"Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

rileyboy

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"Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Dear N8,
I read your post about some other CRHer in your area getting boxes that you had ordered and I was indeed sorry to hear that. As I was reading responses to your post, I came across one written by "ScottNVA". He mentioned that on two occassions the same thing had allegedly happened to him. He went on to say that a CRHer "ON THIS FORUM" had taken two of "his boxes" one at a time from a bank and scored a "significant coin find" posting it several times on the forum. He went on to say that it was like "lemon juice in the wound" and to watch out because there are "snakes in the grass." Many of the reponders were upset and wanted to know who or name the person who did that. Well, let me tell you all that I think he was referring to me,.....rileyboy. Yes, I reside in the Washington D.C. area and have met ScottNVA on one or two occassions picking up boxes at a specific BOA bank in the area. We chatted and he seemd like a very nice guy. So all of you reading this know.......there are many CRHers in this area and I have had the pleasure of meeting many of them. We have shared good ideas and have been very helpful to one another, so we don't get stuck with each other's dumps". There are so many banks in our area and it's very hard to know who orders from what banks, so no one ever knows when and if you will be ordering from the same bank and or branch. I, personally do not do a large volume of boxes. I always preferred to ask for customer wrapped rolls and tray finds. I have been CRHing in this area since 2002. I am a collector, not just a silver searcher. Over the years many people have joined the hunt and that's fine. Anyway....to get to the point. One day I went to a bank that I usually ordered two boxes from but hadn't been to in a while and asked if they had any boxes. I know they order many boxes a week for many CRHers and sometimes have a box or two left over. The normal teller wasn't there. The teller I spoke to said they had two boxes "if I wanted them". I realized that I didn't have enough money for both, so I took one box. I never asked them if they were someone else's boxes, I just assumed they wanted to get rid of them. I searched through the box a short time later and found a few keepers. I "dumped" the remainders got my money and decided to return for the other box. They said sure, "take it". So I took it. I had no idea that these boxes were "allegedly..as he states..."his boxes". Please be advised that these boxes usually arrive at this bank on Thursday and this is now Monday afternoon the next week. My guess is that they wanted to get rid of them. It was in this box that I found the 1869-S Seated Liberty that I have shown photos of. I just would like you all to know the facts. I am not a "snake in the grass" nor do I "put lemon juice in the wound" and I am disappointed that ScottNVA would think that. In closing, may I suggest to ScottNVA that perhaps he should pick up his boxes on time or advise them he may be a few days late and ask the head teller to put his name on his boxes.
Mistakes will always happen, but I certainly did not intentionally "swipe" his boxes and I'm disappointed that he didn't talk to me about it personally before posting it on the forum. I have sent him a personal message explaining all this and so far no answer. Now! in view of the aforementioned,
I think it is time that I now say good-bye to all you fine people on this form. I have noticed that in the recent months there is too much negative posting and "jealousy feed backs" that have taken this fine forum to all time lows. I know it's not just my thinking, because so many of the outstanding members (Silvercop, Arkiebassman, Mountainman2, Keverett, Maine-Jim, Scooba-Dave, LJ Timbobwey, Joad, RICH HARTFORD R.I.P.....and so many others) have simply gone off the screen.
I am very sad about that and I miss them.
So long everyone and I wish you all the best of luck. "It's out there for the finding."
rileyboy
C'mon "Riley"...it's over now. Let's go take a walk.
 

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Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

rileyboy, please do not leave the forum! Your contributions are very valuable and are needed to help us all keep things in proper perspective! I always enjoy reading about you and rileyboy's finds and adventures and I will be sad if they cease altogether! Please reconsider - most of the people on this forum are nice people but once in a while there is some negativity - I usually do my best to look past it and not get caught up in it. I do not think you are in the wrong - if a bank teller sells you coins then they are yours, period. No one else can make claim to them. If a teller leaves town and fails to tell another teller covering them the coins are reserved for so and so then that really stinks but sometimes that is just what happens - the person who "lost out" should just double their order for the following week to make up for the missed boxes. :thumbsup:

HH and PLEASE don't go!!! :icon_sunny:

$ilver$urfer :hello:
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

My line of thinking has always been that all boxes are property of the bank until they are 'bought" by the customer. Just because they order me some boxes doesn't mean that I own them. They become mine once I purchase them.

