Im going to build an LRL (seriously)

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Art---

If you choose not to use rods with the MFDs, then how do you locate the target?

 

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[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

If you choose not to use rods with the MFDs, then how do you locate the target?

All the old MFD’s require Rods. The first LRL’s used electronics to follow the signal and then someone found that L rods would do the job and were a lot cheaper. I consider that my Ranger Tell is a MFD…It can be used on many many different frequencies and does not require the use of rods…
The funny thing is that we have been told that MFD’s is just a made up term by the manufacturers just so they could steal from consumers…Now the same people want to know how they should make one of these devices…This is really getting very laughable…Art

 

[architecad]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

If you choose not to use rods with the MFDs, then how do you locate the target?

All the old MFD’s require Rods. The first LRL’s used electronics to follow the signal and then someone found that L rods would do the job and were a lot cheaper. I consider that my Ranger Tell is a MFD…It can be used on many many different frequencies and does not require the use of rods…
The funny thing is that we have been told that MFD’s is just a made up term by the manufacturers just so they could steal from consumers…Now the same people want to know how they should make one of these devices…This is really getting very laughable…Art

EE

I told you. All MFD works with L-rods

Arch

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Art---

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude! The Ranger Tell is a rod!

The whole thing swivels!

Just watch this---

http://rangertell.com/

It's a standard dowsing LRL, right?

(I'm just trying to get things straight, before deciding what I might want to build.)

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude! The Ranger Tell is a rod!
The whole thing swivels!
Just watch this---
http://rangertell.com/
It's a standard dowsing LRL, right?
(I'm just trying to get things straight, before deciding what I might want to build.)

I will give you an answer that you may understand


"The door to Knowledge & Understanding, is never open to a closed, or prejudiced mind”

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Art---

How does that help anybody decide which type to build?






Naughty-naughty!

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

~Mike~

What is it you want to build? The function generator? Just go buy one. You skeptics are penny pincher, tight wads --- and that's not the term I wanted to use. The initials are A. R.

Many of the Manufacturers have been Treasure Hunters for years. They will train you how to use the device..why make a device when you can buy one that has already been proven to find treasure…Art

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

fenix---

Your opinion concerning building some type of an LRL is important, so I want to be sure that I understand you right.

Let's see now...you built the one in your avatar...but your opinion is, that everyone else is too stupid to be able to make one...do I have that correct?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

...why make a device when you can buy one...

That seems to be the bent of most of the LRL proponents here, to recommend that people buy one.

One person even sent me a PM with a link to a dealer's site.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

 

[LM]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

What is it you want to build? The function generator? Just go buy one. You skeptics are penny pincher, tight wads --- and that's not the term I wanted to use. The initials are A. R.

It has nothing to do with 'pinching pennies' but rather proving or disproving whether or not there is any valid, functional science behind long range locating.

I must admit, for a bunch of people who insist that this is a credible practice the LRL proponents have failed MISERABLY at stepping up here and outlining how a LRL is made.

Why is it that the Skeptics are more knowledgeable about electronic devices than the people who insist they work?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

EE

I told you. All MFD works with L-rods

Arch

So there are two types, one uses dowsing rods (MFD), and the other is a dowsing rod (LRL).




But what if I want to build a machine that does the locating all by itself, and I don't want to learn how to dowse?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Oh, yeah, I forgot about OKMs Alpha units.

Here's how they work: "The bio-energy system interacts with the bio energy of your own body during the localization of gold and silver objects to observe minimum changes of object substances...."

Since that is a wordy non-explanation, there is no way to try and build one of whatever these things are.

But they also have this mode: "...the ionization system is a method to measure the ions radiation (ions absorbance). Therefore a metal-ion reaction chamber is integrated in...."

The problem with that is "ion chambers" are radiation detectors, not ion detectors. Ions are not radiation. Ions are ions. Ion chambers measure ions which are formed inside the chamber, they do not indicate how many ions enter the chamber.

So, it looks like neither of these features can be built. The first because there is no technical explanation of how it works. The second because the component they are using (ion chamber) simply does not do what they claim it does. So there is no reason to build that.

But at least it's not a dowsing unit!

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

And there is no listing in the search engines for the "fighter" or the "gold gun," which were mentioned above, as being non-dowsing units. So there is no way to know exactly what they are.

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Well, mike, your first post in this topic contained no data, and was only an insult.

And I see you are still up to the same thing.

Then you actually wonder why people are skeptical?

 

[architecad]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

EE

I told you. All MFD works with L-rods

Arch

So there are two types, one uses dowsing rods (MFD), and the other is a dowsing rod (LRL).




But what if I want to build a machine that does the locating all by itself, and I don't want to learn how to dowse?

Still it isn't invented, so far I know. MFD need a L-rod to operate. LRL use a sort of L-rod to operate. The day somebody invent a piece of electronic that re-place those L-rod or dowsing components, I will let you know, unless you use a Dog to trace gold.

Arch.

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

I took a Radio Shack book, found a signal gen. print and made it. I changed the range of the pot. to have better control of the freq.

I'm not saying anybody is too stupid to build one of these. Very simple design. As you found out some can be very complicated.
Some are too LAZY.

Here's my take on the "ion" thing. Since everything decays at a certain rate, a "signature" is created by this decomposition. Be it ions or cat fur or whatever it is called, that is what is being looked for.

If I was you, I would look for a battery powered signal gen. and make some rods. You will need a test meter that reads freq. if it doesn't have a counter on it. You may can find one and take the 110v out and power it with a battery since it converts ac anyway.

Here's what I know about the calculator thing. Put the wrong numbers in and you get nothing. Hit the right sequence, and you do. That sounds nothing like my dowsing rods. You decide for your self. I have several amigos here that have made their own by coiling copper wire (like 12 ga) gluing it to a scientific calc. and glued it to a rod with a handle. How does it work
Beats the shit out of me, makes no sense at all. But it does. ( for me and them at least)

 

[architecad]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

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SWR

Can you tell what is it all about?

Arch

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

It looks like just a VLF (Very Low Frequency) receiver, to me.

It might pick up submarine communications, and emissions from CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) monitors and TVs, or anything else in that frequency range, and also detect ionospheric disturbance events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlf

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

HI EE my coffee drinking friend small thingie, can you tell me what the ferrite antanae is tuned for?

However, more important, dig up a diagram of my presently defunct Geiger counter "Cricket" 60. (Tri -Met Instruments Ltd)

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

RDT---

The frequencies are listed on the lower right side of the page. (It looks European, because they use the comma for a decimal point.)

The three frequencies are selected by the three position switch on the left end of the schematic.




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