Large Clovis Point Please Help!!

[DFrank73]

Does this point look promising to have authenticated or is it a modern reproduction

 

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[DFrank73]

Agate is a type of flint and is chert or quartz. Usually considered as Chalcedony it is still a type of flint, chert, quartz.

Yeah I realized what I said when it was to late I meant it not porous like your more traditional flint

 

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[DFrank73]

Yeah I realized what I said when it was to late I meant it not porous like your more traditional flint

The biface Todd pictured looks more traditional with that dull surface

 

[unclemac]

It wasn't an auction it was at an estate sale in a box of megalodon teeth it was wrapped in an old deteriorating newspaper from the 1958

Mexican in backwoods villages make reproduction high value "Mayan" ceramics, using common stuff old they dug, grinding them up and putting them in the right base clay...evidently it does something to help "authenticate" ageing.

 

[unclemac]

346 clovis listings on ebay right now, this one even has an COA

bottom line, if you didn't find it yourself, it aint real

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[newnan man]

346 clovis listings on ebay right now, this one even has an COA
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Yes, a COA from T&T, Jeff Baker, Insight, or Bannerstone Tom is not worth wiping your a$$ with. That is a fake & not a good one. Every point this seller has posted is a fake. These are the usual COA's you find included with the fake Ebay stuff. These types of people have ruined this hobby.

 

[ToddsPoint]

You can be your own authenticator. All you need is a stereo microscope. I was given a demonstration. Authentic points have tiny mineral deposits. Usually a dozen different types. Newly made points are clean with no deposits. Under magnification it was so obvious it was laughable. A faker can put a patina on a new point, but that’s only one deposit. It would be impossible to put the deposits on it that nature does. I suppose it’s possible that an authentic point could have no deposits. The dozen I looked at were all loaded. This is the type of scope I was using, this is an ad from Amazon. I find my own points in the wild. I don’t buy artifacts. If I did I’d have one of these.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

There are so so many artifact fraudsters, some even go as far as using acid to try to fake patina on artifact reproductions to sell as genuine. People have to look for the red flags if someone is a buyer.

 

[ToddsPoint]

There are so so many artifact fraudsters, some even go as far as using acid to try to fake patina on indian artifacts. People have to look for the red flags if someone is a buyer.

Everything is faked and has been since ancient times. Indian artifacts chipped from flint were pretty much exempt from fraud for quite a while. No one knew how to chip. A few academics took up knapping in the 60s. When it turned into a hobby for amateurs in the early 80s the fraud really blossomed. I credit D.C.Waldorf for single-handedly inventing a new hobby that exploded. There are now thousands of knappers making millions of points. I’m now seeing some very good knapping and material coming from India. They’re even getting in on it.

 

[dognose]

Yes, a COA from T&T, Jeff Baker, Insight, or Bannerstone Tom is not worth wiping your a$$ with. That is a fake & not a good one. Every point this seller has posted is a fake. These types of people have ruined this hobby.

IMO if you must rely on a COA for a relic, don't.

Instead educate yourself more.