Im going to build an LRL (seriously)

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PuffDaddy said:
fenixdigger said:
Puff, these guys are all talk. Likely never seen a gold coin out of a pack, much less had one. To miss the feel, the SMELL, the coolness of
gold coins, the warmth when they lay in the sun for a while, well, you know. When I see one of them post in this thread, I get a big smile as I know it ain't gonna happen. Guess I'll get back to it. Thanks for the info.
Fenix
It's been a barrel of laughs--but,it's a waste of time to discuss leading edge science,unless that person is actually engaged mentally. All they want to do,is bite your ankles. I'm sure you've heard about the wildcat,and the wet noodle. They are the wildcat--and LRL phenomena,is the wet noodle.
Once it has been perfected;and it's parameters established--they'll be slinking in through the back door,hoping not to be noticed;back-pedalling for all they're worth. They will erase all of their posts,post-haste. It's always been that way,and it'll always be that way.
One admission posted by Carl,would send them scurrying like rats to their sancturaries. Then I'd have to put up with them slobbering all over me. Muzzling up to me for the technology. Finding a ten ounce gold bar at ten feet,is unbelievably easy for myself,or Robert to do. I can find a 24K wedding band,at twenty feet,all day long,and never miss. I can find a silver quarter at fourty feet. What's weighing on me,is whether I want to prove what I have--and truely share it with the mob.

David

PuffDaddy, you're talking like Fenix, and that ain't a promising sign, it's a "read the advertisement" sort of thing. If you already know where something is or your buddies are tossing you clues, finding it shouldn't be difficult. And finding a shallow silver quarter at forty feet? From ground zero and a full 360 degrees, that's a little over 1,000 square feet. If you know that a shallow silver quarter is what you're looking for, that's perhaps 15 minutes with a metal detector. That's why LRL'ers buy metal detectors -- even Archie!. No having to map out all of Fenix's or whoever's 100 ghost signals first without the coin and then needing to have it buried fresh. Some treasure hunters, what eh?

My offer to bury a gold coin for you (or anyone) to find and walk away with is for people who sound like they believe they can do it. I don't want to prove an LRL doesn't work, that adds nothing to knowledge, we already know they don't work. I want to lose that ounce of gold to an LRL that works.

--Toto
 

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David;
It's your call but think about this. USUALLY you can determine the dishonesty of a person when they show anger and are insulting.

What we got here is Dillinger and Capone. (And baby face Nelson now)

They are in the scheme so deep and hard, they have lost all sense of purpose.

If you do this, watch yourself, no telling how far they will go to protect their precious delusion and steal the info.
 

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Yes, I had thought of taking their challenge also,but after second thoughts, I decided it wasn't what I wanted to do. I think you know their game as well as I do. They are searching for answers that they need to capitolize on the technology. Why else would anyone offer a large prize just to see someone find their gold? Some of the anwsers here are illogical,some have said that if someone had such a technology,why would they sell them to the public? If you had a metal detector which was far better than anything on the market,would you keep it to yourself,or patent and sell it to the masses? You would make more money by producing it and selling it to the masses. Why? Because you can't hunt the whole world with it. There are not enough hours,days or years to do so. Sure you could clean out your own neighborhood and maybe several others,but what about all of the US, or world. It just makes more sense to produce it and sell it than to keep it to yourself. rockhound
 

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sq. mi. WORLD 148,647,000 You are correct rockhound…It is you decision on how you want to use a LRL…If my hobby was not enjoyable I would find something that was…Art
 

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You are absolutely correct Puffdaddy,I have done experiments where I influenced the rods someone else was holding,to make them move. If I can cause someone else's rods to move,how easy is it to influence mine? I have to be careful when I am dowsing not to influence the rods. Sometimes it is harder than you think. I still do dowses occassionally for people,mostly map dowses,and I like to dowse,but I don't do as much anymore. I stay in tune with my conscienousness even though I don't use it as much as I used to. I don't use rods to map dowse with. I use a specially designed pendulum,made expressly for map dowsing. I have taught some to dowse and map dowse. I have also taught all of my nephews to play the guitar and mandolin,my nieces to play the keyboard(piano). There is a correlation between dowsing and music that many people can't comprehend. All living things respond either positively or negatively to different types of music,plants,animals and humans. Also metals respond to different wave lenghts of music to varying degrees. Whether or not you choose to take the challenge is your choice,and not one of us will think anything toward you either way. Each person must make up their own mind whether or not it is in their best interest,as for me I chose not to.Good Luck. rockhound
 

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SWR said:

It's an advertisement for the latest Randi seminar....
 

