If its not a button what is it?

[RelicDude]

I found this at cellar hole I've been hunting in southern mass in the Berkshire region. At first I thought it was a button but it's not. It has has an r isignia on it could it be military? This item has got me stumped and curious to know how old it is the only object that could date the area is an 1847 large cent my friend found. Any help would be awesome-relic dude

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Cry Of The Eagle: History And Legends Of The Cherokee Indians And Their Buried Treasure - Grab it through Amazon!

[bigfoot1]

looks like a leather monogram rivet.1st guess...2nd would be cufflink button

 

[HutSiteDigger]

It looks like it resembles a Confederate Riflemans button like in the photo and the other photo is a "possible" Civil War "A" artillery rivet Just like the one you dug! Most of these type of rivet buttons have been found in Confederate sites and are questionable if they are Civil War or Post Civil War.

It attached more of less too like a cuff-link, knapsack,leather strap or something in that nature (Military maybe?)! It appears very old maybe mid 19th-late 19th century? Can't say for sure if this is representing Riflemans or not but it sure looks like it could be.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Also was this found in a Civil War area where lot of other Confederate or Union relics were found?

 

[RelicDude]

Wow thanks if that is what it's is that would be amazing and it's really far from its home

 

[RelicDude]

Not that I know of but in the same area about a mile away I found a Connecticut national gaurd button from that era

 

[RelicDude]

It was found in massachusetts

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Seeing you are from CT. If this was something that was dug in the Southern States or near a Civil War area I would be almost certain this could be Confederate relic! I do not know the history of the area you found this in if there was Civil War related stuff going on in that area or not! Even being that far North there is still always a slight possibility this could be a Civil War related artifact! IF I had too throw down $20 on it saying if it was or wasnt Civil War . I would bet that it is not Civil War related due to the area you found it in! However whats not too say you found this near the water or perhaps sometime during or after the war a Confederate had too make his way up North to CT for some "who knows" reason. There have been Confederate artifacts found as far as Canada! so you never know.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Ok we were typing @ the same time. Thanks for the Massachusetts part. Being Massachusetts anything is possible really!

 

[RelicDude]

Thank you it interesting nonetheless civilwar items are seldom found in the area but anything is possible some one in our club found a north carolina militia button about a month ago beats me how it got there.

 

[bigfoot1]

I guess its like the clad quarter syndrome.We have prolly all found a cld quarter out in bum $%^& egypt.makes no sense...yet there it is.I am hoping it is cw for you...sure is interesting either way...

 

[creskol]

Seeing you are from CT. If this was something that was dug in the Southern States or near a Civil War area I would be almost certain this could be Confederate relic! I do not know the history of the area you found this in if there was Civil War related stuff going on in that area or not! Even being that far North there is still always a slight possibility this could be a Civil War related artifact! IF I had too throw down $20 on it saying if it was or wasnt Civil War . I would bet that it is not Civil War related due to the area you found it in! However whats not too say you found this near the water or perhaps sometime during or after the war a Confederate had too make his way up North to CT for some "who knows" reason. There have been Confederate artifacts found as far as Canada! so you never know.

Why is it that anything found within a 100 mile radius of a Civil War Camp, that is not immediately identifiable, is automatically showered with the Confederate brouhaha? Why is it automatically Civil War? Why throw that speculation into the equation at all if you don't know. Reminds me of the harmonica reeds found in Civil War camps that are automatically Civil War harmonicas .. possible I guess, but the probability is near zero. I found a Carling Black Label can in the very bottom of a hut one time, but that doesn't mean that it's Confederate or Civil War related.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Why is it that anything found within a 100 mile radius of a Civil War Camp, that is not immediately identifiable, is automatically showered with the Confederate brouhaha? Why is it automatically Civil War? Why throw that speculation into the equation at all if you don't know. Reminds me of the harmonica reeds found in Civil War camps that are automatically Civil War harmonicas .. possible I guess, but the probability is near zero. I found a Carling Black Label can in the very bottom of a hut one time, but that doesn't mean that it's Confederate or Civil War related.

Im just highlighting the point that these same type of rivet cuff-links have been found in Confederate sites (camps) or near Civil War battlefields and it seems know one can place these as being Civil War or not at least too my knowledge, like the one in the photo of the "A" cuff-link. I already stated I do not think this is Civil War but i am just trying too give RelicDude alittle insight on these!

 

[RelicDude]

It would be really neat if it was you never know I'm looking at 19th century census's to see if it a monagram for one of the family's there.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

people on here are just guessing as to what these items posted on TN are. sometimes there accurate and some times there not. Thats why people post on the "what is it" forum. Its just a fun place to look at interesting items that people arent sure of and to give it your best shot. Lets not get serious about this. Hutsitedigger was giving what he knows. People who post pics here take what they need and continue to research on their own. This place helps them at least get started in some type of direction. So let people guess and stop downing!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Isnt it a collar button? The photo is from my Sears Roebuck & Co. 1909 mail order catalog. On the ring page, they advertise that "We supply any initial" and "Emblems at the same price as quoted for initials" but it does not say that on the collar button stud page, but I wonder.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

people on here are just guessing as to what these items posted on TN are. sometimes there accurate and some times there not. Thats why people post on the "what is it" forum. Its just a fun place to look at interesting items that people arent sure of and to give it your best shot. Lets not get serious about this. Hutsitedigger was giving what he knows. People who post pics here take what they need and continue to research on their own. This place helps them at least get started in some type of direction. So let people guess and stop downing!

True and I dont know if it is or isnt and it does seem to match the riflemans but we need to be careful before making Confederate claims. Putting the Confederate tag on it makes it valuable and too many sites do it. We at TN are better than that.

 

[kuger]

people on here are just guessing as to what these items posted on TN are. sometimes there accurate and some times there not. Thats why people post on the "what is it" forum. Its just a fun place to look at interesting items that people arent sure of and to give it your best shot. Lets not get serious about this. Hutsitedigger was giving what he knows. People who post pics here take what they need and continue to research on their own. This place helps them at least get started in some type of direction. So let people guess and stop downing!

....I have to say.....some on here arent merely "guessing",and do actually take things serious.Sure everybody mis-ide's something now and then,but do you honestly think that the folks that consistently ,and accuratly id objects just throw chit at the wall and see what sticks?A whole lot of research goes into many of the given ID's on here........so its not just a "fun game".Do you think that Cannonballguy is guessing?It does get VERY old when a certain few pipe up all the time with the same ole song and dance.I have discussed this very subject before.Its as if the whole world started and ended around the C.W.,nothing else was going on before during or after.

 

[RelicDude]

Isnt it a collar button? The photo is from my Sears Roebuck & Co. 1909 mail order catalogue. On the ring page, they advertise that "We supply any initial" and "Emblems at the same price as quoted for initials" but it does not say that on the collar button stud page but I wonder. My book is not complete.

Hmm you might be on to something here would these have a back mark at all? because this doesn't.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Hmm you might be on to something here would these have a back mark at all? because this doesn't.

Im sorry my book is a revised edition and not complete. I cannot see the backsides in the catalog and I dont know if they were marked gold filled. The point is that jewelry could be ordered from Sears with any intial and apparently very popular.

Here is a crop of the initial ring page. Several varieties of the R are represented but not a match.




As far as it being CW, I have no idea. I just think it may be a collar stud (collar button) as opposed to a rivet.