Riley, while I am new here, I will certainly miss you. I always enjoyed reading your posts and comments. I always felt you were a great source of positive energy in this forum. It's too bad that the greed and jealousy of some at times can taint what should be a great and enjoyable hobby. Too bad, you will be missed.
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Hate to see you go- I hope I did not offend you or anyone with my posts. I am sure whomever took my boxes didn't do it on purpose, just like I am sure you did not either. The bad form in my case was bragging to the bank that they found silver, and then forcing the tellers to send out his dump and lug around the bag(they hate doing it, and have asked me to not dump there if possible(mom is the manager, so it wouldn't be out of the question)). Just forcing the bank to pay to order the coin, and then immediately ship it right back from the same branch after bragging about the profits, that was the bad form.

Don't let my post run you off. You have a wealth of knowledge and are a great addition to this forum.
It is out there, and we like reading about you finding it!
Keep hunting(I know you will), but stick around to share in the madness with us all. I for one feel that this hobby doesn't have many more years left as it seems to be growing rather fast and finds are getting less and less.
N8
 

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Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

And you have to stick around! You havent even gotten to know me! Its n8dagR8. Without the R I am nothing!
n8
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Rileyboy, don't leave the forum because of one opinion. I know it has changed alot, but I would hate to see you go.

Please consider taking a break instead of leaving. Wish you the best either way...



"Its out there" Ill miss that. :icon_thumright:
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

N8 -- Personally, I don't think there was anything wrong with your post. The majority of us are courteous people who go out of our way to adhere to proper etiquette (yourself and I included). Anyone you reads the posts on this forum knows that you meant no ill will towards anyone other than the donkey who decided not to adhere to the proper etiquette. It just sucks the Riley of all people was called out (not by you) to be a "snake in the grass." I just wish we all could chill every now and then and realize this should be fun, not a struggle.
 

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Farchaus2k said:
N8 -- Personally, I don't think there was anything wrong with your post. The majority of us are courteous people who go out of our way to adhere to proper etiquette (yourself and I included). Anyone you reads the posts on this forum knows that you meant no ill will towards anyone other than the donkey who decided not to adhere to the proper etiquette. It just sucks the Riley of all people was called out (not by you) to be a "snake in the grass." I just wish we all could chill every now and then and realize this should be fun, not a struggle.
Thank you- I tend to spend too much time on this forum and try to always help out the newbies or anyone who asks those same old questions. Yes, I think it is 'bad form' to call out members on this site specifically. Seems like there are a lot of us hunters in the Northern VA area. We probably all step on one another's areas.

Speaking of which, ive marked about 150 of my dump coins! If someone finds one, holler at me! (I know we have debated marking coins, I only did a few to see if anyone can find em!)
N8
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Hey Riley - people come and go on the forum. It seems to come in waves also. Stick around if you like - life is too short to worry about stuff like that. They offer me a box I buy it. End of discussion! Good find on the seated. If you don't make it back on here good luck in the search. :icon_thumright:

Maine_Jim
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Guys, if coins are at the bank and the teller is willing to sell them to you then they are fair game it does not matter if someone else got them.

If I go to a bank and I ask for halfs and the teller tells me here I have a few boxes that I think some one else ordered them and if that other did not paid for them them in advance then I do not see anything wrong in taking them. In this hobby you have to be consistent, lucky, and savvy.

Coins at a bank belong to who ever buys them first. If teller or bank manager sell them to you the are yours.

This is my personal Dark Side Opinion.

Darth Walker
 

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rileyboy said:
One day I went to a bank that I usually ordered two boxes from but hadn't been to in a while and asked if they had any boxes. I know they order many boxes a week for many CRHers and sometimes have a box or two left over. The normal teller wasn't there. The teller I spoke to said they had two boxes "if I wanted them"

Enough said. You did nothing wrong, in my book

Legend
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Correction:
Guys, if coins are at the bank and the teller is willing to sell them to you then they are fair game it does not matter if someone else ordered them.
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

On this board, like most boards, I would say there are three groups of people. The average joe, of which 80% of us are. The bottom 10% that are just not worth reading (glad it's only 10%) and the 10% that are on the top of the heap.

You my friend are in the top 10% catagory. Go with blessings, my friend. And let me know what you need in 2011- D Quarters, as I never heard back from you on that. ANd even off the board, we'll exchange 2012 coins as we get some in over the next few months.