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You both are correct..The Ideomotor response is a fact of life…Science has found that it can be controlled. I do my own double blind test to make sure that I still have control if it..Like you rockhound I am a physical dowser not a mental dowser..I use a lrl because it will give more information about the target than Dowsing…I feel sorry for the ones who do not understand the uses of the Ideomotor responces…Art
 

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Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Fluffduddy---

If you are afraid of the metal detector people stealing your "top secret," then just do a simple random double-blind test with your local college science department. It will be a good example of testing for the students, and they don't care about what your "top secret" is.

Have them document the test and results, and poste it here.

That solves your problems with the "skeptics," and you won't be bothered by us anymore, and you can have peace in your World.

Let us know when it is scheduled, and when we can expect to see the results posted.

Life can be very simple, you know.

:sign13:
 

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SWR said:
EddieR said:
SWR said:

It's an advertisement for the latest Randi seminar....

awww, a pro-fraudster attempting a humorous moment.

Isn't that special :icon_flower:

Pro-fraudster? Me??? I'm sorry, no, that's the ones who do support Randi.
 

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EddieR said:
SWR said:
EddieR said:
SWR said:

It's an advertisement for the latest Randi seminar....


We have seen lots of claims by the LRL promoters that Randi's test is a fraud, but strangely, they have never posted any documentation which shows that. Just excuses, like their LRL claims.

:sign13:

awww, a pro-fraudster attempting a humorous moment.

Isn't that special :icon_flower:

Pro-fraudster? Me??? I'm sorry, no, that's the ones who do support Randi.
 

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~SWR~
Yes, pro-fraudster... you.
Your posts reflect your pro-stance for supporting fraudulent devices. Trying to "turn it around" is simply your childish antics of mimicking Pee Wee Herman.
Thank you SWR for your insults..Art
 

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PuffDaddy said:
SWR said:
PuffDaddy said:
The person in your mirror...! He's the one who betrayed you...! You should sock him in the belly...but don't break the mirror,in the process. Put on some boxing gloves...!

I see. In lieu of validating your claim, or supporting your "point of view"... you will continue spurting utter-nonsensical comments and rhetorical blurts.

Actually... that is a typical trait of con-men who are cornered.

Ya ever hear of the "Rope-A-Dope...? I learned it from the "Greatest",Muhammad Ali...!



The purpos of the LRL section is to discuss LRLs.

You don't want to discuss your top secret LRL, and you admit that the others are frauds, so what does that leave you to discuss?

Your unsubstantiated claims about what your "top secret" device supposedly will do are meaningless. Do you actually expect anyone to just take your word for it? Are you trying to get people to PM you, in order to purchase one of your "top secret" fantasies?

If you want bragging rights, then wait until after you have passed Carl's test.

Hint: This isn't the rope a dope section. Try Comedy Central.

:sign13:
 

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That's right Eel. Some times when recounting some of the Sparky's (Elec. Eng,) posts, we laugh till we cry. Some of the more blatantly obtuse ones get play for hours while we hunt. Really lightens up the day. Wilson does a great imitation of SWR.

Remember, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.

This post not intended to insult any reader, even the ones that do it themselves or promote fraudulent tests.
 

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I wanted to go with something that was familiar to him, something he had been called his whole life, but I don't think Marc will go

with Sxxt - for- brains.
 

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SWR said:
PuffDaddy said:
The person in your mirror...! He's the one who betrayed you...! You should sock him in the belly...but don't break the mirror,in the process. Put on some boxing gloves...!

I see. In lieu of validating your claim, or supporting your "point of view"... you will continue spurting utter-nonsensical comments and rhetorical blurts.

Actually... that is a typical trait of con-men who are cornered.

Hmmm.....kinda like when you posted that I was mimicking Pee Wee Herman? Notice that I didn't refer to you or about you when I jokingly posted about the Randi seminar. But, as usual, ya gotta jump in and defend him.....and calling me names in the process. Talk about a fraudster....Randi tells everybody to use common sense in life,.....then begs for donations from them. :laughing9:

What a riot.

How much have you sent him, SWR? :tongue3:
 

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SWR said:
EddieR said:
SWR said:
PuffDaddy said:
The person in your mirror...! He's the one who betrayed you...! You should sock him in the belly...but don't break the mirror,in the process. Put on some boxing gloves...!

I see. In lieu of validating your claim, or supporting your "point of view"... you will continue spurting utter-nonsensical comments and rhetorical blurts.

Actually... that is a typical trait of con-men who are cornered.

