Forrest Fenn s treasure

[okie-carbine]

Good opinion Joe. It's not the armchair crowd that I was thinking about. It's the false hope injected into the new hunters. Oh, I have fallen victim to a few false tales and as I look back I think of all the time I could have used to enjoy a more fruitful adventure. Your lucky if you find 1 in 10 without the false tales.
Look at the Lost Dutchman. People have died looking for that one and I believe the source of the gold exists.
Look at the Beale Cache. I think that exists, but will never be found. The key to the location code might be some obscure out of date book that was more popular back then. I try to help the new guys in spite of themselves as you can see on post# 729. I like your type of inquiry. Have a good evening. Frank...

you know, i came here and signed up just because of the forrest fenn treasure. after i read through the entire thread, i got a real bad vibe from you. you haven't said one positive thing in this whole thread. you just want to rain on everybody's parade. i don't see that as trying to help anybody.

 

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[okie-carbine]

getting back on track...

i am going with yellowstone. there are warm waters, brown trout, its cold and in the woods.

 

[marke17026]

Guys, he's made it very clear that it's in a place safe enough where children can go.

 

[marke17026]

By the way, Forrest Fenn knows better than to hide it on Government/Federal property.

 

[The Danno]

Okie, After reading the book, I think the dam at Hebgen lake would be the ideal starting point. But I found warm waters, brown trout, cold, and all that other happy stuff in New Mexico last week. There are a bunch of scenarios that fit.

 

[WIDirtFishing]

By the way, Forrest Fenn knows better than to hide it on Government/Federal property.

Ya know i think it is on federal land. He has said, when asked if he thought about the legalities of someone finding it and he said something along the lines of "whoever owns the land is owner of the treasure." Then went onto say later that he was a tax payer and owned federal land just as much as anyone else. Even went as far as saying he isnt opposed for himself or someone else taking concrete from Ground Zero 9/11 memorial, since its federal property and he owns the federal government.
I believe it was the Daily something... He gave the interview to. Shoot, i cant for the life of me remember the publication.
Anywho, a man like Fenn, I think, wouldnt give two sh**s bout federal land. He owns them haha

 

[cw0909]

Okie, After reading the book, I think the dam at Hebgen lake would be the ideal starting point. But I found warm waters, brown trout, cold, and all that other happy stuff in New Mexico last week. There are a bunch of scenarios that fit.

i think FF was counting on the fact, that a lot of scenarios/places fit

 

[The Danno]

i think FF was counting on the fact, that a lot of scenarios/places fit

Oh no doubt, but to me that's what makes the puzzle that much more intriguing.

 

[RCH]

By the way, Forrest Fenn knows better than to hide it on Government/Federal property.

Is this really an issue? Based on what I can tell (given, I'm no lawyer), if Forrest placed this on Federal land and left it, it gets classified as abandoned property. By law, the government cannot take ownership of abandoned property until they try to find the legal owner or heir. Forrest even states in the poem that he gives you title to the treasure, which makes you the legal owner/heir. Any thoughts from lawyers out there?

As a side note, this seems to make sense since Forrest has stated the he expects the finder to go public. It would kinda suck to find the treasure and have the goverment simply take it away. Forrest must know this.

 

[The Danno]

It has been stated before that so long as it is not buried it is within legal limits. But I suppose that also depends upon your definition and willingness to abide. Forrest is known for his loose personal interpretation of the law.

 

[The Danno]

Frankenstein, I'm not even going to waste my time pushing the extra 3 buttons to quote you... You're dismissing several other clues and informational notes. Notes such as: it's in the Rocky mountains. Sure if your guy said a red square then yeah, fine. But if the same guy said it was a red square in the Rocky mountains that only makes it a complex puzzle not an impossible puzzle. I'm sorry you have to be the guy that throws his hands in the air and quits when things get complicated. It's easy to say it's not there, but prove it. The only thing you have is your worthless opinion. And yeah forums are to discuss opinions on topics, but this thread was created to discuss ideas and theories about finding the treasure. Going back to my last post, why don't you make a thread called I don't believe in your treasure. Why are you on treasure net anyway if you are so pessimistic, armchair champion? Rhetorical question no body cares.

 

[The Danno]

Frank... sorry I finally read the rest of what you had to say... yeah you've been here longer than me woopity do. And sure maybe you have found a cache or 2 or 10. Heck 1000. It's not important. I begrudge your opinion because it has little merit with the cache in question. You called another man a liar before I called one of you.

Respect is earned with me. Never given.

 

[johnzalez]

Okie, After reading the book, I think the dam at Hebgen lake would be the ideal starting point. But I found warm waters, brown trout, cold, and all that other happy stuff in New Mexico last week. There are a bunch of scenarios that fit.

We spent 8 days scouring that area. The clues seemed to match up perfectly. Needless to say we came up empty handed. We met three other parties looking in the same area, and found out later that MANY more had already searched that area. Wish we would have known that before we went. You're welcome to go check it out, but as for me, I'm 99.9% sure that it's not there.