Keep my email adress. :-) And check in once in a while (that's about all I do now anyways. I haven't posted much lately. For exactly what you said. the board has changed. And some of us have been passed by. I'm okay with it though)

John
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

So this issue now will change CRH. Next Time I go to a bank I will ask the teller:

I will not accept the boxes of halves full or silver unless you:

1.- "Certify in writting that the boxes of halves you are about to give me are not some ones else".
2.- "An Affidavit stating that the person that deposited the coins at the bank knew they were silver"
3.- And ask the teller, "Are you sure Mr. Teller you do not want to keep the coins. They are silver"

Only if all the 1,2,3 of the above are completed I will accept the coins.

Darth Walker
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

I'll say the same as others above. Coins are the property of the bank until you pay for them. It doesn't matter who ordered them. If the bank wants to upset the customer who ordered the coins in the first place, that's their choice.

Returning them back the bank you picked them up from is "usually" bad form, I say usually as I have been told by more than one bank to just bring back the ones I don't want... still won't do it though.

Although I am not one to make a big deal about a couple dollars, the ones that I have a harder time with are when you inquire about buying a particular coin out the tellers try (silver dime/quarter/etc) and they say, "Sorry, I am saving it for customer so and so." Hmmm... I know they didn't already pay for the coin as it is still there and showed up unannounced. It was definitely not ordered or else I would order silver coins at the bank all the time... :) Doesn't happen often, but it has happened more than I would care for. That being said, I have had tellers sell me that very coin saying they usually save them for so and so.

It's all part of the game/hunt we all play. Pick your battles wisely or everybody loses.
 

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Darth Walker said:
So this issue now will change CRH. Next Time I go to a bank I will ask the teller:

I will not accept the boxes of halves full or silver unless you:

1.- "Certify in writting that the boxes of halves you are about to give me are not some ones else".
2.- "An Affidavit stating that the person that deposited the coins at the bank knew they were silver"
3.- And ask the teller, "Are you sure Mr. Teller you do not want to keep the coins. They are silver"

Only if all the 1,2,3 of the above are completed I will accept the coins.

Darth Walker
Don't forget step 4- Ask if they are stolen coins!

I think some of us are taking this too far- My personal opinion is that if you stumble upon a box, and buy it, no HARM no FOUL.

However, those that do not want to do the leg work of ordering boxes, making relationships with tellers, and other things... those are the people that I slightly frown upon. Those people that just call all the local banks until they find boxes and then take them. Find your source, use your sources, make a plan, order boxes. It's so much more than just trying to pluck silver for face value. Most of us love it as a hobby, not as a means to riches. Keep it classy-
MY 2 cents-

Anyone who wants to disagree or argue or be contentious because of this can feel free to private message me.-
I feel as if I am an active and quality member on this forum-
N8
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Rileyboy,

I don't post very often but, try to read this board daily or every other day. I'm usually to busy sorting coins to post much :P. But I must say that I've always enjoyed reading your post and your adventures with Rileyboy always put a smile on my face. I swear, you got on a streak last year and had me convinced you had Rileyboy trained to sniff out the silver!!

Good luck to you and happy hunting

My two cents on box "sniping"

The boxes belong to the bank and not any one individual until you hand over $500. If a bank orders boxes for you and your not able to pick them up when they arrive, have the courtesy to notify the bank that you won't make it in that day. If I miss my pickup and my boxes are gone, shame on me. Remember, it's a hassle for the vault teller to hold the boxes, they have to include those in daily counts.

Agent
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

I think I will be agreeing with you rileyboy, I am gonna dramatically slow my posting of finds down and just comment on others. I have a select group I share my finds with. There are many great people on here, I feel as though most of you wouldn't notice if I went away and I have a theory as to why some of the more seasoned members have up and left. I dearly miss reading ChainChomps posts. He was/is a huge bright spot for this forum and one of the main reasons I joined. I think they grew tired of seeing all the jealousy and hate. None of us are perfect but I do value you and your opinion. This goes for everyone else I call a friend here. All of you are great and I simply can't wait to get on after afew hours and read everyones posts. Sorry if/when I've ever done anything to offend any of you. Believe me I am not trying to garner attention away from anyone else here. If you will have it Riley, I will figuratively being walking right beside you.
 

Re: "Just Bad Form by N8dag8": rileyboy

Rileyboy, I have always liked your post on this forum. I wish you well and someday hope to read your finds again. Till then many Thanks Rileyboy and Take care. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Miner.
 

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