Llanganatis Mountains: Valverdes Gold

[Triangulator]

I'm joining this discussion because or your reference to D'Orsay. I'm currently writing a book on Dick D'Orsay who hunted for the Valverde Treasure for ten years (approx. 1935 - 1945). He was my great-uncle. I have a large amount of family archives, letters, photographs, even mementos from my uncle to draw upon. It's a passion project which will take a while to complete.
I'm not aware that Dick wrote a book but I would not be surprised if he didn't publish something smaller. Can you confirm that you were referring to the same D'Orsay? I've attached photo of him in Ecuador about 1942 or 43. It's been colorized from the original. Dick is on the 3rd horse on the right.

 

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[freeman]

I'd wager your uncle never read King Solomon's Mines by H Rider Haggard. '

 

[Triangulator]

Yes. I am very interested in anything you can supply regarding D'Orsay. Especially if this is Dick D'Orsay. He was my great-uncle. I am writing about him. He spent ten years hunting the Valverde Treasure from 1935 - 1945.

 

[freeman]

Yes. I am very interested in anything you can supply regarding D'Orsay. Especially if this is Dick D'Orsay. He was my great-uncle. I am writing about him. He spent ten years hunting the Valverde Treasure from 1935 - 1945.

It's not good news. In the latter half of the 19th century there were a number of metaphoric retellings of a singular, earlier lost treasure legend.

One may call these 'hoax-riddles' in that they are a fabricated story designed to sound real for the unwary but containing some real details (as they author knew them) about the earlier 'lost treasure story'. They all have the common recognition plot detail that some 'real' person left a map/directions to a fabulous treasure on his deathbed. Likewise they all have some blurb that gives some background to explian why you are able to read it now with the promise that it is all real because this has came from X who did Y and you are reading the exact copy he made in the archives or directly from the dying person etc etc.

You find this out though by knowing of all the different versions of the (earlier) story that were in circulation at the time and comparing the 'clues' given in them This reveals they are all giving the same details.

The Treasure of the Llanganatis (or Valverde's Treasure) is one of these. One of the clues was the name Valverde.
Though it was related in the story as being the name of the dying person leaving the directions you were supposed to recognise it as just being the name of Vincent Valverde, the Priest who precipitated the Spanish slaughter of the locals and the capturing of Atahualpa.

In particular the versions cicrulating the Americas (North and South) in the second half of the 19th century had the detail that the treasure was to be found in one of three mountains that were in a triangle.

You'll find the instructional directions for Valverde's Treasure are taken word for word from H Rider Haggard's 'King Solomon's Mines'.

 

[Triangulator]

It's not good news. In the latter half of the 19th century there were a number of metaphoric retellings of a singular, earlier lost treasure legend.

One may call these 'hoax-riddles' in that they are a fabricated story designed to sound real for the unwary but containing some real details (as they author knew them) about the earlier 'lost treasure story'. They all have the common recognition plot detail that some 'real' person left a map/directions to a fabulous treasure on his deathbed. Likewise they all have some blurb that gives some background to explian why you are able to read it now with the promise that it is all real because this has came from X who did Y and you are reading the exact copy he made in the archives or directly from the dying person etc etc.

You find this out though by knowing of all the different versions of the (earlier) story that were in circulation at the time and comparing the 'clues' given in them This reveals they are all giving the same details.

The Treasure of the Llanganatis (or Valverde's Treasure) is one of these. One of the clues was the name Valverde.
Though it was related in the story as being the name of the dying person leaving the directions you were supposed to recognise it as just being the name of Vincent Valverde, the Priest who precipitated the Spanish slaughter of the locals and the capturing of Atahualpa.

In particular the versions cicrulating the Americas (North and South) in the second half of the 19th century had the detail that the treasure was to be found in one of three mountains that were in a triangle.

You'll find the instructional directions for Valverde's Treasure are taken word for word from H Rider Haggard's 'King Solomon's Mines'.


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Freeman,
Thanks for the reference to ‘King Solomon’s Mines.’ I’m going to read it. Regarding my book project; It’s a biography about a man’s obsession. I hope to tap into why he did what did. Whether the treasure is real or not is irrelevant like all “Hero’s Journeys.”

 

[freeman]

Freeman,
Thanks for the reference to ‘King Solomon’s Mines.’ I’m going to read it. Regarding my book project; It’s a biography about a man’s obsession. I hope to tap into why he did what did. Whether the treasure is real or not is irrelevant like all “Hero’s Journeys.”

Good. Thats the way to do it. There is quite a history of those who went to look following various versions. I did a lot of research into it years ago looking into the different expeditions and where they got their info from. You'll find the story started and came from one source only which is one of the tells.

I'll see if I came across the name D'Orsay when I was looking into it as it's been some years now and drop you a line if so. I did have some of the more well known or published history.

Now you know what to look for you don't have to read all of King Solomon's Mines. That is mainly the metaphoric retelling of the earlier legend which will have no further relevancy in regards to what your uncle was doing. The important details for you at present are just in the front of King Solomon's Mines which sets out the details that builds the core plot.

The parts you want to make note of and will recognise as being repeated in Valverde's Treasure are:

* Allan Quatermain has obtained a map to the treasure location left by the dying Jose Silvestre.
Valverde leaves the directions to the treasure location on his deathbed.

*Silvestre's directions says you climb and go around the left mountain called Sheba's Breast,
Valverde leaves the instuction you must climb and go around aound the mountain of "margasitas" as per the glyph (left/counterclockwise).

*The treasure for King Solomon's Mines are at the mountains called the Three Witches.
For Valverde's Treasure it is at the mountains of the Three Cerros Llanganati.

The tip off signal was that the same wording was used in the 'directions' in both stories when giving the unique identifying feature of the 3 mountains where the treasure is located. That is, how they are '......in the form of a triangle' .

(This was to let you know you were just reading another version/variation of the earlier 'secret' lost treasure story that was being packaged up in a different way by the author. You either recognised this and what it meant or for many who didn't realise what was occurring or had ever read King Solomon's Mines, you thought this was real and even might go to look for it.)