Hmmm.....kinda like when you posted that I was mimicking Pee Wee Herman? Notice that I didn't refer to you or about you when I jokingly posted about the Randi seminar. But, as usual, ya gotta jump in and defend him.....and calling me names in the process. Talk about a fraudster....Randi tells everybody to use common sense in life,.....then begs for donations from them. :laughing9:

What a riot.

How much have you sent him, SWR? :tongue3:

This don't even make sense. Typical of those pro-fraudsters to rant/rave when James Randi's name is mentioned. Fear makes them do foolish things.

As usual... Eddie has to bring things into the discussion to highlight their displeasure for the person responsible for exposing their fraudulent "Paranormal Instigator" shenanigans and chicanery.

Good job, James Randi. Make these "Paranormal Investigator" pigs squirm.

Added later: After a careful review... there was no "name calling". Evidently, Eddie thinks they can inject asinine humor/insults into a discussion/conversation without retaliation or retribution. That would be a serious case of dishing it out... but can't take it.

Your reviewing skills are terrible!!! You called me a pro-fraudster in your post, a reply to mine. Does it take a hammer to the head to see the name you called me????????? Geez.....what do they teach in those EE classes, anyway?

No paranormal investigator (that I know of) "squirms" when Randi's name is mentioned. Shakes of the head, eyes rolling, yes, but no one is afraid of him. We pity him, and those like him because we see him as he really is. Of course...that pity has turned to disdain over the years because of his .......hobby.

Why should anyone fear him? He cannot do anything to anyone. He is just a guy on a serious power trip...unable to accept that there are people who believe (and know) differently than him. If they won't agree with him, then he just calls them names and tries to publicly humiliate them....just like you guys do. And thing is (this will probably break your heart)...he isn't that well known in the paranormal field in the first place. Sure, his name pops up, but if it doesn't relate to us personally (investigators) or our investigations, we go on with life, as he or his frauds do not affect us. There is a lesson right there for you to learn. Are you man enough to learn it?
 

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fenixdigger said:
That's right Eel. Some times when recounting some of the Sparky's (Elec. Eng,) posts, we laugh till we cry. Some of the more blatantly obtuse ones get play for hours while we hunt. Really lightens up the day. Wilson does a great imitation of SWR.

Remember, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.

This post not intended to insult any reader, even the ones that do it themselves or promote fraudulent tests.


fleanix---

I see that you have blatently abandoned any regard for relating to the topic, and have gone full bore into nonsense insults. I'm seriously wondering if you actually think that your "not insulting..." is impressing anybody.

Aren't you the one that was whining about too many insults on the LRL board a while ago? Or was that another one of you?

:sign13:
 

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EddieR said:
SWR said:
PuffDaddy said:
The person in your mirror...! He's the one who betrayed you...! You should sock him in the belly...but don't break the mirror,in the process. Put on some boxing gloves...!

I see. In lieu of validating your claim, or supporting your "point of view"... you will continue spurting utter-nonsensical comments and rhetorical blurts.

Actually... that is a typical trait of con-men who are cornered.

Hmmm.....kinda like when you posted that I was mimicking Pee Wee Herman? Notice that I didn't refer to you or about you when I jokingly posted about the Randi seminar. But, as usual, ya gotta jump in and defend him.....and calling me names in the process. Talk about a fraudster....Randi tells everybody to use common sense in life,.....then begs for donations from them. :laughing9:

What a riot.

How much have you sent him, SWR? :tongue3:


Randi's ethics, whether they are one way or another, have nothing to with the fact that LRLs are a hoax. The only reason you LRL promoters try to talk about "people," whoever they may be, is to divert attention away from the posts which point out that your phony devices really don't work at all.

The more you talk about people, instead of provable data about LRLs, the more evident it is that they simply don't work.

You are your own best "skeptic."

So thanks for that.

:laughing7:
 

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~SWR~
absolutely!!

and now, pro-fraudster is "name calling" by those who support the devices that have been exposed as fraudulent devices. go figure.
http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/background/nicholls.html
A Self-Confessed Liar
To be fair, he has never claimed to be anything other than a showman, best expressed by his own remark,
'I am a charlatan, a liar, a thief and a fake altogether.'
However, those he has maligned find it less amusing and persistent rumours of forthcoming libel cases would seem to be entirely justified. Perhaps more importantly still, the mischief caused by his unsupported explanations can be profound; the effect is to cloud the issues as his 'debunkings' become part of the public lore. It is thus particularly unfortunate that so many top-ranking scientists, desperate to ignore evidence to the extent that they will believe almost anyone who opposes the paranormal, still appear to take his views seriously, quoting his research as if it were really credible.
 

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