASN'T answering them anyway! How could we have gotten to page 47 only to learn the Dutchman mine was apparently sealed (or wasn't?) and that he wasn't inside the Dutchman mine (or was?) or that he saw skulls (or didn't ?).

 

[Roger Rantz]

now I am pissed off. you guys all went and got blocked without me. I always get left out. thanks guys.. lol.

chaggy is a scout for raw tv. out of london england. i also spoke with a production assistant . i even had an interview. i did not win any contest , because its not a contest. they are looking for many stories to sort through. these film scouts come through here several times a year looking for ideas. most treasure hunters walk away as they realize the show will discredit there work. i did not even claim to have found anything of value. just a idea for an episode or 2. they said they will be in touch. does that mean I won the contest.. lol.

p.s. if I use tnet and I am not logged in. I will appear as a guest.. so you wont really know who is a guest or member anyway.. Just sayin...

I guess you are right about not knowing the guest thing. And you are right, it was raw tv. And they said they were going for a film permit for me... They wanted to film this summer.

 

[GoDeep]

And they said they were going for a film permit for me...

Visions of grandeur much?

No, the film permit wouldn't be for you, it would be for their show, not your show. That's a big difference. The show, if it even happens, isn't about YOU, its about the legend. You may not even be in the show or have a few minutes at best if it ever happens.

 

[GoDeep]

You've laid bare the past 40 pages, You aren't a historian, you aren't a archeologist, you're not an anthropologist , you're not a world adventurer/explorer, you're not a treasure hunter, you're just a guy from the east coast with a weakly supported theory after evidently stumbling across some mines or caves and doing some google earth searching. It's not even clear you've been in the Dutchman mine or seen any gold in it at all. You won't be some reoccurring character on the show. You'll get a few minutes max on the show if anything at all.

 

[dredgernaut]

roger I know I am right. I also know they will call you and say" sorry roger we were unable to procure a film permit for your area. its protected land. so without a permit - no show. thanks and good luck on your hunt".. also good luck getting the film crew to fly in from England, during the pandemic, to the hottest driest environment around, during the wrong season to be out there hiking. to spend a bunch of money to film a guy that cannot provide one shred of evidence to support his claim. while being doubted publicly on the site where chaggy and everyone else can see you have provided no proof of any kind. and have imagined the contents of the supposed walled up mine.. and witnessed your ability to interact with the same public they hope will watch their shows.. you are not helping your own public relations.
but it sounds like a good investment to me. lololol. Best of luck to you for sure.

 

[GoDeep]

.. to spend a bunch of money to film a guy that cannot provide one shred of evidence to support his claim. while being doubted publicly on the site where chaggy and everyone else can see you have provided no proof of any kind. and have imagined the contents of the supposed walled up mine.. and witnessed your ability to interact with the same public they hope will watch their shows.. you are not helping your own public relations.
but it sounds like a good investment to me. lololol. Best of luck to you for sure.

You bring up a great point here. I've long wondered how/why they would be interested in him period. If one things been laid bare this past 40 pages is, he has absolutely no tangible evidence of anything and can't even answer the most basic of questions (which makes me wonder how he answered what i assume was their very pointed questions). I mean imagine being a producer and asking for his evidence and he sends you dozens of non discernable screen shots of google earth and then asking him for actual pictures and this is the lone picture he can send you? They probably left him with a polite, "thanks, we'll be in contact " and he took it to mean some imaginary contract is incoming.

 

[Roger Rantz]

roger I know I am right. I also know they will call you and say" sorry roger we were unable to procure a film permit for your area. its protected land. so without a permit - no show. thanks and good luck on your hunt".. also good luck getting the film crew to fly in from England, during the pandemic, to the hottest driest environment around, during the wrong season to be out there hiking. to spend a bunch of money to film a guy that cannot provide one shred of evidence to support his claim. while being doubted publicly on the site where chaggy and everyone else can see you have provided no proof of any kind. and have imagined the contents of the supposed walled up mine.. and witnessed your ability to interact with the same public they hope will watch their shows.. you are not helping your own public relations.
but it sounds like a good investment to me. lololol. Best of luck to you for sure.

