Lost dutchman mine possibly found!

[Roger Rantz]

I also sent an email to the cheif archoelogist of nps on this site around december, of course i still havent got a thank you for your time or nothing.

 

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[Roger Rantz]

In fact call blm and tell them you want to lease that site. When they tell you no, tell them you know whats there and watch their reaction. Just a simple phone call

 

[GoDeep]

Its hard to put together a team who doesnt want to steal it, or break the law flying a drone, and summers to hot out there. It was 148 degrees in the hummer when i blew my tires and i had to drive back on a rim to get help. The second trip i took that cave pic, and suffered a nasty fall two trails from the top.

There are small piles of gold, which i cant really say small, because even though it looks like they dumped IT, it still looked pretty rich laying on the outside.

Theres gold laying on the trail near the boulder that is hanging.

All right, with summer coming up on us it'll be a minimum of 6 months to a year. That's disappointing, was looking forward to seeing those piles of gold piled up. Oh well, theres always next year!

 

[Roger Rantz]

Maybe november unless someone else goes here but you have to worry about rattle snakes, scorpions, gila monsters, the heat, and falling. If anyone goes there make sure youre not alone! It is dangerous, ive had a close call every trip

 

[GoDeep]

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How many trips have you made there?

 

[Roger Rantz]

Three, first trip couldnt make it past five miles to the spot, tires blew on the hummer in extreme heat. Second trip, made IT to the spot, got a picture of that cave, dropped my gear to climb the rest of the trail. Then i fell from the top, had to climb back up for my gear and phone. The phone was dead, and immediately went back to my team. I was hurt. 3rd time, my team member forgot his phone, and mine was dying using GPS, which i had no signal, that if i got out of the GPS it wouldnt had been able to reload. We headed back home, and near one of the cities we stopped for gas. Just as we were about to get back on the interstate, all the lug nut pins broke but two on one of our tires. I definitely need a go pro.

 

[azdave35]

Three, first trip couldnt make it past five miles to the spot, tires blew on the hummer in extreme heat. Second trip, made IT to the spot, got a picture of that cave, dropped my gear to climb the rest of the trail. Then i fell from the top, had to climb back up for my gear and phone. The phone was dead, and immediately went back to my team. I was hurt. 3rd time, my team member forgot his phone, and mine was dying using GPS, which i had no signal, that if i got out of the GPS it wouldnt had been able to reload. We headed back home, and near one of the cities we stopped for gas. Just as we were about to get back on the interstate, all the lug nut pins broke but two on one of our tires. I definitely need a go pro.

roger...what attracted you to that area?

 

[Roger Rantz]

I also need to find a reliable team, ive been paying thousands of dollars, and they either cant hike the rest of the way with me, or they forget equipment, after they told me they had it before the hike

 

[Roger Rantz]

roger...what attracted you to that area?

I was financing a gold mine out there to own, and I had done research before hand, and found out capt Pauline Weaver founded these mines. I decided to go on google maps, and i noticed two large white boulders that looked out of place. When I zoomed in, i noticed an eagle miles in size. Then i found the monuments, i matched everything up, and pinpointed where i thought the mine was. And when i finally made it and seen all them caves, i was like a kid in a toy store. I was so excited, I got complacent and fell.

 

[gollum]

Okay, we are now getting to a point where I need to interject some common sense into this conversation.

Roger, don't take this as anything personal against you. Anybody that is thinking about following up on Roger's information needs to do some serious research.

1. Do you even know who Roger is? What are his bonafides?

2. Roger has made some big claims, but has yet to show a single unambiguous photograph or proof of ANYTHING of value. Some of Roger's Family claims don't hold up to scrutiny, so I tend to let that overlap into how I feel about his treasure claims. Also, this site is in the New Water Moluntains WILDERNESS AREA". Good luck on trying to legally keep anything.

I have been in this area several times in the past. I drove (then climbed) up to the "hole in the rock". While I won't say its impossible for there to be a source of gold there, if you aren't used to desert mountain areas, I don't advise going to the area. If anybody is seriously thinking about going there, I advise doing some things first:

1. Contact Roger on the side. Get to know him and see if he seems legit.

2. Give yourself a little test. Go to the Superstition Mountains, to The Peralta Trailhead. Using a TOPO Map and Compass, hike from there to First Water Trailhead. Its about 8 miles as the crow flies on well defined trails. If you can do this without issues, its about the same distance to hike into Roger's Site and back (with no maintained trails).

3. Don't go by yourself.

Mike

 

[deducer]

2. Give yourself a little test. Go to the Superstition Mountains, to The Peralta Trailhead. Using a TOPO Map and Compass, hike from there to First Water Trailhead. Its about 8 miles as the crow flies on well defined trails. If you can do this without issues, its about the same distance to hike into Roger's Site and back (with no maintained trails).

If he needs a TOPO and a compass to get from the Peralta TH to First Water, he should just stay home.

 

[Roger Rantz]

Im sorry i thought it was in the kofa

 

[Roger Rantz]

In la paz county both the dutchman and capt Pauline Weaver were there

 

[Roger Rantz]

If he needs a TOPO and a compass to get from the Peralta TH to First Water, he should just stay home.

You must of missed the part when the moderator said mocking or insults was grounds for suspension for awhile, plz go back a page or two

 

[Idahodutch]

You must of missed the part when the moderator said mocking or insults was grounds for suspension for awhile, plz go back a page or two

Roger,
The "he" that deduced refers to, is not you. It is a hypothetical future member of the team you are wanting to find.
If you read the posts again, maybe you will see the mistake.

You would do good to slow down on unfounded accusations.

 

[Roger Rantz]

Roger,
The "he" that deduced refers to, is not you. It is a hypothetical future member of the team you are wanting to find.
If you read the posts again, maybe you will see the mistake.

You would do good to slow down on unfounded accusations.

Thank you for pointing that out, my screen is cracked

 

[Roger Rantz]

But insults are not to be directed at anyone, me, you, future members etc,..

 

[Idahodutch]

But insults are not to be directed at anyone, me, you, future members etc,..

Neither are false accusations.

I think you know that hypothetical = not real, pretend.
Besides, it is not the only accusations you've been making.

 

[Roger Rantz]

Neither are false accusations.

I think you know that hypothetical = not real, pretend.
Besides, it is not the only accusations you've been making.

Pretty sure the mod said no more mocking or insults period. But Im not here to argue so, Im just going to move on from this conversation

 

[Roger Rantz]

proof that the dutchman, and capt Pauline Weaver were here. Four pks line up to look like one pk, weavers needle, dagger, horse head, bull pass, backwards thumb, sombero needle pk, Stone face that face east, pinnacle rock canyon.