We've also checked out 3 other very promising spots in northern NM. It was fun at first but honestly its starting to get a little old.

If you go to Dals blog and start reading the older posts & comments from 2011, working your way up to the more recent ones, you may come to the same conclusion as me: any solutions to the clues you can come up with in New Mexico (and probably Yellowstone too) have already been thought of and investigated... usually by many people, many times. Man, I sound like a downer, but after spending much time and money investigating this treasure, I'm coming to believe that it's a lost cause-- at least for me. If it does exist, and I think it does (or did), I believe the finders will be local. It will be the folks who have been going out weekly for years. Those of us who are out of state, using google maps as our main tool, waiting to take a vacation in the summer, have the chips stacked against us.

Then again, I may be wrong. It's been known to happen. Besides, there are worse ways of spending your vacation than stomping around the woods/mountains of NM/YNP.

 

[The Danno]

We spent 8 days scouring that area. The clues seemed to match up perfectly. Needless to say we came up empty handed. We met three other parties looking in the same area, and found out later that MANY more had already searched that area. Wish we would have known that before we went. You're welcome to go check it out, but as for me, I'm 99.9% sure that it's not there.

If you go to Dals blog and start reading the older posts & comments from 2011, working your way up to the more recent ones, you may come to the same conclusion as me: any solutions to the clues you can come up with in New Mexico (and probably Yellowstone too) have already been thought of and investigated... usually by many people, many times. Man, I sound like a downer, but after spending much time and money investigating this treasure, I'm coming to believe that it's a lost cause-- at least for me. If it does exist, and I think it does (or did), I believe the finders will be local. It will be the folks who have been going out weekly for years. Those of us who are out of state, using google maps as our main tool, waiting to take a vacation in the summer, have the chips stacked against us.

Then again, I may be wrong. It's been known to happen. Besides, there are worse ways of spending your vacation than stomping around the woods/mountains of NM/YNP.

See now that makes more significant impact than just jumping on here and telling the kids there's no Christmas. I appreciate your information and will give it thorough review. But you never know someone could've stumbled upon it years ago and just never heard the story. But the Marine side of me makes me take the hard road. Thank you for the information nonetheless. I will check it out for sure.

 

[themarkd]

Is this really an issue? Based on what I can tell (given, I'm no lawyer), if Forrest placed this on Federal land and left it, it gets classified as abandoned property. By law, the government cannot take ownership of abandoned property until they try to find the legal owner or heir. Forrest even states in the poem that he gives you title to the treasure, which makes you the legal owner/heir. Any thoughts from lawyers out there?

As a side note, this seems to make sense since Forrest has stated the he expects the finder to go public. It would kinda suck to find the treasure and have the goverment simply take it away. Forrest must know this.

I like this. A lot.

 

[okie-carbine]

See now that makes more significant impact than just jumping on here and telling the kids there's no Christmas. I appreciate your information and will give it thorough review. But you never know someone could've stumbled upon it years ago and just never heard the story. But the Marine side of me makes me take the hard road. Thank you for the information nonetheless. I will check it out for sure.

forrest has said recently (within the past month) that the chest is still there. now, how he knows this, is beyond me. maybe he has a few game cams set up in the area. this would also explain how he knows people have come within such-and-such yards of finding it. and for those of you who don't know, they make game cams now that send the images back to your computer for remote viewing.

 

[okie-carbine]

i am pretty sure that i would not go public with the find. i wouldn't want to take any chances messing with the bureaucratic system with a find like this. i would like to visit with mr fenn though and give him back the bracelet.

i am betting that it is on federal land; since he wants people to get out with their kids and go looking. its not too easy to do that on private land.

 

[The Danno]

forrest has said recently (within the past month) that the chest is still there. now, how he knows this, is beyond me. maybe he has a few game cams set up in the area. this would also explain how he knows people have come within such-and-such yards of finding it. and for those of you who don't know, they make game cams now that send the images back to your computer for remote viewing.

I want a game cam!

 

[The Danno]

Guys, here are the tree carvings I found. Not wuite sure what to make of all the symbols. Honestly it could be anything. But to me it was noteworthy that these are older carvings, and Forrest liked to put frogs and things into the bells he cast. So... Here they are, sorry a couple days late as my fiance kept forgetting to bring the camera.


This one is the frog and bull. I didn't quite catch the bull significance, but there is a high likelyhood that Forrest didn't even do it. I just know how much he likes frogs.



The signiture F



This is an arrow that appears to be pointing behind a bird or something. Watch for falling bird droppings, I am really not sure.



This is a poor attempt at an F. most likely nothing.


This one looks like a leaning cactus or something, below it reads the letters AZ so it is most likely nothing, but it was strange and I took a pic.

Your thoughts?

 

[cw0909]

not sure about the other carvings ,bull and frog is bullfrog