Knights Templar Antique Sword

[Joecoins]

I acquired this sword today locally On Prince Edward island from a seller I found on Kijiji. Although the seller said it came from the US.
He said he inherited it from his aunt when he was very young 40+ yrs ago. The aunt had a place in the US full of antiques. Apparently she liked collecting and this likely came to her from an estate sale. The guy I bought it from also never found any info on where/ whos name is written on the sword.
If anyone can please help me figure out the location given and name of owner and any info on both would be much appreciated.
Has the red cross , does this make it a York Rite , knights of the red cross?
Any other cool info I may have missed?

 

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[Joecoins]

I think it says Haverhill Commander. Henry Taylor is what I see.

Awesome great help. Now to research

 

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[Joecoins]

I will refer to it as "masonic knights Templar sword ",York*** Rite. If that is more palatable.

 

[Joecoins]

I think it says Haverhill Commander. Henry Taylor is what I see.

Yes awsome, thanks
I think your on to something

Knights Templar - 14 Haverhill Commandery​

(Massachusetts)

Now if I can find a list of their past commanders...

 

[pepperj]

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I needed help on reading the names and locations.
And getting info on the name and locations.
Some just don't Wana help as asked, They want to give there opinion only on value and desirability. And nomaclature and everyones opinion is biased one way or the other. Wether they realize it or not.
My mind can always change. I consider more possibilities then most.
Please show me proof.
I can show you what these Templar swords are called and sell for on eBay nowadays. But that's not proof. I gave links to some resources that explain the proof I found and got more info aswell supporting my naming of the peice...

There's your proof.
Bottom sword.
Exactly the same, maybe a different inscribed name.
So take the hammer price of $100 ÷2=$50each.
There's a realistic price.
But you're still not going to accept that, and probably tweak it to your own justified ID.

 

[Joecoins]

There's your proof.
Bottom sword.
Exactly the same, maybe a different inscribed name.
So take the hammer price of $100 ÷2=$50each.
There's a realistic price.
But you're still not going to accept that, and probably tweak it to your own justified ID.

Thats not proof it could sell for 10$ at auction or I could pay 10,000 at auction would you call it proof then.
Look what dealers with a reputation sell and call these.
My own justified I'd?
It's just what I called it that bothers you
It's I'd speaks for itself.
What I call it can change..
What it is won't.
You accept it whatever name and value the way you like.
Some people live in a box built by others and dare not venture outside the boundaries.
Your the one whose tweaking things to justify your perception and value of it.
I'm not here to discuss value .
Nor to determine the specific name to use when refering to it.
If it bothers you so much I am sorry

 

[Joecoins]

You had to push value, so darn it I'll push back.

Are Masonic swords worth anything?


Based on this research, many examples of similar like kind and quality 19th century Masonic swords were found in these markets selling for $300 to $700. More detailed and ornate swords can sell in the high-end antique retail market in the $700 to $1,200 range.May 19, 2016

Price has gone up since then..
Plus mine isn't just masonic
It's knights templar

 

[robertk]

Plus mine isn't just masonic
It's knights templar

But is it magic?

 

[Blackfoot58]

As to value: I would not sell mine at all. It was passed down from an Uncle. I would think $100 is a steal on an engraved blade such as yours. I understand you’re looking into the history of the item. I applaud this.
Masonry is oftentimes confusing to the uninitiated. Commandery is York Rite; not Scottish Rite. Those are 2 very different Masonic bodies. Best wishes in you search and forgive me if I’ve muddied the water. It was not my intention.

 

[TORRERO]

IT IS a Masonic "Scottish Rite" ceremonial sword.

Worth on high end $100.

I'll give you $100 for it 🤣

 

[unclemac]

go to eBay, search advanced for "Masonic ceremonial sword"...

71 listings.... none for $1,000... not even close

 

[Joecoins]

go to eBay, search advanced for "Masonic ceremonial sword"...

71 listings.... none for $1,000... not even close

Don't worry I will change that soon enough

 

[Joecoins]

Buy one while you still can, that's my tip

 

[Joecoins]

Found some more info.
Maybe for shure I value these very highly
And there are those who value them very poorly. Maybe it's a conspiracy lol

 

[Joecoins]

As to value: I would not sell mine at all. It was passed down from an Uncle. I would think $100 is a steal on an engraved blade such as yours. I understand you’re looking into the history of the item. I applaud this.
Masonry is oftentimes confusing to the uninitiated. Commandery is York Rite; not Scottish Rite. Those are 2 very different Masonic bodies. Best wishes in you search and forgive me if I’ve muddied the water. It was not my intention.

Thank you very much ,
This is great info.

 

[pepperj]

Thats not proof it could sell for 10$ at auction or I could pay 10,000 at auction would you call it proof then.
Look what dealers with a reputation sell and call these.
My own justified I'd?
It's just what I called it that bothers you
It's I'd speaks for itself.
What I call it can change..
What it is won't.
You accept it whatever name and value the way you like.
Some people live in a box built by others and dare not venture outside the boundaries.
Your the one whose tweaking things to justify your perception and value of it.
I'm not here to discuss value .
Nor to determine the specific name to use when refering to it.
If it bothers you so much I am sorry

I guess I should just wait for The Duck Test to be completed on this one.

 

[TORRERO]

go to eBay, search advanced for "Masonic ceremonial sword"...

71 listings.... none for $1,000... not even close

I'll give you $100 for it 🤣 ................... 😳 😳 😳 Maybe not 😳🤣🤣

 

[Joecoins]

More info

 

[Joecoins]

A guerilla chief, seems he commanded a guerrilla army of about 200. So called bushwackers or jayhawkers.
I found correspondence of him proposing a meeting to surrender his army. And correspondence of him in service? to the union commanding a guerilla force.

 

[Joecoins]

Also found more info on the Haverhill commandery, in 1889. It is reported 188 members.