intersting item needs id

[leddel]

this was found by a friend at an old cellar hole it appears to be made of stamped brass or brass-alloy i don't have a picture just a link to the picture .any help would be appreciated ,thanks Dan



it is open in the middle like it fits over a small pole or something

 

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[Montana Jim]

I can't see the picture, and am not going to join the site to see it... sorry.

Can't you just copy the pic and post it here?

 

[leddel]

sorry Jim i'm an idiot sometimes

 

[relichunters]

That is called a "finial" it's a decorating item, like for the end of window curtins and stuff.

 

[Montana Jim]

That is called a "finial" it's a decorating item, like for the end of window curtins and stuff.

I agree...

Or some weird & crazy plum holder off an old marching band uniform hat...

 

[ivan salis]

turn the other way so flame is upward

 

[Monty]

A headress for a tiny Myan figurine. Monty

 

[BuckleBoy]

Or some weird & crazy plum holder off an old marching band uniform hat...   

I like this explanation. Or maybe it is from an early militia shako.

I'm with plehbah.  Early militia shako--especially with the inverted flames on the bottom.

I don't have time to look for it now--going out for some Siberian Bottle Diggin today, hopefully...


But I'll do some looking when I get back.

Could we see a photo or two from a different angle?


-Buckles

 

[Iron Patch]

turn the other way so flame is upward

Na, it's just blasting off.

 

[CRUSADER]

turn the other way so flame is upward

that was my thought, I would agree with the hat piece theory, but its a WAG

 

[detector de metales]

could be a finial.. from drapes but also for a flag..

 

[Montana Jim]

Let's see the other side of it...

 

[Kiros32]

Hope you don't mind, I just flipped your photo. I would have to agree with the flames theory.

 

[Montana Jim]

Shako... Plahbah nailed it.

The "flame" piece is torn from the holder and jammed in upside down... I am possitive I see the tear marks...

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well, ya nailed it before I had a chance to look for it. Well done.


Regards,


Buckles

 

[ivan salis]

shako -- by george -- flame downward ---ordanance?

 

[leddel]

just want to say thank you for the help and sorry it took a while for more pictures that you guys asked for . my question is any idea on the age of this piece

 

[tymcmurray]

Nice piece!

 

[Montana Jim]

Shako headgear was common throughout the world during the 18th century and was still in use in the US during the early 1900s. Still rarely used today at a few military school's and of course, common in the "band uniform".

Your piece, I believe, was brazzed together from broken ornamintation, a plume holder and ordanance style symbol, like I pictured above into that upside down flame thing you ended up with.

Your's resembles a CW or Indian War find.

I can't believe it's not crushed flat!

All this is speculation on my part.

 

[leddel]

no my buddy just put it like that (flame upside down ) in the picture because he thought thats how it went , i think it pulled off the the bomb part when he pulled it out of the hole. he is very new to colonial cellar detecting and finding relics ( he's use to park hunting only until i dragged him out , this was only the second time out with me) i told him to hang onto it as i was unsure myself but it looked familar . thanks everyone for taking alook ,Dan