They have been in hotter. But yea the pandemic is a problem unless they can be considered national interest like they did "Nigel Farge" from the UK. And i do have doubts that they can obtain a film permit from a corrupt government. That's why you always have a back up plan.

 

[dredgernaut]

roger . you are the most optimistic person i have never met.. best of luck too ya.. stay safe out there.

 

[Roger Rantz]

But the superstition Mountains have been film plenty of times and that's protected. The only difference is that i found it and i think the government will try and suppress that fact. I believe the government is corrupt enough to not give me my recognition

 

[dredgernaut]

who cares about recognition when you could fill your backpack a few times, melt the gold, add little copper to change composition. making untraceable. sell off in ingots to pawn shops and private buyers in smaller quantities and get paid without ridicule.. i have been denied a filming permit in the superstitions twice already.. one of the times was with raw tv.. at first i wanted to just share what i thought i knew. now i dont want to share much of anything.. lol
just sayin..

 

[Roger Rantz]

roger I know I am right. I also know they will call you and say" sorry roger we were unable to procure a film permit for your area. its protected land. so without a permit - no show. thanks and good luck on your hunt".. also good luck getting the film crew to fly in from England, during the pandemic, to the hottest driest environment around, during the wrong season to be out there hiking. to spend a bunch of money to film a guy that cannot provide one shred of evidence to support his claim. while being doubted publicly on the site where chaggy and everyone else can see you have provided no proof of any kind. and have imagined the contents of the supposed walled up mine.. and witnessed your ability to interact with the same public they hope will watch their shows.. you are not helping your own public relations.
but it sounds like a good investment to me. lololol. Best of luck to you for sure.

I sent them a lot of info, lizzie said Thanks it was amazing. .. So all i see is people trying to suppress me on here, because they want IT. And my guest audience is way higher than the member friends on here

 

[GoDeep]

I believe the government is corrupt enough to not give me my recognition

Well, since you mention it, you are right, they won't. This is literally the only on the ground evidence you've provided them. Do you feel that is sufficient for anyone to go follow up on it? Do you feel they should hoist you up on their shoulders and throw you a parade? That there is what one would call a Napoleon complex.

 

[Roger Rantz]

In fact members are out numbered 7:1 now. Before my google penalty, i had like 300 guests at one time any giving hour and climbing. But i purposely inflicted the penalty, 2000 views a day was too much.

 

[Roger Rantz]

And i got most of yalls views daily, they dont care about your opinion, just the fact that you view. They get paid for views, not your opinion

 

[azdave35]

I sent them a lot of info, lizzie said Thanks it was amazing. .. So all i see is people trying to suppress me on here, because they want IT. And my guest audience is way higher than the member friends on here

IT?..what is IT?....if anyone wanted IT they could just go get IT...you told everyone where IT is...lol

 

[Roger Rantz]

Some of yall would watch, just hoping i get proven wrong. I am fine with that

 

[releventchair]

But the superstition Mountains have been film plenty of times and that's protected. The only difference is that i found it and i think the government will try and suppress that fact. I believe the government is corrupt enough to not give me my recognition

Do you know for a fact the government is not aware of your site?
Recognition (IF your site is unknown to the government) will likely be adding the sight to their data base. Jumps for joy might not result , but their work slogs on. Inspect the mines , then restrict access while prioritizing what needs done , if more than sealing a mine is required..

[The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Service, the Department of the Interior's Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and National Park Service, and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) identified at least 140,000 abandoned hardrock mine features, such as a tunnel, on lands under their jurisdictions. Of these, about 67,000 pose or may pose physical safety hazards—danger of injury or death—and about 22,500 pose or may pose environmental hazards—risks to human health or wildlife from long-term exposure to harmful substances. Agency officials also estimated there could be more than 390,000 abandoned hardrock mine features on federal land they have not captured in their databases, and agencies are developing more comprehensive information about these mines.

Forest Service, BLM, National Park Service, EPA, and Interior's Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE) spent, on average, about $287 million annually to address physical safety and environmental hazards at abandoned hardrock mines from fiscal years 2008 through 2017, for a total of about $2.9 billion (see figure). Of this total, the agencies spent about 88 percent ($2.5 billion) addressing environmental hazards, and about $1 billion was reimbursed by private parties, such as former mine owners. Federal officials also estimated that it would cost billions more to address these mines in the future.]