BlackLine
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Why i searched in the north-east range in the supersititon mountains…
Bicknell wrote: 56 miles from Phoenix and some 18 miles south-east of goldfield.
Why he wrote 56 miles? In his second article he wrote more than 50 miles – that makes sense for me. How he came to 56 not 55? I think it is a true first hand clue. (56 miles is the yellow circle)
He wrote 18 miles east of goldfield. Goldfield? He wrote the article in 1894. Goldfield area was discovered 1892. Waltz died 1891. I think this area was named with the discovery of the gold veins. So in 1891 it didn’t have any name. in some stories I read that the Dutchman was often seen in the pub of tortilla flat. Same question – why he wrote 18 miles not 20 or 15? The Dutchman couldn’t give the clue from goldfield, but where does the 18 miles come from? IMO the Dutchman gave the hint 18 miles to mrs. thomas but from his pub and not from goldfield. (18 miles is the purple circle)
In the holmes manuscript he said that he bought new equipment in Superior (picked post). After 15 miles he met the Indians. (15 miles is the green circle) on second day he didn’t go far. (4 miles is the red circle). IMO the mine can’t be in this area, because he discovered it on his 3rd day. What would I do after 2 days alone in the desert? I had no water… what is the fastest way to get out of the desert? I live in phoenix. I know north of me is the salt river. I would go straight north and I would look for a bushy canyon. I would search for some timber and would swim with the flow of the river directly to my home or tortilla flat.
If the 56 miles clue is right then it cant be in the south-east direction, because it contradicts with the holmes manuscript.
I don’t say that this clues are proven, but so I was able to narrow the search. In this area I searched for the two major clues the 3 hills and north-south tending canyon. Then I fit the locator map and some other clues. I flew to Arizona. I went out and found at this spot the marked cactus, the big quartz vein, the quartz hanging wall and the sealed mine. How big was the possibility that I found anything at?
Bicknell wrote: 56 miles from Phoenix and some 18 miles south-east of goldfield.
Why he wrote 56 miles? In his second article he wrote more than 50 miles – that makes sense for me. How he came to 56 not 55? I think it is a true first hand clue. (56 miles is the yellow circle)
He wrote 18 miles east of goldfield. Goldfield? He wrote the article in 1894. Goldfield area was discovered 1892. Waltz died 1891. I think this area was named with the discovery of the gold veins. So in 1891 it didn’t have any name. in some stories I read that the Dutchman was often seen in the pub of tortilla flat. Same question – why he wrote 18 miles not 20 or 15? The Dutchman couldn’t give the clue from goldfield, but where does the 18 miles come from? IMO the Dutchman gave the hint 18 miles to mrs. thomas but from his pub and not from goldfield. (18 miles is the purple circle)
In the holmes manuscript he said that he bought new equipment in Superior (picked post). After 15 miles he met the Indians. (15 miles is the green circle) on second day he didn’t go far. (4 miles is the red circle). IMO the mine can’t be in this area, because he discovered it on his 3rd day. What would I do after 2 days alone in the desert? I had no water… what is the fastest way to get out of the desert? I live in phoenix. I know north of me is the salt river. I would go straight north and I would look for a bushy canyon. I would search for some timber and would swim with the flow of the river directly to my home or tortilla flat.
If the 56 miles clue is right then it cant be in the south-east direction, because it contradicts with the holmes manuscript.
I don’t say that this clues are proven, but so I was able to narrow the search. In this area I searched for the two major clues the 3 hills and north-south tending canyon. Then I fit the locator map and some other clues. I flew to Arizona. I went out and found at this spot the marked cactus, the big quartz vein, the quartz hanging wall and the sealed mine. How big was the possibility that I found anything at?
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waltz worked a mine in the goldfields. only the town was founded in 1892. i think every distance indication make sense with fix points. phoenix, tortilla flat and superior. it also make no sense to count your foot steps and tell it anybody. they will never know which trail you used and have not your foot step length.
so for me it had no weight. 
